Re: [tor-relays] unflagged BAD EXIT nodes

2015-07-02 Thread starlight . 2015q2
Looking through the list of suspect
exit nodes, they fall into three
categories:

1) very low-bandwidth Window Vista
   systems running 0.2.4.21

2) recently dead/offline

3) one massive Linux exit

The (1) exits might be hacked Windows
systems, perhaps part of a botnet
--no contact given.  Seems an
easy call to mark them BAD.

The (2)s are probably offline (1)s
and so deserve to be marked BAD
as they may return.

The highly-ranked (3) with 20MB/sec
is only three months old and does
not provide contact information,
resides in the Ukraine.  Also
an easy call if you ask
me:  BAD EXIT.

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[tor-relays] unflagged BAD EXIT nodes

2015-07-02 Thread starlight . 2015q2
Could someone comment on why 15 exit nodes
discovered to be sniffing and abusing login
credentials have not been marked with the
BAD EXIT flag?

The research appears to be legitimate, involved
a good deal of effort, and seems credible:

https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions/

was blogged by Sophos, also credible

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/06/25/can-you-trust-tors-exit-nodes/

Is there an issue of trust w/r/t this
security researcher?  An issue of methodology
and/or reproducibility?  A shortage of
resources to follow up?  An investigation
attempting to identify the operators?

The researcher writes that they received a
polite reply from and was summarily ignored
with no further comment.  AND the exits
continue to steal and abuse credentials.
If true this would be contrary to the
inclusiveness generally exhibited by
the Tor Project.

IMO a likely password-stealing exit should be
marked-first, questions asked later.  If
some kind of mix-up or mistake has occurred,
a good operator should readily be able to
defend themselves and not feel ruffled
for it.

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Re: [tor-relays] More consensus weight problems

2015-07-02 Thread starlight . 2015q2
Takes a full two weeks for the
new-relay cap to be aged-out.

Patience.


At 13:33 7/2/2015 +, Speak Freely wrote:
>
>I did as s7r suggested, updated to 0.2.7.1-alpha-dev,
>and changed fingerprints.
>
>And we're still crippled by CW of 20.
>(Yes, yes, I know. The relay has gone back
>to stage 1/3 because the fingerprints changed.)

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Re: [tor-relays] More consensus weight problems

2015-07-02 Thread Speak Freely
I did as s7r suggested, updated to 0.2.7.1-alpha-dev, and changed
fingerprints.

And we're still crippled by CW of 20.

(Yes, yes, I know. The relay has gone back to stage 1/3 because the
fingerprints changed.)

Uptime: > 48 hours
Upload/download : 2.1GB, works out to a blazingly fast speed of 12.1KB/s

-
-
I just now did a 1GB speed test while running the relay.

(wget -O /dev/null
http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test1000.zip)

Length: 1073741824 (1.0G) [application/zip]
Saving to: `/dev/null'

100%[>] 1,073,741,824 14.1M/s   in 86s

2015-07-02 09:23:31 (11.9 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [1073741824/1073741824]
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Don't forget to smile!


Matt
Speak Freely


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Re: [tor-relays] Simplifying ExoneraTor

2015-07-02 Thread Joshua Lee Tucker
"So, it's as simple as changing type="text" to type="date"?

Turns out that Firefox (and hence Tor Browser) doesn't support this
yet, but it falls back to plain text nicely.

I just made that change in the mockup.

Thanks!"

Yes, it's as easy as that! The date selector also works natively on mobile
browsers, such as MobileSafari. The plaintext fallback is nice as it
supports (as you said) Tor Browser etc.

No problem, happy to help,

Joshua

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Karsten Loesing 
wrote:

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> On 02/07/15 11:45, Joshua Lee Tucker wrote:
> > Hi Karsten,
> >
> > I've made a patch to the page to add the HTML5 date components - it
> > should work nicely across the majority of browsers (maybe even all
> > with a plaintext fallback).
> >
> > I wasn't sure exactly in which format you wanted the patch, so
> > I've uploaded it to my server:
> >
> > http://tucker.wales/tor/exonerator/index.html
>
> So, it's as simple as changing type="text" to type="date"?
>
> Turns out that Firefox (and hence Tor Browser) doesn't support this
> yet, but it falls back to plain text nicely.
>
> I just made that change in the mockup.
>
> Thanks!
>
> All the best,
> Karsten
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Re: [tor-relays] Simplifying ExoneraTor

2015-07-02 Thread Karsten Loesing
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On 02/07/15 11:45, Joshua Lee Tucker wrote:
> Hi Karsten,
> 
> I've made a patch to the page to add the HTML5 date components - it
> should work nicely across the majority of browsers (maybe even all
> with a plaintext fallback).
> 
> I wasn't sure exactly in which format you wanted the patch, so
> I've uploaded it to my server:
> 
> http://tucker.wales/tor/exonerator/index.html

So, it's as simple as changing type="text" to type="date"?

