Re: [tor-relays] OnionTip.com distributes Bitcoin donations to all BTC addresses set in ContactInfo

2014-08-14 Thread Mike Cardwell
That depends entirely on how much people donate. At the bottom
of their front page it currently states that 335.26 mBTC have
been donated so far. Ie, a third of a bitcoin. It's impossible
to predict how much might be donated in future.

On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin
address in a config file to find out.

Mike

* on the Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 05:23:27PM -0700, IceFish wrote:
 How much does it actually pay out? Like is it worth it? I run a fairly slow 
 small node
 
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  On Aug 13, 2014, at 17:05, Mike Patton m_pat...@me.com wrote:
  
  
  On 14 Aug 2014 08:34, Ed Carter ecart...@riseup.net wrote:
  
  Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33: 
  On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, b...@unseen.is wrote: 
  Hi, 
  
  apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, 
  Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin 
  Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all 
  Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and 
  distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight. 
  
  There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of 
  the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed 
  around 125 US$. 
  
  There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to 
  tor relay operators (see 
  https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-par-braids-lira-tears-and-torcoin)
  but I really like this very simple and practical approach. 
  
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  I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my 
  nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to 
  offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of 
  donating to a specific person or organization. 
  
  My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it 
  would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to 
  make it resemble the current Tor network better.
  
  I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total 
  exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend 
  adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was 
  distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent 
  oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc. 
  
  Tom 
  
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  Agreed, this is pretty awesome.  It allows independent relay operators to 
  receive donations no matter where they are in the world whether or not 
  they are affiliated with any group. 
  
  The donations are transparent, since the money can be followed on the 
  Bitcoin blockchain to ensure that your donation made it to the individual 
  addresses of the relay operators. 
  
  
  
  
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  I like it! I've already made AUD $0.05!!! ;)
  
  M.
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Re: [tor-relays] OnionTip.com distributes Bitcoin donations to all BTC addresses set in ContactInfo

2014-08-14 Thread Alexander Dietrich

On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:


On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin
address in a config file to find out.


Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make it 
a commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different 
legal position?


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Re: [tor-relays] OnionTip.com distributes Bitcoin donations to all BTC addresses set in ContactInfo

2014-08-14 Thread threehundredthirtytwofishes
Good point...

Sent from my iPhone

On Thursday, August 14, 2014, Alexander Dietrich alexan...@dietrich.cx
wrote:

 On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:

  On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin
 address in a config file to find out.


 Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make it a
 commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different legal
 position?

 Best regards,
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Re: [tor-relays] OnionTip.com distributes Bitcoin donations to all BTC addresses set in ContactInfo

2014-08-14 Thread blahu77 .
I was thinking about it and I will stick torproject's wallet  -
1K7P2FovDXyyEuZc87YUgPtmR34P62MYmn
from:  https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate.html.en 
https://bitpay.com/invoice?id=XzYL2D1neP496n79LyTSV4

Is that correct one?

Thanks,
-mateusz

On 14 August 2014 20:24, threehundredthirtytwofishes
threehundredthirtytwofis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good point...

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Thursday, August 14, 2014, Alexander Dietrich alexan...@dietrich.cx
 wrote:

 On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:

 On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin
 address in a config file to find out.


 Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make it a
 commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different legal
 position?

 Best regards,
 Alexander
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Re: [tor-relays] OnionTip.com distributes Bitcoin donations to all BTC addresses set in ContactInfo

2014-08-14 Thread IceFish ThreeTwo
Looks like it. Does this only apply for exit nodes?

On Thursday, August 14, 2014, blahu77 . blah...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking about it and I will stick torproject's wallet  -
 1K7P2FovDXyyEuZc87YUgPtmR34P62MYmn
 from:  https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate.html.en 
 https://bitpay.com/invoice?id=XzYL2D1neP496n79LyTSV4

 Is that correct one?

 Thanks,
 -mateusz

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  Good point...
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Thursday, August 14, 2014, Alexander Dietrich alexan...@dietrich.cx
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  wrote:
 
  On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:
 
  On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin
  address in a config file to find out.
 
 
  Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make
 it a
  commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different
 legal
  position?
 
  Best regards,
  Alexander
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Re: [tor-relays] OnionTip.com distributes Bitcoin donations to all BTC addresses set in ContactInfo

2014-08-14 Thread Tim
On 14 Aug 2014, at 22:00, Alexander wrote:

 On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:
 
 On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin
 address in a config file to find out.
 
 Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make it 
 a commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different 
 legal position?
 
 Best regards,
 Alexander

Also not being a lawyer, if BTC isn't legal tender in your country (if such a 
concept exists), are you really accepting money?

Tim
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