Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65
alexey yes, i understand the thinking, re JT-9 / JT-65; best QSO you never heard as W4ZV said... and, 'if i did not hear it with my ears, it does not exist, I can not work it, it doesn't count' also.. still, ARRL DXCC desk doesn't care what mode we use, right? sowhat the heck? as jim, K9YC pointed out, directional receiving antennas, 'reasonably efficient' transmit antennas, and receivers, transmitters, amplifiers are still necessary...I am just adding K1JT's impressive software to the toolbox. I'm just trying to work something on what sounds like a dead band. Today, it was impressive. 20 mins past sunrise, i was still de-coding vk3xq ( and he heard me ), and the band sounded 'dead'I rarely work any dx 5 minutes after sunrise on top band, from this QTH.. reception in suburban locations is challenging. Are multi-acre, deep rural locations a requirement for peer approval when chasing dx on top band? I hope not. To be sure, when signals become readable again, I will be back on cw... 73, w5xz, dan On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:01 AM, ALEXEY OGORODOV ua4...@mail.ru wrote: Hello brethren, I´m ready to be crucified yet I couldn´t resist asking a question: What's the value of JT modes qso for a dxer? IMHO Digimodes undermine the value of low band dxing. I don't arfue over reliability of the modes and their help in extension of hamradio capabilities in general yet JT and such do not require much from the operator. With all due respect, Alex _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65
greetings to pass the time through the summer doldrums, I've been playing with weak signal digi-modes. Near sunrise, am having fair luck to VK, w jt-65... VK3XQ comes through almost every day.. but, at Eu sunrise, my cq's go un-answered, even with kw power. Is the band really THAT bad to Eu, still? from a noisy suburban location, WSJT-x seems to help... 73, W5XZ, Dan _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65
There's the band, and then there's folks using the band. Both have to line up! Important thing is that it is winter in VK :-). So more likely for VK's to be on topband than for EU's. I don't do JT-65 but below I share some of my experience with CW this summer on 160M: Just in the past week I have been able to hear intermittent EU 160M CW activity as I clean up my K9AY loop. In the Summer Stew, I worked one EU, which is kinda the best case I had hoped for. I was surprised when I went back this morning to look at the reversebeacon reports for the summer stew... for a bit I was getting spotted on 160M on several places in Europe. I notice that NO3M who was also very active in Summer Stew was getting spotted too but not at exact same times: grep N3QE 20140622.csv | grep 160m | grep EU DR1A,DL,EU,1823.3,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,10,2014-06-22 01:40:23,21,CW GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.3,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,6,2014-06-22 01:40:36,21,CW GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,7,2014-06-22 01:45:19,22,CW GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,9,2014-06-22 01:57:52,21,CW DR1A,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,23,2014-06-22 02:02:35,24,CW DL1EMY,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,26,2014-06-22 02:03:20,24,CW DR1A,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,14,2014-06-22 02:12:56,23,CW DL1EMY,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,17,2014-06-22 02:13:10,23,CW GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,6,2014-06-22 02:16:48,24,CW GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,7,2014-06-22 02:23:54,24,CW DR1A,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,4,2014-06-22 02:25:52,24,CW GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,7,2014-06-22 02:34:00,24,CW DL1EMY,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,3,2014-06-22 02:34:17,24,CW DR1A,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,8,2014-06-22 02:36:48,20,CW GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,6,2014-06-22 02:44:11,22,CW grep NO3M 20140622.csv | grep 160m | grep EU GW8IZR,GW,EU,1819.4,160m,NO3M,K,NA,CQ,10,2014-06-22 03:33:30,29,CW EI6IZ,EI,EU,1819.4,160m,NO3M,K,NA,CQ,10,2014-06-22 03:33:43,29,CW GW8IZR,GW,EU,1819.4,160m,NO3M,K,NA,CQ,25,2014-06-22 03:45:06,29,CW EI6IZ,EI,EU,1819.4,160m,NO3M,K,NA,CQ,21,2014-06-22 03:48:16,28,CW Tim N3QE On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Dan Edward Dba East edwards dan.n.edwa...@sbcglobal.net wrote: greetings to pass the time through the summer doldrums, I've been playing with weak signal digi-modes. Near sunrise, am having fair luck to VK, w jt-65... VK3XQ comes through almost every day.. but, at Eu sunrise, my cq's go un-answered, even with kw power. Is the band really THAT bad to Eu, still? from a noisy suburban location, WSJT-x seems to help... 73, W5XZ, Dan _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65
Dan Edward Dba East edwards dan.n.edwa...@sbcglobal.net wrote: greetings to pass the time through the summer doldrums, I've been playing with weak signal digi-modes. Near sunrise, am having fair luck to VK, w jt-65... VK3XQ comes through almost every day.. but, at Eu sunrise, my cq's go un-answered, even with kw power. Is the band really THAT bad to Eu, still? from a noisy suburban location, WSJT-x seems to help... I'm a late night person so sunrise is unlikely for me but the band has been very quiet late evening/early morning of late, apart from the S9++ static from summer storms. CQs on JT9/65 have only registered at most two or three eu stations on the RB sites but no replies. 80m has been quite good but few new DX stations to work! VK/ZL coming through grey line, and Namibia/ZS most evenings. 73, W5XZ, Dan _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband -- Brian D G3VGZ _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65
Hello brethren, I´m ready to be crucified yet I couldn´t resist asking a question: What's the value of JT modes qso for a dxer? IMHO Digimodes undermine the value of low band dxing. I don't arfue over reliability of the modes and their help in extension of hamradio capabilities in general yet JT and such do not require much from the operator. With all due respect, Alex _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65
On 8/12/2014 8:00 AM, ALEXEY OGORODOV wrote: What's the value of JT modes qso for a dxer? There's far more to ham radio than making QSOs on CW (which I have been doing for 59 years). There's also station and antenna building, learning new techniques, interfacing computers to rigs, and so on. From my QTH 5 miles from the Pacific, 70 miles S of San Francisco, I haven't heard EU on 160 for three seasons, and I've never heard any stations from eastern Europe in the 8 years I've lived here. If any of K1JT's WSJT modes let me do that, I'll use them. They are NOT automatic modes, they do require operator skill and knowledge of propagation, and they do require transmitters, receivers, and antennas. Although W5XZ did not say so in his post, he often is on the band calling CQ on CW. I know because I hear him. 73, Jim K9YC _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband