Re: [topbraid-users] sh:nodes and sh:minus

2024-04-27 Thread Marie Valadez 
Thank you so much Holger for the quick response! Appreciate the diagram as
well to provide some context. I will give your suggestions a try!

On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 3:08 AM Holger Knublauch 
wrote:

> Hi Marie,
>
> when you look at the diagram view of the sh:values rule you will note that
> something is missing:
>
> [image: PastedGraphic-2.png]
>
> The sh:minus is ignored because it "competes" with the sh:filterShape for
> the sh:nodes input. There is one level of nesting missing, as you have
> sh:filterShape and sh:minus on the same level.
>
> I believe one solution might be:
>
> sh:values [
> sh:minus [
> sh:path ex:characteristics ;
> ] ;
> sh:nodes [
> sh:distinct [
> sh:filterShape [
> sh:or (
> [
> sh:class ex:Food ;
> ]
> [
> sh:class ex:SkeletalStructure ;
> ]
> ) ;
> ] ;
> sh:nodes [
> sh:path (
> skos:broader
> ex:characteristics
> ) ;
> ] ;
> ] ;
> ] ;
> ] ;
>
> which visualizes as
>
>
> [image: PastedGraphic-1.png]
>
> HTH
> Holger
>
>
> On 26 Apr 2024, at 6:42 PM, Marie Valadez  wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I am trying to use infer values through sh:values using sh:nodes,
> sh:filterShape, sh:minus.
> However, it is not working as intended. Assuming I am writing something
> incorrectly.
>
> As a similar example to what I am doing. I want to infer values for a
> property through a skos:broader connection and then subtract any that the
> focusNode already has through the property and only infer values of a
> specific class.
>
> ex:Dog skos:broader ex:Mammal ;
>   ex:characteristics ex:Hair , ex:Four-legged, ex:Terrestrial,
> ex:Vertebrae.
> ex:Mammal ex:characteristcs ex:Vertebrae, ex:MilkProducer, ex:Hair .
>
> ex:Vertebrae rdf:type ex:SkeletalStructure .
> ex:Four-legged rdf:type ex:Locomotion.
> ex:MilkProducer rdf:type ex:Food .
> ex:Terrestrial rdf:type ex:Habitat.
>
> I want to create a set of inferred values from the parent which only
> include ex:SkeletalStructure and ex:Food. If the focusNode already has the
> value for the property then I do not want it to show up in the inherited
> values.
>
>  sh:values [
> sh:minus [sh:path ex:characteristics ]; #also tried as (sh:this
> ex:characteristics); also tried putting it with the sh:node itself.
>   sh:filterShape [
>   sh:or (
>   [
> sh:class ex:Food ;
>   ]
>   [
> sh:class ex:SkeletalStructure;
>   ]
> ) ;
> ] ;
>   sh:nodes [
>   sh:distinct [
> sh:path (
>   skos:broader
>   ex:characteristics
> ) ;
>   ];
> ] ;
>   ];
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [topbraid-users] sh:nodes and sh:minus

2024-04-27 Thread Holger Knublauch 
Hi Marie,

when you look at the diagram view of the sh:values rule you will note that 
something is missing:



The sh:minus is ignored because it "competes" with the sh:filterShape for the 
sh:nodes input. There is one level of nesting missing, as you have 
sh:filterShape and sh:minus on the same level.

I believe one solution might be:

  sh:values [
  sh:minus [
  sh:path ex:characteristics ;
] ;
  sh:nodes [
  sh:distinct [
  sh:filterShape [
  sh:or (
  [
sh:class ex:Food ;
  ]
  [
sh:class ex:SkeletalStructure ;
  ]
) ;
] ;
  sh:nodes [
  sh:path (
  skos:broader
  ex:characteristics
) ;
] ;
] ;
] ;
] ;

which visualizes as




HTH
Holger


> On 26 Apr 2024, at 6:42 PM, Marie Valadez  wrote:
> 
> Hello! 
> 
> I am trying to use infer values through sh:values using sh:nodes, 
> sh:filterShape, sh:minus. 
> However, it is not working as intended. Assuming I am writing something 
> incorrectly. 
> 
> As a similar example to what I am doing. I want to infer values for a 
> property through a skos:broader connection and then subtract any that the 
> focusNode already has through the property and only infer values of a 
> specific class. 
> 
> ex:Dog skos:broader ex:Mammal ; 
>   ex:characteristics ex:Hair , ex:Four-legged, ex:Terrestrial, 
> ex:Vertebrae.
> ex:Mammal ex:characteristcs ex:Vertebrae, ex:MilkProducer, ex:Hair .
> 
> ex:Vertebrae rdf:type ex:SkeletalStructure .
> ex:Four-legged rdf:type ex:Locomotion.
> ex:MilkProducer rdf:type ex:Food .
> ex:Terrestrial rdf:type ex:Habitat.
> 
> I want to create a set of inferred values from the parent which only include 
> ex:SkeletalStructure and ex:Food. If the focusNode already has the value for 
> the property then I do not want it to show up in the inherited values. 
> 
>  sh:values [
> sh:minus [sh:path ex:characteristics ]; #also tried as (sh:this 
> ex:characteristics); also tried putting it with the sh:node itself.
>   sh:filterShape [
>   sh:or (
>   [
> sh:class ex:Food ;
>   ]
>   [
> sh:class ex:SkeletalStructure;
>   ]
> ) ;
> ] ;
>   sh:nodes [
>   sh:distinct [ 
> sh:path (
>   skos:broader 
>   ex:characteristics
> ) ;
>   ];
> ] ;
>   ]; 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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