Re: [tor-relays] Building on a Udoo Dual

2013-11-17 Thread Richard Budd
Thanks for the reply Andy.
I'll try changing the sources.list first.
If that doesn't work I found the armel sources, so I can just compile them.

Richard


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Andy Isaacson a...@hexapodia.org wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:09:50PM -0500, Richard Budd wrote:
  Does anyone know if the Tor Project has sources for top that can be
  compiled on a Udoo Dual?
  It's running Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) on a ARMv7 processor.
  I've tried following the instructions on
  https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian, but I get an Err
  http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/ experimental-oneiric/main tor
  0.2.4.17-rc-1~oneiric+1 (dsc)
404  Not Found [IP: 38.229.72.14 80]error when trying to run the
  sudo apt-get source tor   command.

 The repo contains .dsc files for lucid, precise, quantal and raring.
 The precise dsc should be fairly close to what's necessary for oneiric,
 so if you change your sources.list entry for deb.torproject.org from
 oneiric to precise and re-run sudo apt-get update I suspect the
 apt-get source will succeed.

 BTW, since apt-get-source is just downloading files and verifying
 checksums, you don't need to run it under sudo as long as you run it in
 a directory where your regular user account has write permissions.

 Are you sure that you need to compile?  From a quick survey it appears
 that the armel debs might work just fine on the Udoo.

 -andy
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China

2013-11-17 Thread Tony Xue
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 On 11/15/2013 06:20 PM, tor-relays-requ...@lists.torproject.org wrote:
 I've heard that some ISPs in China provide uncensored network
 access to foreign companies. But this is hearsay

 You are correct but it is not that simple nor widespread.  What I've
 seen most often is execs from big companies getting special
 considerations so while uncensored might be a stretch there is some
 truth to the above.  I can find out more any time if anyone needs some
 info please contact me any time as I don't think it will be a big
 topic of discussion here:)  I have seen heavy use of VPN's by western
 students visiting, or studying in Bejing w/out issue.  I'll have very
 current info and can get some near instant feedback in the next day or
 two.

 And to the guys saying avoid the ussa like the plague  this wanna-be
 expat agrees 100%. Sadly!  And for a whole lot more than just Tor nodes.

But keep in mind that Chinese people like to do things in a tricky
way. They might say not censored network but they didn't say they're
not monitoring it.  The gov has said that they will be strict on
ideology in any situation.

I did hear about someone in a famous Finnish mobile phone company
which will belong to a US operating system making company said they
can access facebook directly but I haven't got a chance to see whether
they are using an enterprise level VPN or uncensored network.

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China

2013-11-17 Thread I
It sounds like a challenge to get a relay up in China...

Perhaps this talk might inpsire a way of helping Tor into China.

http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_anti_behind_the_great_firewall_of_china.html

Robert


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Re: [tor-relays] which aws ami?

2013-11-17 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:
 Isn't the free deal for one instance only?

Yes, it's for one instance per account (and one account counts as an
email address plus a credit card).

-- 
Runa A. Sandvik
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[tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-17 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Eric van der Vlist v...@dyomedea.com wrote:
 Without bandwidth limitation that's true. OTH, I currently consume only
 ~ 50 Gbits/month and the limit is 500 Gbits. Would a relay limited to
 let's say 200 or 300 Gbits/month still be useful for the community?

People, can we please mind using the proper units.
I know Tor doesn't make it easy because Tor itself incorrectly
uses Bytes. But Tor is a network application, and real network
apps are measured in 'bits per second', not 'bytes transferred
off disk', even if the latter is what silly hosters sell by... mostly
due to their presumed need to tie in with their typical customers
supposed Apache access_logs. But believe me, what hosters
really care about is their upstream bill in bps rate, they're just
converting that for access_log presentation to you.
Your further mixing of 'giga bits per month' doesn't help *at all*.
Please try to use 'bits per second' as the common denominator
on this (network application) list.

BTW, Gandi is historically a fairly progressive company. The
right approach could have some good wins there.
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Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-17 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:14:15AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
 People, can we please mind using the proper units.
 I know Tor doesn't make it easy because Tor itself incorrectly
 uses Bytes. But Tor is a network application, and real network
 apps are measured in 'bits per second'

I understand your perspective, but Tor is an overlay application just
like bittorrent. Tor moves bytes around. It happens that it moves the
bytes over the network, so I can see why you would call it a network
application. But by your definition I claim it is not. :)

That said, yes, always say the whole unit. Do not assume that anybody
knows what you mean when you say 'b'. No matter what you mean, there
will always be somebody who is certain of what you mean yet is wrong.

--Roger

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