Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201903R, tbb-8.5 |
Parent ID:   | Points:
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Changes (by gk):

 * status:  needs_review => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 Replying to [comment:23 mcs]:
 > Replying to [comment:22 gk]:
 > > Two final questions (I think :) ):
 > >
 > > 1) What's the reason for having
 > > {{{
 > > +m_tb_prefs.clearUserPref(kShouldNotifyPref);
 > > }}}
 > > in the Torbutton patch? What is the scenario you are worried about
 here that makes you clearing the user pref?
 >
 > We need to clear that pref so that the post-update variation of the
 about:tor page is only shown once.

 Right, I can see now why, thanks.

 > > 2) What is "tor-right" in "include in the tor-right corner" in the
 Torbutton commit message? Did you mean "upper-right"? (If so, what about
 RTL bundles)
 >
 > Apparently I have been thinking about "tor" too much. That was supposed
 to read "top-right" but in any case you are correct to question it. In an
 RTL browser it will be on the left. I fixed the commit message on the
 following branch (which contains the same two patches as before):
 >
 https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/brade/torbutton.git/log/?h=bug29440-03

 :)

 Thanks for the patches, nice work! I merged them to `tor-
 browser-60.5.1esr-8.5-1` (commits 681eefdd4234007f4984dd88abc2dfe10cbc2740
 and 0c7bd3b2fa73e8be38f5aac46cbc68d025071f05) and Torbutton's `master`
 brach (commits d45e7f502c05101660e77d430d939582728952f2 and
 82a5f8665a6b5a7f5d4c78f0a526dfa16834ec7f).

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201903R, tbb-8.5 |
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by mcs):

 Replying to [comment:22 gk]:
 > Two final questions (I think :) ):
 >
 > 1) What's the reason for having
 > {{{
 > +m_tb_prefs.clearUserPref(kShouldNotifyPref);
 > }}}
 > in the Torbutton patch? What is the scenario you are worried about here
 that makes you clearing the user pref?

 We need to clear that pref so that the post-update variation of the
 about:tor page is only shown once.

 > 2) What is "tor-right" in "include in the tor-right corner" in the
 Torbutton commit message? Did you mean "upper-right"? (If so, what about
 RTL bundles)

 Apparently I have been thinking about "tor" too much. That was supposed to
 read "top-right" but in any case you are correct to question it. In an RTL
 browser it will be on the left. I fixed the commit message on the
 following branch (which contains the same two patches as before):
 https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/brade/torbutton.git/log/?h=bug29440-03

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201903R, tbb-8.5 |
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:21 mcs]:
 > Replying to [comment:20 gk]:
 > > Do we have a way to just show the "View Changelog" link on the release
 and alpha series where there actually is a Changelog?
 >
 > Good question. We could omit the ChangeLog.txt file from the nightly
 builds and then modify the about:tor code to check that such a file exists
 (and hide the "View Changelog" link if not). But it seems simplest to just
 check the update channel, so we revised our Torbutton patch to take that
 approach. Please test (and review) using the two torbutton patches that
 are on our bug29440-02 branch:
 >
 ​https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/brade/torbutton.git/log/?h=bug29440-02

 Works for me.

 Two final questions (I think :) ):

 1) What's the reason for having
 {{{
 +m_tb_prefs.clearUserPref(kShouldNotifyPref);
 }}}
 in the Torbutton patch? What is the scenario you are worried about here
 that makes you clearing the user pref?

 2) What is "tor-right" in "include in the tor-right corner" in the
 Torbutton commit message? Did you mean "upper-right"? (If so, what about
 RTL bundles)

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by mcs):

 Replying to [comment:20 gk]:
 > Do we have a way to just show the "View Changelog" link on the release
 and alpha series where there actually is a Changelog?

