Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
---+---
 Reporter:  Marionette |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement| Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser   |Version:
 Severity:  Normal | Resolution:  wontfix
 Keywords:  Marionette, tor-pt, ex-sponsor-19  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID: | Points:
 Reviewer: |Sponsor:
   |  Sponsor28-can
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Comment (by cypherpunks):

 Replying to [comment:12 cohosh]:
 > The decision to abandon this happened for a few reasons. One being that
 the marionette code base no longer seems to be maintained and as commented
 on above and in #29623 wasn't working for us out of the box.
 >
 > I also had a recent conversation with some of the team involved with
 designing and developing marionette and it sounds like they have a newer
 version in the works that they are also interested in adapting to be a
 pluggable transport. That leads me to believe that marionette will not be
 maintained in the future as they are shifting focus to the newer, improved
 version.
 That's largely reassuring, thanks a ton for this!

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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
---+---
 Reporter:  Marionette |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement| Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser   |Version:
 Severity:  Normal | Resolution:  wontfix
 Keywords:  Marionette, tor-pt, ex-sponsor-19  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID: | Points:
 Reviewer: |Sponsor:
   |  Sponsor28-can
---+---

Comment (by cohosh):

 The decision to abandon this happened for a few reasons. One being that
 the marionette code base no longer seems to be maintained and as commented
 on above and in #29623 wasn't working for us out of the box.

 I also had a recent conversation with some of the team involved with
 designing and developing marionette and it sounds like they have a newer
 version in the works that they are also interested in adapting to be a
 pluggable transport. That leads me to believe that marionette will not be
 maintained in the future as they are shifting focus to the newer, improved
 version.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
---+---
 Reporter:  Marionette |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement| Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser   |Version:
 Severity:  Normal | Resolution:  wontfix
 Keywords:  Marionette, tor-pt, ex-sponsor-19  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID: | Points:
 Reviewer: |Sponsor:
   |  Sponsor28-can
---+---

Comment (by cypherpunks):

 Replying to [comment:10 ahf]:
 > This is no longer something we are planning on doing.
 Sorry I haven't been up to date with the latest PT work, but can we know
 what happened exactly that lead to this decision?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
---+---
 Reporter:  Marionette |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement| Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser   |Version:
 Severity:  Normal | Resolution:  wontfix
 Keywords:  Marionette, tor-pt, ex-sponsor-19  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID: | Points:
 Reviewer: |Sponsor:
   |  Sponsor28-can
---+---
Changes (by ahf):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => wontfix


Comment:

 This is no longer something we are planning on doing.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
--+---
 Reporter:  Marionette|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  Marionette tor-pt |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:  Sponsor19
--+---

Comment (by cohosh):

 Just commenting to say that I've reallocated some resouces and have
 updated information for this bridge:

 
https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/C6345F09C3ECCE5DAE37E8D1EC8495A4577CA356

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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
--+---
 Reporter:  Marionette|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  Marionette tor-pt |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:  Sponsor19
--+---
Changes (by cohosh):

 * cc: cohosh (added)


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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
--+---
 Reporter:  Marionette|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  Marionette tor-pt |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:  Sponsor19
--+---

Comment (by cohosh):

 I have a marionette bridge set up for testing.

 === Bridge Info

 You can add the following line to the client's torrc file:
 {{{
 Bridge marionette 165.227.39.255:8081
 }}}

 The hashed-fingerprint is {{{F669BDEFC46E6F441A87418579A653C1D35BCF6F}}}

 This bridge also has an IPv6 address: {{{2604:a880:cad:d0::30:1}}}

 === Testing specifics

 You can place quite a bit of load on this one. I've placed an accounting
 max of 1TB/month on the bridge.

 === Build process for marionette

 It took some work to build the marionette server and configure the torrc
 file at the bridge. Right now it does not work out the box and the given
 torrc files in the marionette repository need to be modified for
 production bridge use.