Turns out that Firefox (and hence Tor Browser) doesn't support this
yet, but it falls back to plain text nicely.

I just made that change in the mockup.

Thanks!

All the best,
Karsten
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Re: [tor-relays] Simplifying ExoneraTor

2015-07-02 Thread Joshua Lee Tucker
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Hi Karsten,

I've made a patch to the page to add the HTML5 date components - it should
work nicely across the majority of browsers (maybe even all with a
plaintext fallback).

I wasn't sure exactly in which format you wanted the patch, so I've
uploaded it to my server:

http://tucker.wales/tor/exonerator/index.html

Thanks,

Josh


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On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Karsten Loesing 
wrote:

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> On 02/07/15 11:15, Jens Kubieziel wrote:
> > * Karsten Loesing schrieb am 2015-07-02 um 09:40 Uhr:
> >> Please take a look at the design mockup, maybe compare it to the
> >> existing ExoneraTor service, and let us know your thoughts.
> >
> > - I find the logo 1 quite nice. - When a user enters the date
> > field, it might be helpful when some calendar-like thingie opens.
> > So the user can jump to the right month, select the day and the
> > correct date format is automatically inserted. This might help the
> > user to insert the correct format.
>
> Great.  I think this pretty much matches what Joshua wrote and that I
> just replied to.  If there's anything else to add, please let me know.
>
> > - Another approach for wrongly entered dates could be to guess the
> > correct date. I suspect that many will make a systematic error
> > (exchanging day and month, forget to insert a leading 0 etc.). So
> > instead of just saying: »The expected date format is "-MM-DD".
> > Example: "2015-03-24"« it might be more helpful to say: »Did you
> > mean 2015-03-24?« where the date is a link to
> > https://exonerator.torproject.org/?ip=82.220.3.99×tamp=2015-03-24
>
> I
> >
> like this idea.  We can totally try out a few other date formats.
> Added to the mockup.
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> All the best,
> Karsten
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Re: [tor-relays] Simplifying ExoneraTor

2015-07-02 Thread Karsten Loesing
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On 02/07/15 11:15, Jens Kubieziel wrote:
> * Karsten Loesing schrieb am 2015-07-02 um 09:40 Uhr:
>> Please take a look at the design mockup, maybe compare it to the 
>> existing ExoneraTor service, and let us know your thoughts.
> 
> - I find the logo 1 quite nice. - When a user enters the date
> field, it might be helpful when some calendar-like thingie opens.
> So the user can jump to the right month, select the day and the
> correct date format is automatically inserted. This might help the
> user to insert the correct format.

Great.  I think this pretty much matches what Joshua wrote and that I
just replied to.  If there's anything else to add, please let me know.

> - Another approach for wrongly entered dates could be to guess the 
> correct date. I suspect that many will make a systematic error 
> (exchanging day and month, forget to insert a leading 0 etc.). So 
> instead of just saying: »The expected date format is "-MM-DD". 
> Example: "2015-03-24"« it might be more helpful to say: »Did you
> mean 2015-03-24?« where the date is a link to 
> https://exonerator.torproject.org/?ip=82.220.3.99×tamp=2015-03-24

I
> 
like this idea.  We can totally try out a few other date formats.
Added to the mockup.

Thanks for the feedback!

All the best,
Karsten

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Re: [tor-relays] Simplifying ExoneraTor

2015-07-02 Thread Karsten Loesing
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On 02/07/15 10:59, Joshua Lee Tucker wrote:
> Hi Karsten,

Hello Joshua,

> I much prefer the design of the first logo (over the existing ones)
> - I think it helps to retain ExoneraTor's affiliation with Tor, as
> I think the other logos make it too difficult to recognise that Tor
> logo.

