Re: [tor-bugs] #31154 [Circumvention/Snowflake]: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP addresses?

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#31154: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP
addresses?
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 Reporter:  subscriptionblocker  |  Owner:  (none)
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Circumvention/Snowflake  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  not a bug
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by dcf):

 * status:  needs_information => closed
 * resolution:   => not a bug


Comment:

 I think the short answer is: don't worry about making your IP address
 change. If you have a fixed residential IP address, just run a snowflake.
 If some censors find your IP address and block you, that's fine, there are
 other censors that won't block you, so you can still be useful. The model
 is based around the idea that snowflakes (individually) do not need to be
 hard to block.

 And if you set something up so that your IP address ''does'' change, I
 don't think that will cause a problem with any other part of the system.
 Like cohosh says, each interaction with the broker will use whatever your
 current IP address happens to be.

 Cross-linking the Reddit discussion:
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/ccsamd/ideas_for_hosting_tor_snowflake_bridges_with/

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31154 [Circumvention/Snowflake]: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP addresses?

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#31154: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP
addresses?
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 Reporter:  subscriptionblocker  |  Owner:  (none)
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Circumvention/Snowflake  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by cohosh):

 Replying to [comment:4 cypherpunks]:
 > Replying to [comment:3 cohosh]:
 > He's talking about snowflake proxies and not the hardcoded bridge, he's
 looking for
 >
 > > Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake proxies with changing residential IP
 addresses?
 In that case, it should just work out of the box for snowflake proxies to
 be run on machines with dynamic IP addresses. The ICE candidate gathering
 happens each time a proxy receives a client offer, and so if the proxy's
 IP address has changed since the last time their local candidates should
 match the new IP without any changes on our side.

 I'm going to wait a few days to hear back from subscriptionblocker before
 closing the ticket.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31154 [Circumvention/Snowflake]: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP addresses?

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#31154: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP
addresses?
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 Reporter:  subscriptionblocker  |  Owner:  (none)
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Circumvention/Snowflake  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by cypherpunks):

 Replying to [comment:3 cohosh]:
 > I don't completely understand the details of this ticket, but it seems
 to be concerning the fact that we only have a single snowflake bridge, the
 domain of this bridge is hard-coded into snowflake proxies, and that the
 bridge has a fixed IP address that doesn't change?
 >
 > There's a possibly related ticket to running more than one snowflake
 bridge: #28651
 >
 > With respect to bridge(s) that have static, fixed IP addresses, can you
 state more clearly what kind of problem you are trying to solve? For
 example, from a censorship perspective, blocking the bridge IP address
 shouldn't cause problems for snowflake since clients connect through the
 bridge to proxies. If we're worried about a takedown request of the bridge
 by the jurisdiction in which it is located, I'm not sure how a rotating IP
 will solve that problem without also changing its jurisdiction (which
 might be helped by running more than one bridge)?
 He's talking about snowflake proxies and not the hardcoded bridge, he's
 looking for

 > Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake proxies with changing residential IP
 addresses?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31154 [Circumvention/Snowflake]: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP addresses?

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#31154: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP
addresses?
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 Reporter:  subscriptionblocker  |  Owner:  (none)
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Circumvention/Snowflake  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by cohosh):

 * status:  new => needs_information


Comment:

 I don't completely understand the details of this ticket, but it seems to
 be concerning the fact that we only have a single snowflake bridge, the
 domain of this bridge is hard-coded into snowflake proxies, and that the
 bridge has a fixed IP address that doesn't change?

 There's a possibly related ticket to running more than one snowflake
 bridge: #28651

 With respect to bridge(s) that have static, fixed IP addresses, can you
 state more clearly what kind of problem you are trying to solve? For
 example, from a censorship perspective, blocking the bridge IP address
 shouldn't cause problems for snowflake since clients connect through the
 bridge to proxies. If we're worried about a takedown request of the bridge
 by the jurisdiction in which it is located, I'm not sure how a rotating IP
 will solve that problem without also changing its jurisdiction (which
 might be helped by running more than one bridge)?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31154 [Circumvention/Snowflake]: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP addresses?

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#31154: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP
addresses?
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 Reporter:  subscriptionblocker  |  Owner:  (none)
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Circumvention/Snowflake  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by dcf):

 * cc: arlolra, cohosh, dcf, phw (added)


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Re: [tor-bugs] #31154 [Circumvention/Snowflake]: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP addresses?

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#31154: Ideas for hosting Tor Snowflake bridges with changing residential IP
addresses?
-+
 Reporter:  subscriptionblocker  |  Owner:  (none)
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Circumvention/Snowflake  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by nickm):

 * component:  Core Tor => Circumvention/Snowflake


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