Re: [tor-relays] Blutmagie retired

2018-11-14 Thread Olaf Selke

Am 14.11.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Zack Weinberg:


Please don't. Ad services are far too often used to distribute
malware.  Some kind of community-funding jar would be much safer.
(Patreon, ko.fi, etc).


https://torstatus.blutmagie.de is resurrected :-) Today I spend the 
amount of 17 USD for a new ssl certificate. Next step is to negotiate 
more ram with my Russian provider. 2 GB working set became too small for 
the mysql db and about 30-50 concurrent Apache processes.


regarding ads:

I would have to pay income tax for revenues generated with ad services. 
No kidding! German tax offices are Legion. They do not forgive. They do 
not forget.


By the way, what is wrong with https://torstatus.rueckgr.at? Basically 
this site provides the same information as blutmagie.


Olaf
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Re: [tor-relays] Blutmagie retired

2018-11-14 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:17 AM  wrote:
> At Sun Nov 11 11:51:36 UTC 2018 Olaf Selke olaf.selke at blutmagie.de wrote
> >thanx for all the flowers :-)
> >
> >I took the ssl certificate expiration 11/06 as an occasion to
> >discontinue the service. Actually behind the scenes everything is still
> >running. The mysql db is fed with Tor live data. Only the Apache config
> >prevents access. I'm just too lazy to renew the ssl certificate or to
> >switch to letsencrypt and I declined offers sell the site.
>
> I don't think anyone would be bothered if you put an ad-service
> on the page to generate some revenue.

Please don't. Ad services are far too often used to distribute
malware.  Some kind of community-funding jar would be much safer.
(Patreon, ko.fi, etc).

zw
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Re: [tor-relays] Blutmagie retired

2018-11-14 Thread starlight . 2018q2
At Sun Nov 11 11:51:36 UTC 2018 Olaf Selke olaf.selke at blutmagie.de wrote
>thanx for all the flowers :-)
>
>I took the ssl certificate expiration 11/06 as an occasion to 
>discontinue the service. Actually behind the scenes everything is still 
>running. The mysql db is fed with Tor live data. Only the Apache config 
>prevents access. I'm just too lazy to renew the ssl certificate or to 
>switch to letsencrypt and I declined offers sell the site.

I don't think anyone would be bothered if you put an ad-service
on the page to generate some revenue.  Should cover the cost and
generate a small profit.  Torstatus is nice!

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[tor-relays] upgrade theonionbox

2018-11-14 Thread TorGate
Hi to all, i have truble with a upgrade of onionbox.


:~ % sudo pip install --upgrade theonionbox
Password:
Collecting theonionbox
  Using cached 
https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/f6/90/bab164846bc3f59c2b05f9c15bcf6221d228a5b0a6517673d035be5db228/theonionbox-4.3.0.tar.gz
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: psutil>=5.4.0 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (5.4.3)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: requests>2.18 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (2.18.4)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: PySocks>=1.6.7 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (1.6.8)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: bottle>=0.12.13 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (0.12.13)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: stem<=1.6,>=1.5.4 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (1.6.0)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: tzlocal>=1.5 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (1.5.1)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: urllib3>=1.22 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (1.22)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: apscheduler<3.*,>=2.1.2 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (2.1.2)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: futures>=3.2 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (3.2.0)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: chardet<3.1.0,>=3.0.2 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from requests>2.18->theonionbox) (3.0.4)
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: certifi>=2017.4.17 in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from requests>2.18->theonionbox) 
(2017.11.5)
Collecting idna<2.7,>=2.5 (from requests>2.18->theonionbox)
  Downloading 
https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/27/cc/6dd9a3869f15c2edfab863b992838277279ce92663d334df9ecf5106f5c6/idna-2.6-py2.py3-none-any.whl
 (56kB)
100% || 61kB 1.4MB/s
Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: pytz in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from tzlocal>=1.5->theonionbox) (2017.3)
Installing collected packages: theonionbox, idna
  Found existing installation: theonionbox 4.1
Uninstalling theonionbox-4.1:
  Successfully uninstalled theonionbox-4.1
Error unknown encoding: string-escape while executing command 
/usr/local/bin/python2.7 -u -c "import setuptools, 
tokenize;__file__='/tmp/pip-install-6jsgKW/theonionbox/setup.py';f=getattr(tokenize,
 'open', open)(__file__);code=f.read().replace('\r\n', 
'\n');f.close();exec(compile(code, __file__, 'exec'))" install --record 
/tmp/pip-record-saoyTd/install-record.txt --single-version-externally-managed 
--compile
  Running setup.py install for theonionbox ... error
  Rolling back uninstall of theonionbox
Exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/cli/base_command.py", 
line 143, in main
status = self.run(options, args)
  File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/commands/install.py", 
line 366, in run
use_user_site=options.use_user_site,
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/req/__init__.py", 
line 49, in install_given_reqs
**kwargs
  File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/req/req_install.py", line 
791, in install
spinner=spinner,
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/utils/misc.py", 
line 659, in call_subprocess
stdout=stdout, cwd=cwd, env=env,
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 394, in __init__
errread, errwrite)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 1046, in _execute_child
child_exception = pickle.loads(data)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/pickle.py", line 1388, in loads
return Unpickler(file).load()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/pickle.py", line 864, in load
dispatch[key](self)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/pickle.py", line 977, in load_string
self.append(rep.decode("string-escape"))
LookupError: unknown encoding: string-escape



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[tor-relays] Bittorrent Legal Noise, Advocacy [re: Explaining Tor to worried parent]

2018-11-14 Thread grarpamp
> Yeah, one of the complete bullshit things. I get around 200 emails per day
> like this one:
>
> Protocol: BITTORRENT

This should tend to diminish when you begin creating and
showing people how to use filesharing and distributed storage
protocols operating entirely within the various encrypted
anonymous overlay and storage networks that exist out there.

Talking "Privacy" and "Freedom" is hardly enough to get
any percentage of various communities migrating inside
and safely using these networks, nor to get much change
in the world, you have to show them how to use real world
apps over those nets.

The *years* of anti speech and dis enablement from Tor about
agnostic Bittorrent in particular has no doubt hindered some
onionification et al of same. So you get that many more bullshit
emails and leave lots of unprotected non private and un free
peoples still out hanging using clearnet.


> I run into this all the time whilst proselytizing for Tor, as for
> example at a local non-profit makerspace recently. "Kiddie porn! FBI
> raids!" was the hue and cry, whereupon people's brains shut down. But
> this is very much a public relations issue

Jacob Appelbaum has some great presentations and
arguments made very much in the public free speech
space mentioning and addressing some of what you
speak of. You should look them up on youtube.



Move to tor-talk to discuss more.


Obligatory PJDU...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW3PFC86UNI


> I mentioned [Tor] to a parent.
>
> The conversation quickly devolved into worry and fear advising me to
> stop running it,
> to be honest now that I think about it from her perspective I can't
> blame her for thinking like this.
> However the responses and explanations from my end never hit the mark, I
> know why I'm doing it
> I know their might be risks but that I'm doing something that I believe in.
>
> Have you guys/gals ever faced situations similar to this? How did you
> handle it?
>
> Secondly she also raised the following question:
> 'if you don't do it somebody else will, so why do you put yourself at risk?
>
> Thirdly she detected from the conversation that a [node] might not
> be free from legal issues and
> I can't say that this is not the case, but I do think her view of these
> issues is utmost grim bringing up
> my future and employment opportunities.
> How would do you view/explain the severity of these legal issues?
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