Re: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes rather than instances?

2014-07-24 Thread Jack Hodges
I am trying to build faceted search across standard models/repositories. In 
this case the classes are terminals for the repository and contain all the 
information an instance would carry. For example, in the obolibrary DOID, 
disease obo:DOID_9352 is fully populated with content, and the disease is 
unlikely to be subclassed or instantiated.

My understanding is that these classes can participate in faceted search 
under certain circumstances. First, they have to subclassed under one of my 
classes. Also, for classes to be facetable they need to carry properties 
and look like resources.

I created namespaces such as the following for Symptoms:

http://siemens.com/1.0/vocab/biomed-symp

and a prefix for it: biomed-symp. I created a class called Symptom and then 
subclassed several (for the purposes of a demo) of the classes in the 
obolibrary (e.g., obo:SYMP_455) to biomed-symp:Symptom. I did the same 
for diseases (etc.). I created facets to bridge the repositories, such as 
biomed-symp:involvesDisease, that I hung off biomed-symp:Symptom in the 
defaultFacets property.

In the vocabulary, I added these properties (e.g,. obo:SYMP_455 
biomed-symp:involvesDisease obo:DOID_9352).

Unfortunately this approach isn't working, so I haven't gone far enough in 
one way or another, and figure that you guys might know how to do it. Any 
help would be appreciated as faceted search is very important to this 
project. My faceted search in other parts of the project, created the same 
way but on class instances, are working fine.

Jack


On Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:22:44 AM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

 What would you use as facets?


 On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Jack Hodges jhodg...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Can I build a faceted search on classes rather than on class instances? If 
 I have a repository that is basically a taxonomy and has all of the content 
 at the class level, then faceted search on the classes would provide the 
 same benefit as faceted search on instances.

 Jack

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RE: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes rather than instances?

2014-07-24 Thread Irene Polikoff
Jack, 

 

I don’t believe sub-classing is either an issue or a requirement here. Faceted 
search works over instances of a class. Classes are instances of either 
rdfs:Class or owl:Class. So, you need to be faceting over either rdfs:Class or 
owl:Class. And properties to select from as facets would need to be associated 
with these e.g., have owl:Class in their domain.

 

Irene

 

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Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes rather than instances?

 

I am trying to build faceted search across standard models/repositories. In 
this case the classes are terminals for the repository and contain all the 
information an instance would carry. For example, in the obolibrary DOID, 
disease obo:DOID_9352 is fully populated with content, and the disease is 
unlikely to be subclassed or instantiated.

My understanding is that these classes can participate in faceted search under 
certain circumstances. First, they have to subclassed under one of my classes. 
Also, for classes to be facetable they need to carry properties and look like 
resources.

I created namespaces such as the following for Symptoms:

http://siemens.com/1.0/vocab/biomed-symp

and a prefix for it: biomed-symp. I created a class called Symptom and then 
subclassed several (for the purposes of a demo) of the classes in the 
obolibrary (e.g., obo:SYMP_455) to biomed-symp:Symptom. I did the same for 
diseases (etc.). I created facets to bridge the repositories, such as 
biomed-symp:involvesDisease, that I hung off biomed-symp:Symptom in the 
defaultFacets property.

In the vocabulary, I added these properties (e.g,. obo:SYMP_455 
biomed-symp:involvesDisease obo:DOID_9352).

Unfortunately this approach isn't working, so I haven't gone far enough in one 
way or another, and figure that you guys might know how to do it. Any help 
would be appreciated as faceted search is very important to this project. My 
faceted search in other parts of the project, created the same way but on class 
instances, are working fine.

Jack


On Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:22:44 AM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

What would you use as facets?


On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Jack Hodges jhodg...@gmail.com javascript:  
wrote:

Can I build a faceted search on classes rather than on class instances? If I 
have a repository that is basically a taxonomy and has all of the content at 
the class level, then faceted search on the classes would provide the same 
benefit as faceted search on instances.

 

Jack

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Re: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes rather than instances?

