Re: [tor-relays] Experience hosting exit relay with Costa Rica Servers: crservers.com

[Greg]

Patrick,
Do you mind adding this info to the "good/bad isps" wiki? I'm looking
around for hosting as well and thought we could improve that page a
little.
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs

Thanks,
Greg

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Kenneth Freeman  wrote:
>
>
> On 09/08/2015 12:14 PM, Patrick O'Doherty wrote:
>> I received the following response from them:
>>
>>> We do not discriminate on the use of any protocol among our customers.
>>> Nevertheless, if we get complains or any type of pressure from public or 
>>> private
>>> entities for illegal activity occurring in your server, we will have to 
>>> suspend
>>> service.
>>> You will be immediately contacted about any issue that arises.
>
> This explanation is marvelously vague.
>
>> so it would appear that they're not too friendly about hosting exit
>> relays. I've asked if they can forward all abuse complains to be instead
>> of immediately terminating service, but I'm not too hopeful.
>
> My hunch is that they just don't want to deal with the complaints and
> legal & administrative overhead -it's more cost-effective just to cut
> you off. When I first set up Tor some years ago I briefly ran it as an
> exit node, having sent an explanatory e-mail to my ISP, but I very
> quickly learned that once they receive a DMCA notice they cut you off at
> the knees, whereupon you're dealing with "help" desk morons working from
> a very strict script. Best to run an exit node from a corporate set-up
> with the legal boilerplate already in place.
>
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Re: [tor-relays] First Tech CU apparently blocking all Tor nodes

[Geoff Down]

On Sat, Sep 12, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Tor Relay @ WeFu.Org wrote:
> It appears that First Tech Federal Credit Union is blocking all Tor
> nodes (including non-exit nodes) from connecting to their website,
> http://www.firsttechfed.com 
> 
> This seems ... misguided on their part. Blocking exit nodes is one
> thing, but preventing random people who happen to run a Tor middle node
> from seeing anything on their website is rather over the top.
> 
> They do not appear to be listed on
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/doc/ListOfServicesBlockingTor
> yet. If other people also observe the blocking, they should probably be
> added.
> 
> I wanted to check with the list to make sure it is not just me, and get
> suggestions about the best way to approach First Tech and encourage them
> to re-consider this overly broad blocking.

Not just you. I had a similar problem with another site: the admin was
unintentionally blocking all relays rather than just exits, he claimed
that the naming of the relay lists downloadable from Torproject was
'unclear'.
GD

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[tor-relays] First Tech CU apparently blocking all Tor nodes

[Tor Relay @ WeFu.Org]

It appears that First Tech Federal Credit Union is blocking all Tor
nodes (including non-exit nodes) from connecting to their website,
http://www.firsttechfed.com 

This seems ... misguided on their part. Blocking exit nodes is one
thing, but preventing random people who happen to run a Tor middle node
from seeing anything on their website is rather over the top.

They do not appear to be listed on
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/doc/ListOfServicesBlockingTor 
yet. If other people also observe the blocking, they should probably be added.

I wanted to check with the list to make sure it is not just me, and get
suggestions about the best way to approach First Tech and encourage them
to re-consider this overly broad blocking.
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[tor-relays] criteria for why a relay is expected to be unmeasured

[nusenu]

Hi,

the tor network is currently doing quite well when it comes to the
amount of unmeasured relays.

I'd like to filter unmeasured relays for unexpectantly unmeasured relays
only.

Currently I have three criteria for why a relay is expected to be
unmeasured:
- relay is a directory authority
- relay joined the network within the last three days
- last_restarted is within the last three days (this is a strong
simplification of "we assume this relay did not run enough to be
measured within the last three days")


At 2015-09-12 07:00:00 there were 116 unmeasured relays if we filter for
unexpectantly unmeasured relays we are down to 12 unexpected unmeasured
relays:
+-+-+--+
| first_seen  | last_restarted  | FP   |
+-+-+--+
| 2014-04-08 19:00:00 | 2015-08-24 12:29:07 | 9BE65BAE |
| 2014-04-16 20:00:00 | 2015-09-04 19:57:50 | 74BA3700 |
| 2014-04-18 10:00:00 | 2015-08-27 17:14:42 | B34B40B3 |
| 2014-05-14 14:00:00 | 2015-09-06 16:09:50 | 853D1645 |
| 2014-05-29 13:00:00 | 2015-07-18 10:04:53 | D14A197E |
| 2014-06-20 07:00:00 | 2015-09-07 06:15:49 | E96D712D |
| 2014-09-26 11:00:00 | 2015-03-24 13:31:21 | B8D2E17F |
| 2014-12-20 14:00:00 | 2015-08-04 22:07:28 | 1A397290 |
| 2015-03-15 01:00:00 | 2015-09-07 10:53:21 | 9143307A |
| 2015-04-23 03:00:00 | 2015-07-07 09:11:21 | 00F2D93E |
| 2015-04-26 09:00:00 | 2015-07-19 20:41:26 | F2ED5032 |
| 2015-08-21 06:00:00 | 2015-08-24 20:36:03 | 38B63BB8 |
+-+-+--+

If you have an opinion on why any of these relays are unmeasured for a
specific reason please let me know so I can add that criteria to my list.

thanks




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Re: [tor-relays] Experience hosting exit relay with Costa Rica Servers: crservers.com

[Patrick O'Doherty]

I intend on doing so when I hear back about their DMCA forwarding
option, as I think that'll decide whether they're friendly or not.

p

Greg:
> Patrick,
> Do you mind adding this info to the "good/bad isps" wiki? I'm looking
> around for hosting as well and thought we could improve that page a
> little.
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Kenneth Freeman  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 09/08/2015 12:14 PM, Patrick O'Doherty wrote:
>>> I received the following response from them:
>>>
 We do not discriminate on the use of any protocol among our customers.
 Nevertheless, if we get complains or any type of pressure from public or 
 private
 entities for illegal activity occurring in your server, we will have to 
 suspend
 service.
 You will be immediately contacted about any issue that arises.
>>
>> This explanation is marvelously vague.
>>
>>> so it would appear that they're not too friendly about hosting exit
>>> relays. I've asked if they can forward all abuse complains to be instead
>>> of immediately terminating service, but I'm not too hopeful.
>>
>> My hunch is that they just don't want to deal with the complaints and
>> legal & administrative overhead -it's more cost-effective just to cut
>> you off. When I first set up Tor some years ago I briefly ran it as an
>> exit node, having sent an explanatory e-mail to my ISP, but I very
>> quickly learned that once they receive a DMCA notice they cut you off at
>> the knees, whereupon you're dealing with "help" desk morons working from
>> a very strict script. Best to run an exit node from a corporate set-up
>> with the legal boilerplate already in place.
>>
>>
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