Re: [tor-relays] Middle relay IP blocking

[Pascal Terjan]

On Thu, 3 Aug 2023, 15:57 Roman Mamedov,  wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 23:14:28 +0200
> Eldalië via tor-relays  wrote:
>
> > Hello there!
> > I've been running for over 1.5 year a middle relay on an IP address I
> also use
> > to browse, withous issues. However it's now some weeks since many
> websites that
> > always refused tor traffic started to also refuse normal traffic from my
> IP. I
> > suppose this is related to the relay, because I don't run any other
> "suspect"
> > service on this IP and when I change it the problem is gone for a few
> hours.
> > My guess is that some widely used black list started including middle
> relay
> > IPs, but I have no proofs.
> > Has anyone had similar experiences? Any thoughts on this?
>
> For me this has always been the case, since many years ago. It is
> surprising
> you did not have issues for 1.5 years.
>
> It is probably this list: https://www.dan.me.uk/tornodes
> It has explanation text in bold, but nobody reads that.
> Or just the Tor relay lists that can be fetched from the Tor project
> directly.
>

I stopped running a relay at home years ago (due to moving home and going
from 1Gbps upload to 10Mbps) but had had the problem with a third party
used by an airline starting to use that list.

It may be better nowadays as most things are available over IPv6 so I
wouldn't care as much if my IPv4 gets blocked and hopefully they wouldn't
block more than a /64 for IPv6.

>
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Re: [tor-relays] Middle relay IP blocking

[securehell]

I tried reporting a similar issue a few months ago (post wasn’t approved by 
moderator). I was running a relay from my home ISP. After a short while certain 
websites became inaccessible from other computers in my home network that 
shared the same public IP. After trial and error with other IP addresses 
(non-Tor) I realized commercial gateway services had blacklisted our IP address.

After several weeks of running a Relay I shut it down and after a few days we 
could access the websites again from our IP.

The ISP didn’t understand when I reported it and just wanted to upsell me a 
business plan.

Live and learn. The Tor network was the victim. You are correct that by 
publishing entry, relay and exit node IP addresses for the Tor network, it’s an 
easy target for commercial services to indiscriminately blacklist any IP 
addresses associated with Tor. Sharing your IP with a relay and your personal 
use might get you blocked.

I hope this post gets approved.

> On Aug 3, 2023, at 7:47 AM, Eldalië via tor-relays 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello there!
> I've been running for over 1.5 year a middle relay on an IP address I also use
> to browse, withous issues. However it's now some weeks since many websites 
> that
> always refused tor traffic started to also refuse normal traffic from my IP. I
> suppose this is related to the relay, because I don't run any other "suspect"
> service on this IP and when I change it the problem is gone for a few hours.
> My guess is that some widely used black list started including middle relay
> IPs, but I have no proofs.
> Has anyone had similar experiences? Any thoughts on this?
> Thanks,
> 
> Eldalië
> 
> 
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