Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Indeed, that's weird. I've opened #31725, thanks.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by Zarko_Gjurov):

 Tor Browser 9.0 Alpha 6 does not use all localization files, except the
 Connecting window all other strings on welcome page and menus instead on
 Macedonian are on English!

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by boklm):

 Commit 7393339e1d9a569f4f57a98c3cd06aaffa6063f0 on the website is adding
 the mk locale for Tor Browser alpha:
 
https://gitweb.torproject.org/project/web/tpo.git/commit/?id=7393339e1d9a569f4f57a98c3cd06aaffa6063f0

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:17 Zarko_Gjurov]:
 > Since Firefox ESR for Desktop is available on Macedonian (MK) language
 for following platforms:
 > - Windows 64-bit
 > - Windows 32-bit
 > - macOS
 > - Linux 64-bit
 > - Linux 32-bit
 >
 > Does that mean that in Tor version 9.0 MK locale for TOR Browser for
 Desktop will be released (yes or no)?

 If we don't find any blocking issues while testing in the alpha series,
 then yes.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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#30468: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by Zarko_Gjurov):

 Since Firefox ESR for Desktop is available on Macedonian (MK) language for
 following platforms:
 - Windows 64-bit
 - Windows 32-bit
 - macOS
 - Linux 64-bit
 - Linux 32-bit

 Does that mean that in Tor version 9.0 MK locale for TOR Browser for
 Desktop will be released (yes or no)?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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#30468: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:15 Zarko_Gjurov]:
 > According to e-mail from **Delphine Lebédel from Mozilla** dated from
 Jul 6, 2019:
 > “Concerning the localization of Firefox for Android: we have not been
 adding new locales for a few months now which is why you can not request
 it on Pontoon. In fact, we are transitioning to the Fenix browser, and it
 makes no sense to start localizations now since it's a huge project that
 takes approximately at least 6 months to translate, and a year to reach
 release. By the time localization is complete, Firefox for Android will
 most surely not exist anymore.
 > Since Firefox for Android won't be here for much longer, I'm not really
 sure this effort still makes sense.”
 >
 > So can you explain me what will happen with Macedonian translation for
 Tor according to this statement of Mozilla’s officials?
 >
 > Keeping in mind that Tor MK translations were fully ready since last
 October, 2018, will be very unprofessional MK localization not to be
 published as final product.
 >
 > So as I see Tor for Android will stay on EN-US while there will be
 Macedonian Tor bundle for Desktop released together with all other
 languages in v9.0, am I right, or?

 I think that is correct, yes. We are dependent on Mozilla for providing
 translations of all non-Tor Browser-strings (which take up the vast
 majority of browser strings). If those are not available we can't ship a
 bundle in the respective locale.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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#30468: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by Zarko_Gjurov):

 According to e-mail from **Delphine Lebédel from Mozilla** dated from Jul
 6, 2019:
 “Concerning the localization of Firefox for Android: we have not been
 adding new locales for a few months now which is why you can not request
 it on Pontoon. In fact, we are transitioning to the Fenix browser, and it
 makes no sense to start localizations now since it's a huge project that
 takes approximately at least 6 months to translate, and a year to reach
 release. By the time localization is complete, Firefox for Android will
 most surely not exist anymore.
 Since Firefox for Android won't be here for much longer, I'm not really
 sure this effort still makes sense.”

 So can you explain me what will happen with Macedonian translation for Tor
 according to this statement of Mozilla’s officials?

 Keeping in mind that Tor MK translations were fully ready since last
 October, 2018, will be very unprofessional MK localization not to be
 published as final product.

 So as I see Tor for Android will stay on EN-US while there will be
 Macedonian Tor bundle for Desktop released together with all other
 languages in v9.0, am I right, or?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  closed
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by gk):

 * status:  needs_review => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 Thanks for the review and the improved patch! I took yours for `tor-
 browser-build` (commit f16f8734b4834eaccd4d2c9dc018084f766b60f9) and
 merged the other patches to their respective repos (`tor-launcher` commit
 397253580d87f74447fe150f7336edcf4d816c79 and `torbutton` commit
 171b482609c7b8dc644150f4e83900bac715f071).

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by boklm):

 Replying to [comment:12 gk]:
 > Alright, here come patches in three of my user repos up for review:
 >
 > 1) `torbutton`: `bug_30468_v4`
 (https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/gk/torbutton.git/log/?h=bug_30468_v4)

 This looks good to me.

 > 2) `tor-launcher`: `bug_30468_v2` (https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/gk
 /tor-
 
launcher.git/commit/?h=bug_30468_v2=397253580d87f74447fe150f7336edcf4d816c79)

 This looks good to me.

 > 3) `tor-browser-build`: `bug_30468_v2
 (https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/gk/tor-browser-
 build.git/commit/?h=bug_30468_v2=27cd99e5978b3fe9db53ebecec5b97a3cd809c28)
 (thanks to boklm for the help here!)