 Good question. We could omit the ChangeLog.txt file from the nightly
 builds and then modify the about:tor code to check that such a file exists
 (and hide the "View Changelog" link if not). But it seems simplest to just
 check the update channel, so we revised our Torbutton patch to take that
 approach. Please test (and review) using the two torbutton patches that
 are on our bug29440-02 branch:
 ​https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/brade/torbutton.git/log/?h=bug29440-02

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by gk):

 Do we have a way to just show the "View Changelog" link on the release and
 alpha series where there actually is a Changelog? Right now, I see it in
 the testbuild as well showing me "Tor Browser tbb-nightly" (which is okay
 for now, even though we might want to use "nightly" in the future) and the
 link to the Changelog. Clicking on it, however, gets me the changes for
 8.5a8 which is confusing ("Hey, I am a nightly build user, why do I get
 the alpha Changelog link?").

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201903R, tbb-8.5 |
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Comment (by antonela):

 Replying to [comment:17 mcs]:
 > We have completed the implementation now. Tor Browser does not have the
 Source Sans Pro font, so we cannot use it. Should that be the subject of a
 new ticket?

 No, I think we can stick with system fonts.

 It looks awesome, thanks for this implementation!!!

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201903R, tbb-8.5 |
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by mcs):

 * status:  new => needs_review
 * keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, TorBrowserTeam201903, tbb-8.5 => ux-team,
 tbb-update, TorBrowserTeam201903R, tbb-8.5


Comment:

 There are two tor-browser commits on our bug29440-01 branch; the first one
 reverts the change that added the "New Circuit Display" banner to
 about:tbupdate, and the second commit implements the changes needed for
 this ticket:
 https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/brade/tor-
 browser.git/log/?h=bug29440-01

 There are also two torbutton patches (one to remove the strings that were
 added for the "New Circuit Display" banner, and one to implement the
 about:tor enhancements):
 https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/brade/torbutton.git/log/?h=bug29440-01

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
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Comment (by mcs):

 We have completed the implementation now. Tor Browser does not have the
 Source Sans Pro font, so we cannot use it. Should that be the subject of a
 new ticket?

 I will link to patches in a moment, but here is what the about:tor page
 looks like:
 [[Image(https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/raw-
 attachment/ticket/29440/bug28440-about-tor.png, 700px)]]

 And here is the changelog page (we kept the URL as about:tbupdate so that
 long time users do not need to learn a new URL):
 [[Image(https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/raw-
 attachment/ticket/29440/bug29440-about-tbupdate.png, 700px)]]

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
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Changes (by mcs):

 * Attachment "bug29440-about-tbupdate.png" added.

 about:tbupdate (changelog)

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201903, tbb-8.5  |
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Changes (by mcs):

 * Attachment "bug28440-about-tor.png" added.

 about:tor after update

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
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Comment (by antonela):

 Replying to [comment:14 mcs]:
 > I am not sure if the about:changelog page is a good place for that link.
 about:tor seems like a better place, and in fact we already have the Tor
 Browser Manual link there. Maybe we should make sure the manual includes
 info on how to get help and how to report a bug.

 Yep, good idea. Thanks!

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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Comment (by mcs):

 Replying to [comment:12 antonela]:
 > Do you think this is a good place to ask for feedback / report a bug
 too? If yes, should we link users to our contact page?
 >
 > https://lektor-staging.torproject.org/tpo/staging/contact/

 I am not sure if the about:changelog page is a good place for that link.
 about:tor seems like a better place, and in fact we already have the Tor
 Browser Manual link there. Maybe we should make sure the manual includes
 info on how to get help and how to report a bug.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Comment (by mcs):

 Replying to [comment:11 antonela]:
 > Replying to [comment:10 mcs]:
 > > I am not sure what kind of styling you have in mind, but the page is
 XHTML.
 >
 > Nothing too much complicated. Something close to:
 >
 > [[Image(https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/raw-
 attachment/ticket/29440/about%3Achangelog.jpg, 700px)]]
 >
 > Any monospace system font is elegant for the changelog copy. Then, you
 already have our brand font loaded. What do you think?

