Re: [tor-relays] Cheap exit-friedly VPS provider
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:35:28 -0700 Alexey Nayden alexey.nay...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions: 1. Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or 20+ TB of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7. 2. If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly good enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml) I can't say for exits, but I use the OVH Classic VPS ($2.99/mo) to run one of my relays. It's not an exit node. I let them know about it and paid a year in advance. No problems whatsoever with them thus far. pgp0SG24fcsbD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Cheap exit-friedly VPS provider
Hello, I'm planning on starting an exit relay at instantservers [1]. They wrote me that they are OK with tor exit nodes, but you are supposed to answer abuse mails within 24h. Maybe anyone else already has some experience with instantservers? server4you also seems to be very cheap...so what happend with the False exit abuse from server4you a few days ago? cheers! [1] https://www.instantservers.eu/kvm1.php On 09.06.2015 18:28, Andrej Manduch wrote: Hi Alexey-san, I'm running tor exit relay on VPS from amerinoc and they didn't seems to have problem with that. I mentioned that when I asked them to change abuse e-mail for ip-address and they were ok with that. However I would definitly recommend you to take look at this list: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs I also heard that https://hosting.wedos.com/en/ are very tor friendly and they're really cheap (about 100 bucks/year). On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:35:28 -0700 Alexey Nayden alexey.nay...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions: 1. Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or 20+ TB of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7. 2. If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly good enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml) I can't say for exits, but I use the OVH Classic VPS ($2.99/mo) to run one of my relays. It's not an exit node. I let them know about it and paid a year in advance. No problems whatsoever with them thus far. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Cheap exit-friedly VPS provider
Hi Alexey-san, I'm running tor exit relay on VPS from amerinoc and they didn't seems to have problem with that. I mentioned that when I asked them to change abuse e-mail for ip-address and they were ok with that. However I would definitly recommend you to take look at this list: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs I also heard that https://hosting.wedos.com/en/ are very tor friendly and they're really cheap (about 100 bucks/year). On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:35:28 -0700 Alexey Nayden alexey.nay...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions: 1. Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or 20+ TB of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7. 2. If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly good enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml) I can't say for exits, but I use the OVH Classic VPS ($2.99/mo) to run one of my relays. It's not an exit node. I let them know about it and paid a year in advance. No problems whatsoever with them thus far. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays -- Kind regards, b. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Cheap exit-friedly VPS provider
I've got a few relays with PulseServers as well. I really like them. I've spoken to the owner Kyle quite a few times. I accepted that he is a reseller of OVH, reluctantly, because their abuse department are fuc... Nevermind. You could try opticservers.com, based in the UK. I have a few relays with them. The owner Joe is also very nice. From what I understand, it is all his own equipment, so no OVH. 100mbit/s unmetered at ~$7USD (it's in British currency, so whatever the conversion rate is for £4). I wouldn't suggest the 256MB ram, go for 512/1024. If you must go with OVH, then I'd suggest buying a $3 vps as well, and don't run a relay on it (keep at least 1 vps clean). I lost 11 annual-subscription relays because all of the relays were blacklisted, and that was enough for them to claim the following verbatim: Your account was suspended because 100% of your IPs are blacklisted on multiples lists for Spam and other malicious activities. This case is closed and this decision is final. I checked all of the relays. DanTor reported Tor relays, CBL aggregates from DanTor, SpamHaus Zen aggregates from CBL, and those were the only blacklists any of my relays were on. Of course, I repeatedly contacted them prior to spending all of my money on annual subscriptions to make sure it was okay, and I have the emails telling me they support it, and they even commented on how important these types of projects are. But they still shut down all of my relays and kept all of my money. Matt Speak Freely ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Cheap exit-friedly VPS provider
I have an exit on Wedos since April and so far things have been well. I receive the usual abuse/hacking/nastiness complaint and respond politely within 72 hour. The only issue is on Atlas the exit doesn't yet have exit flag, but I am assuming this is down to bwauth issue etc etc. Will happily recommend. S On 9 Jun 2015, at 17:28, Andrej Manduch amand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alexey-san, I'm running tor exit relay on VPS from amerinoc and they didn't seems to have problem with that. I mentioned that when I asked them to change abuse e-mail for ip-address and they were ok with that. However I would definitly recommend you to take look at this list: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs I also heard that https://hosting.wedos.com/en/ are very tor friendly and they're really cheap (about 100 bucks/year). On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:35:28 -0700 Alexey Nayden alexey.nay...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions: 1. Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or 20+ TB of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7. 2. If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly good enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml) I can't say for exits, but I use the OVH Classic VPS ($2.99/mo) to run one of my relays. It's not an exit node. I let them know about it and paid a year in advance. No problems whatsoever with them thus far. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Cheap exit-friedly VPS provider