 This looks good to me. Although I misunderstood when talked about it on
 IRC, and was thinking that mk was for android only (instead of desktop
 only). Here is an alternative version of the patch that is a little more
 simple, skipping mk on android:
 https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/boklm/tor-browser-
 build.git/commit/?h=bug_30468=7b1c46d3649c20c91d4e33529412301e96ce2a0f

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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#30468: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  enhancement  | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  localization,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907   |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by gk):

 * keywords:  localization, TorBrowserTeam201906, GeorgKoppen201907 =>
 localization, TorBrowserTeam201907R, GeorgKoppen201907
 * status:  new => needs_review


Comment:

 Alright, here come patches in three of my user repos up for review:

 1) `torbutton`: `bug_30468_v4`
 (https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/gk/torbutton.git/log/?h=bug_30468_v4)
 2) `tor-launcher`: `bug_30468_v2` (https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/gk
 /tor-
 
launcher.git/commit/?h=bug_30468_v2=397253580d87f74447fe150f7336edcf4d816c79)
 3) `tor-browser-build`: `bug_30468_v2
 (https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/gk/tor-browser-
 build.git/commit/?h=bug_30468_v2=27cd99e5978b3fe9db53ebecec5b97a3cd809c28)
 (thanks to boklm for the help here!)

 FWIW as I said there is no mobile translation available, thus there won't
 be support for `mk` on mobile. Moreover, the onboarding extenion is not
 translated into `mk` either. Thus, all the strings from Firefox we use on
 desktop for our onboarding will be in `en-US` in a `mk` bundle.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  enhancement  | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905, localization,  |  Actual Points:
  GeorgKoppen201905  |
Parent ID:  #29935   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by gk):

 * keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905, localization => TorBrowserTeam201905,
 localization, GeorgKoppen201905


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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium  |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905, localization  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #29935  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Comment (by emmapeel):

 Replying to [comment:5 Zarko_Gjurov]:

 > I want to inform you that, all Macedonian translations needed for TOR
 are fully updated, translated and reviewed (only excluding Tails).

 hi Zarko:

 It would be great if you can also translate the Tor Browser User Manual
 and the Support Portal, which are resources needed by users with no
 English knowledge.

 Thanks for your efforts, and your patience!

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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#30468: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series
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 Reporter:  gk  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium  |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905, localization  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #29935  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:5 Zarko_Gjurov]:
 > Hi there,
 >
 > I am one of the translators and reviewers for Macedonian on Tor at
 Transifex.
 >
 > I want to inform you that, all Macedonian translations needed for TOR
 are fully updated, translated and reviewed (only excluding Tails).
 >
 > Also **DTD TBA - Tor Browser for Android** resource on Transifex is 100%
 translated and 100% reviewed, so there is a MK for mobile.

 Yes, I saw that, thanks. What I meant was that *Mozilla* is shipping no mk
 strings, thus we can't ship a mobile mk Tor Browser either and need to
 route around that in our build scripts which assume that all locales are
 available in all platforms.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium  |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905, localization  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #29935  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Comment (by Zarko_Gjurov):

 Hi there,

 I am one of the translators and reviewers for Macedonian on Tor at
 Transifex.

 I want to inform you that, all Macedonian translations needed for TOR are
 fully updated, translated and reviewed (only excluding Tails).

 Also **DTD TBA - Tor Browser for Android** resource on Transifex is 100%
 translated and 100% reviewed, so there is a MK for mobile.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium  |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905, localization  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #29935  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Okay, it turns out there is no `mk` for mobile which is unfortunate and
 complicates things. I am not sure how we want to handle this situation. I
 guess, just ship for desktop then? Either way that won't be ready for
 9.0a1 then, alas.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk  |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium  |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905, localization  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #29935  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Changes (by emmapeel):

 * cc: emmapeel (added)
 * keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905 => TorBrowserTeam201905, localization


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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series

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 Reporter:  gk|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #29935| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Old description:

> The macedonian translation is in good shape it seems. Let's ship a
> makedonian Tor Browser in our alpha series.

New description:

 The macedonian translation is in good shape it seems. Let's ship a
 macedonian Tor Browser in our alpha series.

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Comment (by arma):

 (one more typo fix)

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Re: [tor-bugs] #30468 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series (was: Ship makedonian Tor Browser in alpha series)

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#30468: Ship macedonian Tor Browser in alpha series
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 Reporter:  gk|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201905  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #29935| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
--+--
Description changed by gk:

Old description:

> The makedonian translation is in good shape it seems. Let's ship a
> makedonian Tor Browser in our alpha series.

New description:

 The macedonian translation is in good shape it seems. Let's ship a
 makedonian Tor Browser in our alpha series.

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