 Given our current process, it seems risky to depend too much on the format
 of the ChangeLog.txt file (we would need to parse it to pull the version
 and release date into separate fields). But we will try to style the page
 in a way that is similar to what you propose.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
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Comment (by antonela):

 Do you think this is a good place to ask for feedback / report a bug too?
 If yes, should we link users to our contact page?

 https://lektor-staging.torproject.org/tpo/staging/contact/

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Comment (by antonela):

 Replying to [comment:10 mcs]:
 > I am not sure what kind of styling you have in mind, but the page is
 XHTML.

 Nothing too much complicated. Something close to:

 [[Image(https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/raw-
 attachment/ticket/29440/about%3Achangelog.jpg, 700px)]]

 Any monospace system font is elegant for the changelog copy. Then, you
 already have our brand font loaded. What do you think?

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Changes (by antonela):

 * Attachment "about:changelog.jpg" added.


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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Changes (by mcs):

 * status:  needs_information => new


Comment:

 Replying to [comment:8 antonela]:
 > 2. Yes! `about:changelog` is the place where we are going to list change
 log lists. We discussed with Geko the possibility of including it in some
 place of the website. I owe that ticket. But, it is not related with this
 ticket scope. Maybe, that copy needs to be updated as well, since we are
 not going to link to the website, yet. Any suggestion?

 The old about:tbupdate page links to the blog posting for the release. I
 think we can keep that for now. Since the URL is retrieved from a server
 during the update process, it will be easy to change it later if the
 website gains a nice changelog page.

 > 3. I think that we should include it always. Could we keep it?

 Yes, will do.

 > Now my turn :)
 >
 > Do you need a mockup for `about:changelog`? Is that html/markdown? Do
 you want to put the data there and could I work on the style? Let me know
 what is better for you.

 I am not sure what kind of styling you have in mind, but the page is
 XHTML. Look here: https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-
 browser.git/tree/browser/base/content/abouttbupdate?h=tor-
 browser-60.5.1esr-8.5-1  One of the current limitations is that the change
 log itself is extracted from a plain text file: the contents of the
 `id="changelog"`  within the `aboutTBUpdate.xhtml` file are replaced
 with the first portion of the following file:
 https://gitweb.torproject.org/builders/tor-browser-build.git/tree/projects
 /tor-browser/Bundle-Data/Docs/ChangeLog.txt

 That means it will be difficult to apply different styles to different
 parts of the list of changes.

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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Comment (by antonela):

 Replying to [comment:5 gk]:
 > Yup, sounds like a good idea to me. Do you mind opening a ticket (bonus
 points for suggestions where on the website this should be shown. :) )?

 Done #29664, thanks!

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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
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Comment (by antonela):

 Replying to [comment:7 mcs]:

 Happy to have you both working on it :)

 1. Exactly, you right. One time and one time only. Next time they open the
 browser, or next time they open `about:tor` we should have the regular
 `about:tor`.

 2. Yes! `about:changelog` is the place where we are going to list change
 log lists. We discussed with Geko the possibility of including it in some
 place of the website. I owe that ticket. But, it is not related with this
 ticket scope.

 3. I think that we should include it always. Could we keep it?

 Now my turn :)

 Do you need a mockup for `about:changelog`? Is that html/markdown? Do you
 want to put the data there and could I work on the style? Let me know what
 is better for you.

 Thanks!

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_information
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201903   |
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by mcs):

 * status:  new => needs_information


Comment:

 Kathy and I are starting to look at implementation for this ticket and we
 have a few UX questions:
 1. Should the post-update about:tor page that includes the `Tor Browser
 has been updated` text be displayed one time and one time only? We assume
 the answer is yes, but that does mean there will be no way for the user to
 return to that variation of about:tor once they close it or navigate away.
 2. Should we include the `For the most up-to-date information about this
 release, visit our website.` text and link on the new about:changelog
 page? Kathy and I think we should so that users can access that link in
 the future by opening about:changelog (after they close or navigate away
 from the post-update about:tor page).
 3. Should the top-right corner of about:tor always include the `View
 Changelog` link, or should that only be visible in the post-update
 about:tor page? Always including it seems preferable because that will
 provide a way for users to see the changelog later from within the
 browser.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201903   |
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by gk):