2014-07-24 Thread Jack Hodges
Thanks!

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:28:41 AM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

 Jack, 

  

 I don’t believe sub-classing is either an issue or a requirement here. 
 Faceted search works over instances of a class. Classes are instances of 
 either rdfs:Class or owl:Class. So, you need to be faceting over either 
 rdfs:Class or owl:Class. And properties to select from as facets would need 
 to be associated with these e.g., have owl:Class in their domain.

  

 Irene

  

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 topbrai...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Jack Hodges
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:17 AM
 *To:* topbrai...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes rather than 
 instances?

  

 I am trying to build faceted search across standard models/repositories. 
 In this case the classes are terminals for the repository and contain all 
 the information an instance would carry. For example, in the obolibrary 
 DOID, disease obo:DOID_9352 is fully populated with content, and the 
 disease is unlikely to be subclassed or instantiated.

 My understanding is that these classes can participate in faceted search 
 under certain circumstances. First, they have to subclassed under one of my 
 classes. Also, for classes to be facetable they need to carry properties 
 and look like resources.

 I created namespaces such as the following for Symptoms:

 http://siemens.com/1.0/vocab/biomed-symp

 and a prefix for it: biomed-symp. I created a class called Symptom and 
 then subclassed several (for the purposes of a demo) of the classes in the 
 obolibrary (e.g., obo:SYMP_455) to biomed-symp:Symptom. I did the same 
 for diseases (etc.). I created facets to bridge the repositories, such as 
 biomed-symp:involvesDisease, that I hung off biomed-symp:Symptom in the 
 defaultFacets property.

 In the vocabulary, I added these properties (e.g,. obo:SYMP_455 
 biomed-symp:involvesDisease obo:DOID_9352).

 Unfortunately this approach isn't working, so I haven't gone far enough in 
 one way or another, and figure that you guys might know how to do it. Any 
 help would be appreciated as faceted search is very important to this 
 project. My faceted search in other parts of the project, created the same 
 way but on class instances, are working fine.

 Jack


 On Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:22:44 AM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

 What would you use as facets?


 On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Jack Hodges jhodg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can I build a faceted search on classes rather than on class instances? If 
 I have a repository that is basically a taxonomy and has all of the content 
 at the class level, then faceted search on the classes would provide the 
 same benefit as faceted search on instances.

  

 Jack

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Re: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes rather than instances?

2014-07-24 Thread Jack Hodges
Hello Irene,

I checked all of the classes and they are all rdf:type owl:Class (they 
subclass owl:Thing). I checked all of the properties I am using as facets 
and the items in all of their domains and ranges are rdf:type owl:Class. 
But no faceted search (I closed and opened the model and refreshed the 
caches and the swp graphs).

Jack

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:26:37 AM UTC-7, Jack Hodges wrote:

 Thanks!

 On Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:28:41 AM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

 Jack, 

  

 I don’t believe sub-classing is either an issue or a requirement here. 
 Faceted search works over instances of a class. Classes are instances of 
 either rdfs:Class or owl:Class. So, you need to be faceting over either 
 rdfs:Class or owl:Class. And properties to select from as facets would need 
 to be associated with these e.g., have owl:Class in their domain.

  

 Irene

  

 *From:* topbrai...@googlegroups.com [mailto:topbrai...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Jack Hodges
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:17 AM
 *To:* topbrai...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes rather than 
 instances?

  

 I am trying to build faceted search across standard models/repositories. 
 In this case the classes are terminals for the repository and contain all 
 the information an instance would carry. For example, in the obolibrary 
 DOID, disease obo:DOID_9352 is fully populated with content, and the 
 disease is unlikely to be subclassed or instantiated.

 My understanding is that these classes can participate in faceted search 
 under certain circumstances. First, they have to subclassed under one of my 
 classes. Also, for classes to be facetable they need to carry properties 
 and look like resources.

