Re: [tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  tbb-mobile, ux-team   |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by antonela):

 Is this done? will we have the same issue at the next release?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  tbb-mobile, ux-team   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:2 antonela]:
 > Based on what we talked last week, I made two options to handle this
 issue.
 >
 > 1. Dialog Box - https://www.material.io/design/components/dialogs.html
 >
 > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/30540/1.png
 >
 > hellais suggested to do it in two steps by first asking users if they
 are developers and if they reply NO, then recommend them to download the
 stable app. I approached this version to solve this with one step. In this
 way, when users click [download stable], we open the Tor Browser stable
 download page.
 >
 > 2. First Screen
 >
 > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/30540/2.png
 >
 > If we consider that we should block the entire screen for this action,
 we could use a full-screen option. It should show before the onboarding on
 new users and one/two times on recurrent users.

 Thanks. I like option 1, I think. I am not sure about he full-screen
 option. Is that a thing an Android user would expect?

 >
 > We should update the description at Google Play too, so we don't have
 new users downloading the Alpha version by error. It is most urgent, imo.
 I'm adding steph because we need wording for this.

 Agreed.

 > Also, Google Play calls developer versions as `Beta`. Should we attach
 to gplay standards and replace `Alpha` for `Beta` in mobiles?

 I am not sure yet, but we could think about it. Nevertheless, this would
 be a new ticket and we should not try to solve that here, too.

 > We need a funnel for this and define which releases will contain this
 prompt. Also, what is the % of users we expect to move? Will we remove the
 prompt once we achieve it?

 I don't know what % we would expect. I think we should ship it for quite
 some time and we should design the feature in a way that the user gets
 prompted after the first update to a version with the feature under
 discussion here. Subsequent updates should not trigger it. I think users
 that download the alpha now-ish should not get it either given that we
 have the stable around for a while now.

 > If we succeed on the moving, users will still have two versions of TBA
 installed in their devices. Can we do something to prevent users to
 successfully download the stable app but still use the alpha one as
 default?

 Good question. Maybe, I guess?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  tbb-mobile, ux-team   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:3 clash]:
 > Do you just want to target developers with the alpha or anyone who wants
 to try out the newest features/fixes before they're added to the stable
 version and give feedback? If users who want to live on the bleeding edge
 and are happy to provide early feedback are a target too then just the
 'developer' terminology may not be as apt.

 It's anyone that wants to help us find issues in features/fixes that might
 make it to the (next) stable release. At least until we have a proper
 nightly channel set up. Once we are there we could think about splitting
 up that group further and tailor the series even better.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  tbb-mobile, ux-team   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Comment (by clash):

 Do you just want to target developers with the alpha or anyone who wants
 to try out the newest features/fixes before they're added to the stable
 version and give feedback? If users who want to live on the bleeding edge
 and are happy to provide early feedback are a target too then just the
 'developer' terminology may not be as apt.

 Also, removing alpha might be cool since right now it reads "Tor Browser
 (Alpha) (Beta)" on the Play Store :)

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  tbb-mobile, ux-team   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Changes (by antonela):

 * cc: steph (added)


Comment:

 Based on what we talked last week, I made two options to handle this
 issue.

 1. Dialog Box - https://www.material.io/design/components/dialogs.html

 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/30540/1.png

 hellais suggested to do it in two steps by first asking users if they are
 developers and if they reply NO, then recommend them to download the
 stable app. I approached this version to solve this with one step. In this
 way, when users click [download stable], we open the Tor Browser stable
 download page.

 2. First Screen

 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/30540/2.png

 If we consider that we should block the entire screen for this action, we
 could use a full-screen option. It should show before the onboarding on
 new users and one/two times on recurrent users.


 We should update the description at Google Play too, so we don't have new
 users downloading the Alpha version by error. It is most urgent, imo. I'm
 adding steph because we need wording for this.

 Also, Google Play calls developer versions as `Beta`. Should we attach to
 gplay standards and replace `Alpha` for `Beta` in mobiles?

 We need a funnel for this and define which releases will contain this
 prompt. Also, what is the % of users we expect to move? Will we remove the
 prompt once we achieve it?

 If we succeed on the moving, users will still have two versions of TBA
 installed in their devices. Can we do something to prevent users to
 successfully download the stable app but still use the alpha one as
 default?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  tbb-mobile, ux-team   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Changes (by antonela):

 * Attachment "1.png" added.


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Re: [tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  tbb-mobile, ux-team   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
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Changes (by antonela):

 * Attachment "2.png" added.


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Re: [tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  tbb-mobile, ux-team   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Changes (by antonela):

 * keywords:  tbb-mobile => tbb-mobile, ux-team


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[tor-bugs] #30540 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable

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#30540: Give TBA alpha users a link to stable
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 Reporter:  sysrqb|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal|   Keywords:  tbb-mobile
Actual Points:|  Parent ID:
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 GeKo mentioned we should tell current Tor Browser alpha users on Android
 there is now a stable version they can use. This seems wise.

 Should we add this into the onboarding panels or should this be included
 on `about:tor`? It seems we should use the same download links here as
 discussed on #29955.

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