I'm running two servers through SolarVPS and they were cool with running exits. Pre-paid $51/year per server. So far so good. https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/614FCCB06C88FA00CD6BDCF405F2552ED08FF965 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/6A40217CDB92106793F04AEBAEB3028AAB3FAD02 James On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Speak Freely when2plus2...@riseup.net wrote: I've got a few relays with PulseServers as well. I really like them. I've spoken to the owner Kyle quite a few times. I accepted that he is a reseller of OVH, reluctantly, because their abuse department are fuc... Nevermind. You could try opticservers.com, based in the UK. I have a few relays with them. The owner Joe is also very nice. From what I understand, it is all his own equipment, so no OVH. 100mbit/s unmetered at ~$7USD (it's in British currency, so whatever the conversion rate is for £4). I wouldn't suggest the 256MB ram, go for 512/1024. If you must go with OVH, then I'd suggest buying a $3 vps as well, and don't run a relay on it (keep at least 1 vps clean). I lost 11 annual-subscription relays because all of the relays were blacklisted, and that was enough for them to claim the following verbatim: Your account was suspended because 100% of your IPs are blacklisted on multiples lists for Spam and other malicious activities. This case is closed and this decision is final. I checked all of the relays. DanTor reported Tor relays, CBL aggregates from DanTor, SpamHaus Zen aggregates from CBL, and those were the only blacklists any of my relays were on. Of course, I repeatedly contacted them prior to spending all of my money on annual subscriptions to make sure it was okay, and I have the emails telling me they support it, and they even commented on how important these types of projects are. But they still shut down all of my relays and kept all of my money. Matt Speak Freely ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Cheap exit-friedly VPS provider
I was sure I'm the only Tor-exit customer of PulseServers, it's nice to know I'm not alone. I agree Kyle is very friendly and responsive. I think I'm going to try opticservers.com as well, they look pretty cheap and if you're saying they're exit-friendly as well, it sounds like a great option. Thanks for sharing this details. Kind regards, Alexey Nayden On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Speak Freely when2plus2...@riseup.net wrote: I've got a few relays with PulseServers as well. I really like them. I've spoken to the owner Kyle quite a few times. I accepted that he is a reseller of OVH, reluctantly, because their abuse department are fuc... Nevermind. You could try opticservers.com, based in the UK. I have a few relays with them. The owner Joe is also very nice. From what I understand, it is all his own equipment, so no OVH. 100mbit/s unmetered at ~$7USD (it's in British currency, so whatever the conversion rate is for £4). I wouldn't suggest the 256MB ram, go for 512/1024. If you must go with OVH, then I'd suggest buying a $3 vps as well, and don't run a relay on it (keep at least 1 vps clean). I lost 11 annual-subscription relays because all of the relays were blacklisted, and that was enough for them to claim the following verbatim: Your account was suspended because 100% of your IPs are blacklisted on multiples lists for Spam and other malicious activities. This case is closed and this decision is final. I checked all of the relays. DanTor reported Tor relays, CBL aggregates from DanTor, SpamHaus Zen aggregates from CBL, and those were the only blacklists any of my relays were on. Of course, I repeatedly contacted them prior to spending all of my money on annual subscriptions to make sure it was okay, and I have the emails telling me they support it, and they even commented on how important these types of projects are. But they still shut down all of my relays and kept all of my money. Matt Speak Freely ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] More consensus weight problems
Actually I remembered a third relay having problems. On Friday last week my provider asked me to rate limit one of my relays because it was pumping a lot of data. (Unmetered does have its limits, and I fully appreciate how my provider handled it) I changed the RelayBandwidth from 100Mbit to 50Mbit, and it almost immediately went from averaging 75Mbit/each way to about 7 each way. It's consensus weight dropped like a rock. It's slowly sort of mostly kind of caught up, now in the 25-35/each way range. (I can sort of understand why it happened - the network was adjusting things to deal with the decreased capacity. But it should not have been such a dramatic drop, then the slow rise. I feel this is little more than nit-picking on my part, though.) This sort of seems to be in line with the thread: [tor-relays] BWAUTH weightings too volatile. . .twitchy https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/656E73D7D153DE93D5EEAF837D675F8F129A5006 When the consensus weight is retarded, so is my relay. Just thought I'd add that to the list. Matt Speak Freely ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] BWAUTH weightings too volatile. . .twitchy
A straightforward improvement to BWauth measurement crossed my mind. Seems likely part of the volatile, bipolar measurement issue is overfast feedback of weighting increases and the increased traffic that results. For example, a BWauth measures 8 MByte/sec of bandwidth day one and increases the assigned score to 20k. The relay's weight attracts a pile-on of new traffic and now by day three the relay measures 2 Mbyte/sec of available bandwidth due to the presence a huge amount of traffic, and the BWauth crashed the assigned value back to perhaps 10k. Thus the weight of the relay swinges wildly between two extremes. Solution is for BWauths to time- average several days of measurements, probably with a decaying weight for older samples. Ten days of samples with the oldest four assigned declining weights comes to mind as a place to start, though of course the number of days and weighting parameters should be easily adjusted. This will result in gradual shifting of BW weights assigned to relays with an equilibrium outcome rather than wild swings. Will also compensate for random sample timing where a BWauth may test a relay at a busy time on one day and a light load time the next day. Probably a downside threshold should exist and trigger the resetting of the accumulated data points to address relays that fail or deteriorate rapidly. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