 * cc: mcs, brade (added)
 * keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update => ux-team, tbb-update,
   TorBrowserTeam201903


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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  task  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
--+--

Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:4 antonela]:
 > Replying to [comment:3 gk]:
 > > Today we have `about:tbupdate` we could split that up and create a new
 URL, say, `about:changelog` or something for the "View Changelog" item.
 >
 > Sorry for the confusion, you are right. Having something like
 `about:changelog` is ideal. So, we can have the same layout we have in
 `about:tor` at `about:tbupdate` but with a new title.

 Yes, something like that.

 > And then, advanced (and curious) users can go deep on the changes
 clicking on `View Changelog`.
 >
 > Do we need a mockup for `about:changelog`? is that markdown/markup?

 Dunno. I have not thought about how fancy we want to have it. My first
 intuition is to just "cut out" what we have on `about:tbupdate` today and
 display it similarly on `about:changelog`...

 > Orthogonal: Do you think we need/should have a place to have it on our
 website? I think that could be useful to 1. have release notes outside the
 blog 2. have a centralized place to look for this notes.
 >
 > Firefox have https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/64.0/releasenotes/

 Yup, sounds like a good idea to me. Do you mind opening a ticket (bonus
 points for suggestions where on the website this should be shown. :) )?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  task  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
--+--

Comment (by antonela):

 Replying to [comment:3 gk]:
 > Today we have `about:tbupdate` we could split that up and create a new
 URL, say, `about:changelog` or something for the "View Changelog" item.

 Sorry for the confusion, you are right. Having something like
 `about:changelog` is ideal. So, we can have the same layout we have in
 `about:tor` at `about:tbupdate` but with a new title.

 And then, advanced (and curious) users can go deep on the changes clicking
 on `View Changelog`.

 Do we need a mockup for `about:changelog`? is that markdown/markup?

 Orthogonal: Do you think we need/should have a place to have it on our
 website? I think that could be useful to 1. have release notes outside the
 blog 2. have a centralized place to look for this notes.

 Firefox have https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/64.0/releasenotes/

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  task  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
--+--

Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:2 antonela]:
 > Replying to [comment:1 gk]:
 > > The mockup looks good to me. I think we could reuse our local
 Changelog page for the "View Changelog" item. That is, we could load that
 one instead of making a request to a remote page (which would need to be
 kept in sync with the Changelog we ship).
 >
 > Agreed! what is that url nowadays? We can style it to match the
 styleguide and we could be done. Do we have an .onion for it too?

 What do you mean? I was talking about _avoiding_ a remote URL and using a
 local one instead. Today we have `about:tbupdate` we could split that up
 and create a new URL, say, `about:changelog` or something for the "View
 Changelog" item.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  task  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
--+--

Comment (by antonela):

 Replying to [comment:1 gk]:
 > The mockup looks good to me. I think we could reuse our local Changelog
 page for the "View Changelog" item. That is, we could load that one
 instead of making a request to a remote page (which would need to be kept
 in sync with the Changelog we ship).

 Agreed! what is that url nowadays? We can style it to match the styleguide
 and we could be done. Do we have an .onion for it too?

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  task  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-update   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
--+--

Comment (by gk):

 The mockup looks good to me. I think we could reuse our local Changelog
 page for the "View Changelog" item. That is, we could load that one
 instead of making a request to a remote page (which would need to be kept
 in sync with the Changelog we ship).

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[tor-bugs] #29440 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated

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#29440: Update about:tor when Tor Browser is updated
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 Reporter:  antonela  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  task  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal|   Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-
  |  update
Actual Points:|  Parent ID:
   Points:|   Reviewer:
  Sponsor:|
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 As part of #25694, I suggested having "Tor Browser has been updated" as a
 title in `about:tor` when Tor Browser starts after an update.

 The mockup is here
 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/25694/1.3C.jpg

 For users interested in view the changelog, we should discuss if an
 exclusive page for it is the best way to approach it.

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