Re: [tor-relays] Huge harrassment by Irdeto and IP-Echelon, 83 mails, in 2 weeks, need your help

2013-11-19 Thread julien . robin28
Hello everybody,

Just to keep you informed - and to tell you that my case may probably now be 
considered as "solved"

-I decided to put a Reduced Exit Policy: if my ISP already transmitted to me 83 
abuses notifications in 2 weeks without cutting down my servers, the few abuses 
notifications that will happen with Reduced Exit Policy will be OK.

-I didn't have any answer by my ISP :( as if they absolutely don't care of 
nothing, or don’t have enough time. It sounds like I will never know their 
feeling about my exit nodes! With no hope of any clear agreement with my ISP, 
it will probably not be reasonable for me to put a Full Exit Policy on my 
servers without taking the risk to lose them soon or late. But to let Irdeto 
and IP-Echelon spams to win and trample on our common freedom is a little bit 
exasperating!

My 2 "ArachnideFR35" servers will now probably come back to their previous 
bandwidth (12200KB/s and 3800KB/s) in the following days and weeks. (But with a 
little bit less available ports!)


Thank you very much for all your mails and advices ;)
Stay motivated!

Best regards to all,
Julien ROBIN


- Mail original -
De: "Martin Kepplinger" 
À: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Envoyé: Mardi 19 Novembre 2013 12:57:50
Objet: Re: [tor-relays] Huge harrassment by Irdeto and IP-Echelon, 83 mails, in 
2 weeks, need your help

julien.robi...@free.fr:
> Hello krishna,
> 
> I agree with you as I also think that the approach you describes (your ISP 
> transmit to you, almost "don't care" and just want you to do the job and copy 
> to them) is so much better :) and I really think my ISP is trying to work 
> like that.
> 
> There was absolutely no remarks or whatever else in the mails they 
> transmitted to me. In their terms and conditions it's just written that they 
> have to be able to see the mail exchanges, so that they know when the problem 
> is solved.
> 
> But there was so many messages they received during the last 3-day week end, 
> so many that they haven't been able to transmit all of them on the begining 
> of the week (there was a 3 day hole betwen November 7 and November 11 on the 
> mails they was transmitting to me on November 13. 
> And, they started to transmit me in the morning and in the evening it was 
> still not finished ! This last detail was the alarm signal for me, that's 
> when I realized that it was going straight into a pricipice. I also realized 
> that these abuse complaints weren't going to stop, even with my efforts by 
> sending mails to Irdeto and IP-Echelon.
> 
> 
> 
> To keep you informed :
> 
> I just sent to my ISP the mail as we said (sum-up) :
> 
>   - I'm ok if they calculate a more suitable price for my intensive use of 
> their services, 
>   - I also explained them that Irdeto/IP-Echelon abuses can be ignored in my 
> case :  the IP address on the reports are not the address of the responsible 
> user. These 2 companies just never stops to send an unconscionable amount of 
> email to put pressure, because sometimes, unfortunately, it works (and it's 
> bad when it works !) and they never read our answers. I told them that some 
> ISP already decided to blackhole these Irdeto/IP-Echelon notifications in a 
> similar case.
> 
> 
> I will now be waiting for them to answer, but as I know them, I'm not 
> completely sure to have my answer, and in the better case, probably not 
> before Monday (11/18/2013). 
> 
> I'm re-starting my servers as only relays for this week end (to be sure that 
> no abuse complaint could flood my ISP, so they will be able to see my email 
> !) and if my ISP does not answer, Reduced Exit Policy will be my only 
> suitable solution.
> 
> I will keep you informed!
> Thank you again for all your help and remarks, and sorry when my answers are 
> very late (too large working days) 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Julien ROBIN
> 

thanks for posting. even if it's unfortunate for you that's encouraging
to read.

> - Mail original -
> De: "krishna e bera" 
> À: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Envoyé: Jeudi 14 Novembre 2013 21:13:11
> Objet: Re: [tor-relays] Huge harrassment by Irdeto and IP-Echelon, 83 mails, 
> in 2 weeks, need your help
> 
> I would prefer to receive a lot of such abuse complaints, forwarded
> unfiltered, than to let the ISP cut off the relay.  At least that way
> they are passing on the responsibility closer to the source of the
> problem (that they know of), rather than making decisions over which the
> relay operator has no control.
> The question is, are they giving you deadlines to handle all those
> complaints? or is it entirely between you and the complainant?
> 
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[tor-relays] Apologies for the email about Sugarcube

2013-11-19 Thread Sriakhil Gogineni
Hello all,

I'm very sorry about an email that went out yesterday that some of you 
received. It was only supposed to go to my contacts, around 2000 people. I 
exported my contacts and removed all mailing lists from the pool but it seems 
some people who were cc'd on threads got added in.

