RE: [topbraid-users] include question

2021-10-20 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
Thx I will try the last option.



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Hi Michel,

I can only repeat what I said - the EDG app does not do this. I’ve made 
hundreds of ontologies, and other staff and customers have made thousands, 
without seeing this behaviour.

I occasionally see odd behaviour running EDG from TBC (i.e. eclipse) where 
cleanup/restart is needed though. Maybe there’s something leftover in TBC cache 
or workspace - suggest re-starting TBC. Maybe the TBC workspace is somehow 
corrupted and you should create a new one.

Cheers,
David


On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:38, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hmmm, not circular…

What i do:

Create new ontology in edg called sma (https://w3id.org/sma/def)

Import my sainput ontology (this one is only importing sh) for the excel inport

Next I import the sa target ontology (this one imports sainput, and also 
nen2660 but this cannot cause issue I think, there is no link to sma)

After this action I see the sma selfinclude…..



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EDG ontologies do not include themselves.  I expect there is a circular import 
in your ontologies set.
Cheers,
David



On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:08, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Everytime I cretae an ontology in EDG it seems somehow it is included in 
itself: example ontology ‘sma’:



So everytime I have to delete it I first have to delete this include first.
At what point in time is this selfinclude added?

Thx Michel



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Re: [topbraid-users] include question

2021-10-20 Thread David Price 
Hi Michel,

I can only repeat what I said - the EDG app does not do this. I’ve made 
hundreds of ontologies, and other staff and customers have made thousands, 
without seeing this behaviour.

I occasionally see odd behaviour running EDG from TBC (i.e. eclipse) where 
cleanup/restart is needed though. Maybe there’s something leftover in TBC cache 
or workspace - suggest re-starting TBC. Maybe the TBC workspace is somehow 
corrupted and you should create a new one.

Cheers,
David

> On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:38, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, not circular…
>  
> What i do:
>  
> Create new ontology in edg called sma (https://w3id.org/sma/def 
> )
>  
> Import my sainput ontology (this one is only importing sh) for the excel 
> inport
>  
> Next I import the sa target ontology (this one imports sainput, and also 
> nen2660 but this cannot cause issue I think, there is no link to sma)
>  
> After this action I see the sma selfinclude…..
>  
>  
> Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms
> Scientist Specialist
> Structural Reliability
> T +31 (0)88 866 31 07
> M +31 (0)63 038 12 20
> E michel.bo...@tno.nl 
> Location 
> 
>  
>  
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>   > On Behalf Of David Price
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:20 AM
> To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] include question
>  
> EDG ontologies do not include themselves.  I expect there is a circular 
> import in your ontologies set.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> 
> On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:08, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
> mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Everytime I cretae an ontology in EDG it seems somehow it is included in 
> itself: example ontology ‘sma’:
>  
> 
>  
> So everytime I have to delete it I first have to delete this include first.
> At what point in time is this selfinclude added?
>  
> Thx Michel
>  
>  
> Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms
> Scientist Specialist
> Structural Reliability
> T +31 (0)88 866 31 07
> M +31 (0)63 038 12 20
> E michel.bo...@tno.nl 
> Location 
> 
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>  
>  
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RE: [topbraid-users] include question

2021-10-20 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
Hmmm, not circular…

What i do:

Create new ontology in edg called sma (https://w3id.org/sma/def)

Import my sainput ontology (this one is only importing sh) for the excel inport

Next I import the sa target ontology (this one imports sainput, and also 
nen2660 but this cannot cause issue I think, there is no link to sma)

After this action I see the sma selfinclude…..



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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] include question

EDG ontologies do not include themselves.  I expect there is a circular import 
in your ontologies set.
Cheers,
David


On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:08, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Everytime I cretae an ontology in EDG it seems somehow it is included in 
itself: example ontology ‘sma’:



So everytime I have to delete it I first have to delete this include first.
At what point in time is this selfinclude added?

Thx Michel



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Re: [topbraid-users] include question

2021-10-20 Thread David Price 
EDG ontologies do not include themselves.  I expect there is a circular import 
in your ontologies set.

Cheers,
David

> On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:08, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Everytime I cretae an ontology in EDG it seems somehow it is included in 
> itself: example ontology ‘sma’:
>  
> 
>  
> So everytime I have to delete it I first have to delete this include first.
> At what point in time is this selfinclude added?
>  
> Thx Michel
>  
>  
> Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms
> Scientist Specialist
> Structural Reliability
> T +31 (0)88 866 31 07
> M +31 (0)63 038 12 20
> E michel.bo...@tno.nl
> Location
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[topbraid-users] include question

2021-10-20 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
Everytime I cretae an ontology in EDG it seems somehow it is included in 
itself: example ontology 'sma':

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So everytime I have to delete it I first have to delete this include first.
At what point in time is this selfinclude added?

Thx Michel



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