Sounds good, added to the mockup as pro argument for the first logo.
Let's collect more arguments and maybe even alternatives.  Note that
these logos are very quickly drawn using the "paint equivalent on Mac
OS X", just to capture the idea.  It's easy to make more drafts.  And
once we have a candidate, we'll ask a real designer to re-draw the
logo for us.

> The designs look great!
> 
> I have one suggestion:
> 
> Would it not be better to use a date selection component for the
> user to select a data? I think the current method of having to
> manually input a date, formatted in the correct way, is a little
> clunky (I think this is demonstrated in the fact that there's a
> design page with a data formatting error).

I also added that one as open discussion point.  Note that neither
Julius nor I are web designers, so we just didn't know how to add such
a date selector.  I guess the tricky part might be that we wouldn't
want to add a JavaScript requirement just for the date selection part.
 If you have any ideas or even patches, please send them here, and
I'll include that in the mockup.

> Keep up the great work!

Thanks for the feedback!

All the best,
Karsten


> 
> Joshua Lee Tucker
> 
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Karsten Loesing
>  wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- 
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> Hello relay operators,
> 
> Julius and I have been working on a design mockup for the
> ExoneraTor service for the past few months and would want to hear
> what you think about this:
> 
> https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/exonerator-mockup/
> 
> The main idea behind this redesign was to simplify the existing 
> ExoneraTor service by omitting technical details (e.g., Tor
> descriptor contents) and removing mostly unused features (e.g.,
> parsing detailed exit policies).
> 
> Please take a look at the design mockup, maybe compare it to the 
> existing ExoneraTor service, and let us know your thoughts.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> All the best, Karsten
> 
> -

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Re: [tor-relays] Simplifying ExoneraTor

2015-07-02 Thread Jens Kubieziel
* Karsten Loesing schrieb am 2015-07-02 um 09:40 Uhr:
> Please take a look at the design mockup, maybe compare it to the
> existing ExoneraTor service, and let us know your thoughts.

- I find the logo 1 quite nice.
- When a user enters the date field, it might be helpful when some
  calendar-like thingie opens. So the user can jump to the right month,
  select the day and the correct date format is automatically inserted.
  This might help the user to insert the correct format.
- Another approach for wrongly entered dates could be to guess the
  correct date. I suspect that many will make a systematic error
  (exchanging day and month, forget to insert a leading 0 etc.). So
  instead of just saying: »The expected date format is "-MM-DD".
  Example: "2015-03-24"« it might be more helpful to say: »Did you mean
  2015-03-24?« where the date is a link to
  https://exonerator.torproject.org/?ip=82.220.3.99×tamp=2015-03-24

-- 
Jens Kubieziel   http://www.kubieziel.de


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Re: [tor-relays] Simplifying ExoneraTor

2015-07-02 Thread Joshua Lee Tucker
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Hi Karsten,

I much prefer the design of the first logo (over the existing ones) - I
think it helps to retain ExoneraTor's affiliation with Tor, as I think the
other logos make it too difficult to recognise that Tor logo.

The designs look great!

I have one suggestion:

Would it not be better to use a date selection component for the user to
select a data? I think the current method of having to manually input a
date, formatted in the correct way, is a little clunky (I think this is
demonstrated in the fact that there's a design page with a data formatting
error).

Keep up the great work!

Joshua Lee Tucker

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Karsten Loesing 
wrote:
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Hello relay operators,

Julius and I have been working on a design mockup for the ExoneraTor
service for the past few months and would want to hear what you think
about this:

https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/exonerator-mockup/

The main idea behind this redesign was to simplify the existing
ExoneraTor service by omitting technical details (e.g., Tor descriptor
contents) and removing mostly unused features (e.g., parsing detailed
exit policies).

Please take a look at the design mockup, maybe compare it to the
existing ExoneraTor service, and let us know your thoughts.

Thanks!

All the best,
Karsten

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[tor-relays] Simplifying ExoneraTor

2015-07-02 Thread Karsten Loesing
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Hello relay operators,

Julius and I have been working on a design mockup for the ExoneraTor
service for the past few months and would want to hear what you think
about this:

https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/exonerator-mockup/

The main idea behind this redesign was to simplify the existing
ExoneraTor service by omitting technical details (e.g., Tor descriptor
contents) and removing mostly unused features (e.g., parsing detailed
exit policies).

Please take a look at the design mockup, maybe compare it to the
existing ExoneraTor service, and let us know your thoughts.

Thanks!

All the best,
Karsten

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