 I created namespaces such as the following for Symptoms:

 http://siemens.com/1.0/vocab/biomed-symp

 and a prefix for it: biomed-symp. I created a class called Symptom and 
 then subclassed several (for the purposes of a demo) of the classes in the 
 obolibrary (e.g., obo:SYMP_455) to biomed-symp:Symptom. I did the same 
 for diseases (etc.). I created facets to bridge the repositories, such as 
 biomed-symp:involvesDisease, that I hung off biomed-symp:Symptom in the 
 defaultFacets property.

 In the vocabulary, I added these properties (e.g,. obo:SYMP_455 
 biomed-symp:involvesDisease obo:DOID_9352).

 Unfortunately this approach isn't working, so I haven't gone far enough 
 in one way or another, and figure that you guys might know how to do it. 
 Any help would be appreciated as faceted search is very important to this 
 project. My faceted search in other parts of the project, created the same 
 way but on class instances, are working fine.

 Jack


 On Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:22:44 AM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

 What would you use as facets?


 On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Jack Hodges jhodg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can I build a faceted search on classes rather than on class instances? 
 If I have a repository that is basically a taxonomy and has all of the 
 content at the class level, then faceted search on the classes would 
 provide the same benefit as faceted search on instances.

  

 Jack

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Re: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes rather than instances?

2014-07-24 Thread Holger Knublauch

Hi Jack,

sorry but I believe we will need to get hands on your example file to 
help you further. Off-list is fine.


Holger


On 7/25/2014 5:20, Jack Hodges wrote:

Hello Irene,

I checked all of the classes and they are all rdf:type owl:Class (they 
subclass owl:Thing). I checked all of the properties I am using as 
facets and the items in all of their domains and ranges are rdf:type 
owl:Class. But no faceted search (I closed and opened the model and 
refreshed the caches and the swp graphs).


Jack

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:26:37 AM UTC-7, Jack Hodges wrote:

Thanks!

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:28:41 AM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

Jack,

I don’t believe sub-classing is either an issue or a
requirement here. Faceted search works over instances of a
class. Classes are instances of either rdfs:Class or
owl:Class. So, you need to be faceting over either rdfs:Class
or owl:Class. And properties to select from as facets would
need to be associated with these e.g., have owl:Class in their
domain.

Irene

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*Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:17 AM
*To:* topbrai...@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] faceted search on classes
rather than instances?

I am trying to build faceted search across standard
models/repositories. In this case the classes are terminals
for the repository and contain all the information an instance
would carry. For example, in the obolibrary DOID, disease
obo:DOID_9352 is fully populated with content, and the disease
is unlikely to be subclassed or instantiated.

My understanding is that these classes can participate in
faceted search under certain circumstances. First, they have
to subclassed under one of my classes. Also, for classes to be
facetable they need to carry properties and look like resources.

I created namespaces such as the following for Symptoms:

http://siemens.com/1.0/vocab/biomed-symp
http://siemens.com/1.0/vocab/biomed-symp

and a prefix for it: biomed-symp. I created a class called
Symptom and then subclassed several (for the purposes of a
demo) of the classes in the obolibrary (e.g.,
obo:SYMP_455) to biomed-symp:Symptom. I did the same for
diseases (etc.). I created facets to bridge the repositories,
such as biomed-symp:involvesDisease, that I hung off
biomed-symp:Symptom in the defaultFacets property.

In the vocabulary, I added these properties (e.g,.
obo:SYMP_455 biomed-symp:involvesDisease obo:DOID_9352).

Unfortunately this approach isn't working, so I haven't gone
far enough in one way or another, and figure that you guys
might know how to do it. Any help would be appreciated as
faceted search is very important to this project. My faceted
search in other parts of the project, created the same way but
on class instances, are working fine.

Jack


On Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:22:44 AM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

What would you use as facets?


On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Jack Hodges jhodg...@gmail.com
wrote:

Can I build a faceted search on classes rather than on
class instances? If I have a repository that is basically
a taxonomy and has all of the content at the class level,
then faceted search on the classes would provide the same
benefit as faceted search on instances.

Jack

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