Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather has been discontinued

2016-06-02 Thread Abhiram Chintangal 
Sad to hear this. I was briefly part of the rewrite and I remember it
getting selected to be
part of google's summer of code.

I was under the impression that the  it was running as I recently got a
tshirt email for my relay. I haven't had the opportunity to look at how the
new weather based on Onionoo was tested?

Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Karsten Loesing 
wrote:

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> Dear relay operators,
>
> as of April 4, 2016, Tor Weather has been discontinued.
>
> Tor Weather [0] provided an email notification service to any user who
> wanted to monitor the status of a Tor node.  Upon subscribing, they
> could specify what types of alerts they would like to receive.  The
> main purpose of Tor Weather was to notify node operators via email if
> their node was down for longer than a specified period, but other
> notification types were available, including one where operators would
> be informed when their node was around long enough to qualify for a
> t-shirt.
>
> The main reason for discontinuing Tor Weather is the fact that
> software requires maintenance, and Tor Weather is no exception.  Tor
> Weather was promising t-shirts for relays that have not been around
> long enough or that provided too little bandwidth to be useful to the
> network, and it was almost impossible to deny a t-shirt after Tor
> Weather has promised it.  Apart from that, Tor Weather was likely not
> offering t-shirts to people who have long earned it, thereby confusing
> them.  An unreliable notification system is worse than not having a
> system at all.  Relay operators shouldn't rely on Tor Weather to
> notify them when their relay fails.  They should rather set up their
> own system instead.
>
> We have tried to find a new maintainer for Tor Weather for years, but
> without success.  We started rewriting Tor Weather [1] using Onionoo
> [2] as data back-end in 2014, and even though that project didn't
> produce working code, somebody could pick up this efforts and finish
> the rewrite.  The Roster developers said that they're planning to
> include an email notification function in Roster [3].  And we
> developed a simple Python script that provides information about a
> relay operator's eligibility for acquiring a t-shirt [4].  None of
> these alternatives is a full replacement of Weather, though.
>
> We encourage you, the community of Tor relay operators, to step up to
> start your own notification systems and to share designs and code.
> Tor Weather is still a good idea, it just needs somebody to implement it.
>
> Tor Weather is discontinued in two steps.  For now, new subscriptions
> are disabled, new welcome messages are not sent out anymore, and
> existing subscriptions continue working until June 30, 2016.  From
> July 1, 2016 on, Tor Weather will not be sending out any emails.
>
> Sorry for any inconvenience caused by this.
>
> All the best,
> Karsten
>
>
> [0] https://weather.torproject.org/
>
> [1] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/weather-in-2014
>
> [2] https://onionoo.torproject.org/
>
> [3] http://www.tor-roster.org/
>
> [4]
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/metrics-tasks.git/tree/task-9889/tshirt.py
>
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather has been discontinued

2016-06-02 Thread Moritz Bartl 
Hi Jason!

> On 04/04/16 16:48, Karsten Loesing wrote:
 An unreliable notification system is worse than not
 having a system at all.  Relay operators shouldn't rely on Tor Weather
 to notify them when their relay fails. They should rather set up
 their own system instead.
> I found it extremely useful for notifications on my exits.
> Is it safe to assume the code is FOSS and repo'd somewhere?

The code, and the new start of a rewrite that Karsten mentions in his
post, are of course available. As stated in the post that you quote, the
old version did not work reliably, so I don't see why you would want to
run it again.

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather has been discontinued

2016-06-02 Thread Jason 

Oi!

I found it extremely useful for notifications on my exits.

Is it safe to assume the code is FOSS and repo'd somewhere?

-Jason

On 6/2/2016 5:21 PM, Greg Moss wrote:

*Again, sorry for any inconvenience -

Oh no worries. No one used it anyway-

-Original Message-
From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf
Of Karsten Loesing
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:56 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather has been discontinued

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Dear relay operators,

I learned today that Tor Weather is already offline since May 24 due to
problems with our hosting company.

We briefly thought about recreating it from backups, but it seems that we'd
rather spend that effort on other things.

Again, sorry for any inconvenience.

All the best,
Karsten


On 04/04/16 16:48, Karsten Loesing wrote:

Dear relay operators,

as of April 4, 2016, Tor Weather has been discontinued.

Tor Weather [0] provided an email notification service to any user who
wanted to monitor the status of a Tor node.  Upon subscribing, they
could specify what types of alerts they would like to receive.
The main purpose of Tor Weather was to notify node operators via email
if their node was down for longer than a specified period, but other
notification types were available, including one where operators would
be informed when their node was around long enough to qualify for a
t-shirt.

