Re: [tor-relays] new exit relay
Hi, please also note the corresponding blogpost from arma (Roger Dingeldine): https://blog.torproject.org/lifecycle-of-a-new-relay/ Kind regards telekobold On 10.04.23 07:14, Sandro Auerbach wrote: > As long as your configuration is correct, it still has to go through the > warm-up phase like any relay. > You don't have a stable flag yet either.So just let it run for a week > and just watch it. > > > Sandro > > > > Am 06.04.23 um 11:50 schrieb Linux-Hus Oni via tor-relays: >> Hi to all, i have setup a new tor exit relay with name TorGate, but there >> are only a few kb trafic on this? >> the flags are exit,running,v2dir,valid and its also messured. >> there are no warns or errors in the tor console >> any ideas why? >> regards Lin >> >> ___ >> tor-relays mailing list >> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Police request regarding relay
On Dienstag, 11. April 2023 14:09:15 CEST Finn wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We are hosting multiple relays under our AS 210558 and received an email > from a local police station in Germany requesting user data, nothing > unusual. Nothing unusual? I had a house search because of exits but never a user data request because of entry nodes. As a German organization, you must fully comply with Telekommunikation- Telemedien-Datenschutz-Gesetz §9 (the German telemedia data protection law), which prohibits to log any personally identifiable data or usage data unless required for billing purposes. As you do not charge for using your services, you will never be able to keep any connection data. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tor routers owned by German media services are protected by Telemediengesetz §8 https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/ttdsg/__9.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tmg/__8.html Updated german exit page https://github.com/chgans/tor-exit-notice -- ╰_╯ Ciao Marco! Debian GNU/Linux It's free software and it gives you freedom! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Police request regarding relay
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:09:15PM +, Finn wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We are hosting multiple relays under our AS 210558 and received an email from > a local police station in Germany requesting user data, nothing unusual. > > The weird thing is, that the relay in question is only a relay and not an > exit node since its creation (185.241.208.179) > (https://nusenu.github.io/OrNetStats/w/relay/B67C7039B04487854129A66B16F5EE3CFFCBB491.html) > - anyone has an idea how this happens? Thanks for running relays! Do you know what kind of user data they wanted? It looks like your relay has been a Guard relay (i.e. has had the Guard flag) for most of the past year. One possibility is that they have somehow decided that a user they are trying to track uses your relay as one of their Guards. That is, in this scenario they decided that the user connects to your relay consistently over time, so they are asking you to help them learn more about that user. Of course, your Tor relay in its default settings doesn't have any useful data for them, and you should keep it configured that way. It is unclear how much people might be trying to do "guard discovery" attacks in practice, and also unclear how well they might work -- there is a lot of research on this class of attacks in theory but not much is known about whether it matters in practice. And who knows, it could be something else: maybe they are just fishing for general information, or maybe they are intentionally creating useless work and stress for you and your hosting provider to discourage you from wanting to help Tor users. More reading on the 'guard discovery attack' topic: * PETS paper, From "Onion Not Found" to Guard Discovery: https://petsymposium.org/2022/files/papers/issue1/popets-2022-0026.pdf * The Vanguards idea: https://blog.torproject.org/announcing-vanguards-add-onion-services/ Part of the vanguards idea is implemented by default in Tor 0.4.7: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/proposals/333-vanguards-lite.md https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/issues/40363 Hope this helps, --Roger ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Police request regarding relay
Hi, I've heard once of a non-exit relay getting seized because it was used as guard by a ransomware. We can't tell for sure, but maybe it's something alike: some kind of virus connecting to its control server over tor and choosing this relay as its guard, causing your ip to be flagged by some IDS. This is very much a guess, but I fail to see a better explanation. Best regards, On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 18:33, Finn wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > We are hosting multiple relays under our AS 210558 and received an email from > a local police station in Germany requesting user data, nothing unusual. > > The weird thing is, that the relay in question is only a relay and not an > exit node since its creation (185.241.208.179) > (https://nusenu.github.io/OrNetStats/w/relay/B67C7039B04487854129A66B16F5EE3CFFCBB491.html) > - anyone has an idea how this happens? > > Best regards___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
[tor-relays] Police request regarding relay
Hello everyone, We are hosting multiple relays under our AS 210558 and received an email from a local police station in Germany requesting user data, nothing unusual. The weird thing is, that the relay in question is only a relay and not an exit node since its creation (185.241.208.179) (https://nusenu.github.io/OrNetStats/w/relay/B67C7039B04487854129A66B16F5EE3CFFCBB491.html) - anyone has an idea how this happens? Best regards___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