It seems I have deeply offended about a dozen of you and for that I'm sorry. I 
know how precious inbox sanity is and I did not intend to spam anyone -- this 
email was only supposed to go to family and friends. Rest assured there is no 
'list' and you will not be receiving any future email from me regarding 
Sugarcube.

Best,
Sri

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Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-19 Thread krishna e bera
On 13-11-18 07:28 PM, grarpamp wrote:
> A proper IEC gibibyte = GiB = 2^30 = 1024^3 = 1073741824
>  for data storage, ram (binary bit handling)
> A proper SI gigabyte = GB = 1E9 = 1000^3 = 10
>  for data transmission (packet counting, rocketships)
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8
> http://www.swedeteam.com/kibi/
> 
> Thugh they may break your broken tradition, there are
> current standards now, please use them.

The tradition may be broken but it has roots, just as feet and inches
and acres came from real human practices.  Some of us "grew up with"
that stuff and it is going to be a pain to unlearn, for example, that a
KB is 1024 bytes.  Indeed this is the first i heard that anyone changed
the definitions.

Anyway, as long as Tor docs are clear what definitions are being used i
think we can all get along fine.  Suggest we add reference URLs to Tor docs.
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Re: [tor-relays] Huge harrassment by Irdeto and IP-Echelon, 83 mails, in 2 weeks, need your help

2013-11-19 Thread Martin Kepplinger
julien.robi...@free.fr:
> Hello krishna,
> 
> I agree with you as I also think that the approach you describes (your ISP 
> transmit to you, almost "don't care" and just want you to do the job and copy 
> to them) is so much better :) and I really think my ISP is trying to work 
> like that.
> 
> There was absolutely no remarks or whatever else in the mails they 
> transmitted to me. In their terms and conditions it's just written that they 
> have to be able to see the mail exchanges, so that they know when the problem 
> is solved.
> 
> But there was so many messages they received during the last 3-day week end, 
> so many that they haven't been able to transmit all of them on the begining 
> of the week (there was a 3 day hole betwen November 7 and November 11 on the 
> mails they was transmitting to me on November 13. 
> And, they started to transmit me in the morning and in the evening it was 
> still not finished ! This last detail was the alarm signal for me, that's 
> when I realized that it was going straight into a pricipice. I also realized 
> that these abuse complaints weren't going to stop, even with my efforts by 
> sending mails to Irdeto and IP-Echelon.
> 
> 
> 
> To keep you informed :
> 
> I just sent to my ISP the mail as we said (sum-up) :
> 
>   - I'm ok if they calculate a more suitable price for my intensive use of 
> their services, 
>   - I also explained them that Irdeto/IP-Echelon abuses can be ignored in my 
> case :  the IP address on the reports are not the address of the responsible 
> user. These 2 companies just never stops to send an unconscionable amount of 
> email to put pressure, because sometimes, unfortunately, it works (and it's 
> bad when it works !) and they never read our answers. I told them that some 
> ISP already decided to blackhole these Irdeto/IP-Echelon notifications in a 
> similar case.
> 
> 
> I will now be waiting for them to answer, but as I know them, I'm not 
> completely sure to have my answer, and in the better case, probably not 
> before Monday (11/18/2013). 
> 
> I'm re-starting my servers as only relays for this week end (to be sure that 
> no abuse complaint could flood my ISP, so they will be able to see my email 
> !) and if my ISP does not answer, Reduced Exit Policy will be my only 
> suitable solution.
> 
> I will keep you informed!
> Thank you again for all your help and remarks, and sorry when my answers are 
> very late (too large working days) 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Julien ROBIN
> 

thanks for posting. even if it's unfortunate for you that's encouraging
to read.

> - Mail original -
> De: "krishna e bera" 
> À: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Envoyé: Jeudi 14 Novembre 2013 21:13:11
> Objet: Re: [tor-relays] Huge harrassment by Irdeto and IP-Echelon, 83 mails, 
> in 2 weeks, need your help
> 
> I would prefer to receive a lot of such abuse complaints, forwarded
> unfiltered, than to let the ISP cut off the relay.  At least that way
> they are passing on the responsibility closer to the source of the
> problem (that they know of), rather than making decisions over which the
> relay operator has no control.
> The question is, are they giving you deadlines to handle all those
> complaints? or is it entirely between you and the complainant?
> 
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