The main reason for discontinuing Tor Weather is the fact that
software requires maintenance, and Tor Weather is no exception.
Tor Weather was promising t-shirts for relays that have not been
around long enough or that provided too little bandwidth to be useful
to the network, and it was almost impossible to deny a t-shirt after
Tor Weather has promised it.  Apart from that, Tor Weather was likely
not offering t-shirts to people who have long earned it, thereby
confusing them.  An unreliable notification system is worse than not
having a system at all.  Relay operators shouldn't rely on Tor Weather
to notify them when their relay fails.  They should rather set up
their own system instead.

We have tried to find a new maintainer for Tor Weather for years, but
without success.  We started rewriting Tor Weather [1] using Onionoo
[2] as data back-end in 2014, and even though that project didn't
produce working code, somebody could pick up this efforts and finish
the rewrite.  The Roster developers said that they're planning to
include an email notification function in Roster [3].
And we developed a simple Python script that provides information
about a relay operator's eligibility for acquiring a t-shirt [4].
None of these alternatives is a full replacement of Weather, though.

We encourage you, the community of Tor relay operators, to step up to
start your own notification systems and to share designs and code. Tor
Weather is still a good idea, it just needs somebody to implement it.

Tor Weather is discontinued in two steps.  For now, new subscriptions
are disabled, new welcome messages are not sent out anymore, and
existing subscriptions continue working until June 30, 2016.  From
July 1, 2016 on, Tor Weather will not be sending out any emails.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused by this.

All the best, Karsten


[0] https://weather.torproject.org/

[1]
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/weather-in-2014

[2] https://onionoo.torproject.org/

[3] http://www.tor-roster.org/

[4]
https://gitweb.torproject.org/metrics-tasks.git/tree/task-9889/tshirt.
py




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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather has been discontinued

2016-06-02 Thread Greg Moss 
*Again, sorry for any inconvenience -

Oh no worries. No one used it anyway-

-Original Message-
From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf
Of Karsten Loesing
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:56 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather has been discontinued

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Dear relay operators,

I learned today that Tor Weather is already offline since May 24 due to
problems with our hosting company.

We briefly thought about recreating it from backups, but it seems that we'd
rather spend that effort on other things.

Again, sorry for any inconvenience.

All the best,
Karsten


On 04/04/16 16:48, Karsten Loesing wrote:
> Dear relay operators,
> 
> as of April 4, 2016, Tor Weather has been discontinued.
> 
> Tor Weather [0] provided an email notification service to any user who 
> wanted to monitor the status of a Tor node.  Upon subscribing, they 
> could specify what types of alerts they would like to receive.
> The main purpose of Tor Weather was to notify node operators via email 
> if their node was down for longer than a specified period, but other 
> notification types were available, including one where operators would 
> be informed when their node was around long enough to qualify for a 
> t-shirt.
> 
> The main reason for discontinuing Tor Weather is the fact that 
> software requires maintenance, and Tor Weather is no exception.
> Tor Weather was promising t-shirts for relays that have not been 
> around long enough or that provided too little bandwidth to be useful 
> to the network, and it was almost impossible to deny a t-shirt after 
> Tor Weather has promised it.  Apart from that, Tor Weather was likely 
> not offering t-shirts to people who have long earned it, thereby 
> confusing them.  An unreliable notification system is worse than not 
> having a system at all.  Relay operators shouldn't rely on Tor Weather 
> to notify them when their relay fails.  They should rather set up 
> their own system instead.
> 
> We have tried to find a new maintainer for Tor Weather for years, but 
> without success.  We started rewriting Tor Weather [1] using Onionoo 
> [2] as data back-end in 2014, and even though that project didn't 
> produce working code, somebody could pick up this efforts and finish 
> the rewrite.  The Roster developers said that they're planning to 
> include an email notification function in Roster [3].
> And we developed a simple Python script that provides information 
> about a relay operator's eligibility for acquiring a t-shirt [4].
> None of these alternatives is a full replacement of Weather, though.
> 
> We encourage you, the community of Tor relay operators, to step up to 
> start your own notification systems and to share designs and code. Tor 
> Weather is still a good idea, it just needs somebody to implement it.
> 
> Tor Weather is discontinued in two steps.  For now, new subscriptions 
> are disabled, new welcome messages are not sent out anymore, and 
> existing subscriptions continue working until June 30, 2016.  From 
> July 1, 2016 on, Tor Weather will not be sending out any emails.
> 
> Sorry for any inconvenience caused by this.
> 
> All the best, Karsten
> 
> 
> [0] https://weather.torproject.org/
> 
> [1]
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/weather-in-2014
> 
> [2] https://onionoo.torproject.org/
> 
> [3] http://www.tor-roster.org/
> 
> [4]
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/metrics-tasks.git/tree/task-9889/tshirt.
> py
>
> 
> 

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