 I've created a pull request to fix the compilation and linking issues
 here: https://github.com/redjack/marionette/pull/22

 These are the steps that I followed to build and deploy marionette:
 1. Build the dependencies {{{./build_third_party.sh}}} Note: you should
 run this script instead of following the User Guide. This will install the
 dependencies locally instead of system-wide and put them in the directory
 third_party/libs (which is where marionette later assumes they will be)

 2. go build

 3. go install ./cmd/marionette

 4. Place the binary (located locally in $GOPATH/bin) in /usr/local/bin/ of
 the bridge server

 Here's a sample torrc file that will work:
 {{{
 Nickname pick-a-nickname
 ContactInfo you 
 RunAsDaemon 0
 Log notice stderr

 BridgeRelay 1
 SOCKSPort 0
 ORPort 9001
 ExtORPort 9002
 #IPv6 is also enabled
 ORPort [ipv6 address]:9001

 ServerTransportPlugin marionette exec /usr/local/bin/marionette pt-server
 -log-file /var/log/tor/marionette-server.log -format http_simple_blocking

 # Marionette gets its listening port from its specification document.
 # This should be fixed before deployment. We hardcode this value to 8081.
 ServerTransportListenAddr marionette 0.0.0.0:8081
 }}}

 I've verified the bridge is working by connecting with a client with the
 following torrc file:
 {{{
 RunAsDaemon 0
 Log notice stderr
 DataDirectory datadir

 SocksPort 19050

 UseBridges 1

 # See comment in torrc.server for information about why this must always
 be 8081.
 Bridge marionette 165.227.39.255:8081

 ClientTransportPlugin marionette exec ./marionette pt-client -log-file
 marionette-client.log -format http_simple_blocking
 }}}

 === Other notes on marionette

 - The dependencies for marionette are still a bit troublesome. I'm worried
 that they will be difficult to maintain and easily go out of date. I see
 that python is no longer required which seems to be an improvement but I'm
 curious about the need for re2 and openfst.

 - It would be nice to fix the listen port to not be hardcoded:
 {{{
 # Marionette gets its listening port from its specification document.
 # This should be fixed before deployment. We hardcode this value to 8081.
 ServerTransportListenAddr marionette 0.0.0.0:8081
 }}}
 At cmd/marionette/pt_server.go:86
 {{{
 // Marionette always listen on port 8081 so we ignore TOR.
 // This should probably be fixed.
 host, port, err :=
 net.SplitHostPort(bindAddr.Addr.String())
 }}}

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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
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 Reporter:  Marionette|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  Marionette tor-pt |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:  Sponsor19
--+---
Changes (by gk):

 * cc: gk (added)


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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
--+---
 Reporter:  Marionette|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  Marionette tor-pt |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:  Sponsor19
--+---
Changes (by gaba):

 * keywords:  Marionette => Marionette tor-pt


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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
--+---
 Reporter:  Marionette|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  Marionette|  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:  Sponsor19
--+---
Changes (by arma):

 * cc: ahf (added)
 * sponsor:   => Sponsor19


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Re: [tor-bugs] #26920 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport

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#26920: Deploy Marionette as a Pluggable Transport
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 Reporter:  Marionette|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  Marionette|  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
--+--
Changes (by dcf):

 * owner:  asn => tbb-team
 * priority:  Very High => Medium
 * component:  Obfuscation/Pluggable transport => Applications/Tor Browser
 * cc: dcf (added)


Comment:

 [https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-July/01.html tor-
 dev thread]
 > We are now ready to integrate Marionette, or at least have it evaluated,
 as a bridge for the Tor browser in its Pythonless form.
 >
 > At the Tor meeting in March, we successfully operated Marionette as a
 bridge by implementing the PT v2.0 specification (Thanks ahf!).
 >
 > Now we have a new version of Marionette which operates as a stand-alone
 binary (NO PYTHON!).  I checked that it still forms a bridge, like at the
 Tor meeting.  We also have a wider variety of transports enabled.
 >
 > We are in the process of writing the documentation for Marionette, but
 the documentation on the web page should be sufficient for at least
 getting a full evaluation started.  We'd like to have the evaluation
 complete by the end of next month, hopefully the middle of next month, and
 stand ready to make any and all changes necessary.
 >
 > A full set of documentation will also be written for designing your own
 protocols.  This is in process.

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