[tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-01 Thread Seth
I'm standing up a new exit relay on the VULTR network. How would a person  
go about determining which location is in most need of additional exit  
relay capacity?


Available locations: https://www.vultr.com/locations/

* Miami, Florida
* Chicago, Illinois
* New York / New Jersey
* Dallas, Texas
* Seattle, Washington
* Atlanta, Georgia
* Los Angeles, California
* Silicon Valley, California
* (AU) Sydney, Australia
* (Asia) Tokyo, Japan
* (EU) Amsterdam, NL
* (EU) London, UK
* (EU) Paris, France
* (EU) Frankfurt, DE


Also, curious to hear people's thoughts on any potential jurisdictional  
arbitrage benefits to be gleaned by choosing a location other than ones  
country of residence or citizenship.


For the sake of argument, consider a VULTR account opened by U.S. citizen  
residing in the U.S. Choopa LLC (VULTR parent company) is also a US based  
company. http://start.cortera.com/company/research/k5o8lvm2j/choopa-llc/

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Re: [tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-01 Thread nusenu
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Hi Seth,

 I'm standing up a new exit relay on the VULTR network. How would a 
 person go about determining which location is in most need of
 additional exit relay capacity?

thanks for taking network diversity into account when setting up new
relays!

It might be oversimplified but using compass with group by country
ordered by consensus weight (or in your case exit probability) shows
you where most of tor network capacity is currently located. The goal
is to setup relays in new or rarely used locations.

So by using compass your list would look like this, ordered from
better to less good:

* (AU) Sydney, Australia (0.01% CW)
* (Asia) Tokyo, Japan (0.8% CW)
* UK (4.6% CW)
* US (10.1%)
* NL (12.4% CW)
* France (21.6%)
* DE (25.7% CW)
Note: the is a current snapshot and numbers change but AU or JP is
better then DE (from a capacity divers. point of view) - this will
also be the case in a week or a month.

You might also want to consider the exit probability and use that in
addition or instead of CW.

I don't know if VULTR has multiple ASes but if they do you might also
want to have a look at the group by AS results (if they allow you to
choose).


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Re: [tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-01 Thread Seth

On Fri, 01 May 2015 10:01:45 -0700, nusenu nus...@openmailbox.org wrote:

It might be oversimplified but using compass with group by country
ordered by consensus weight (or in your case exit probability) shows
you where most of tor network capacity is currently located. The goal
is to setup relays in new or rarely used locations.

So by using compass your list would look like this, ordered from
better to less good:

* (AU) Sydney, Australia (0.01% CW)
* (Asia) Tokyo, Japan (0.8% CW)
* UK (4.6% CW)
* US (10.1%)
* NL (12.4% CW)
* France (21.6%)
* DE (25.7% CW)
Note: the is a current snapshot and numbers change but AU or JP is
better then DE (from a capacity divers. point of view) - this will
also be the case in a week or a month.

You might also want to consider the exit probability and use that in
addition or instead of CW.

I don't know if VULTR has multiple ASes but if they do you might also
want to have a look at the group by AS results (if they allow you to
choose).


Thanks for the breakdown, that helps. The only hitch with the Sydney and  
Toyko locations is that instead of 1000GB/mo of bandwidth, you only get  
200GB/mo.


Would it be better (all things considered) to go with the UK location at  
1000GB/mo vs Tokyo or Sydney at 200GB/mo?

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