Re: [tor-relays] Advice on dealing with ISP's response to DMCA takedown notice.

2013-10-24 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 09:10:15PM -0400, Christopher Jones wrote:
 Suggestions are welcome. I?m running with the default exit node policy,
which should block most of the abuse-laden ports. BitTorrent?s a little
harder to deal with. I?ve no qualms working with the ISP to mitigate
their concerns, but I?m not sensing their returning the same spirit
of cooperation.

You might like the 'reduced exit policy':
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorExitGuidelines

But it sounds like it won't entirely solve your problem at this point,
and it's time for either diplomacy and education, or some other ideas.
I'll let others chime in with suggestions.

Thanks!
--Roger

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Re: [tor-relays] Advice on dealing with ISP's response to DMCA takedown notice.

2013-10-24 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote:
 You might like the 'reduced exit policy':
 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorExitGuidelines

 But it sounds like it won't entirely solve your problem at this point,
 and it's time for either diplomacy and education, or some other ideas.
 I'll let others chime in with suggestions.

As others have said:
- Work together with your hoster to adjust the policy
- Offer to handle their ticket issues for them by asking for the
full email of the complaint with addresses you can reply to
(as a service operator in the US that's pretty much your
responsibility to field those directly, then that of your upstream
if you don't). Then contact the complainer, send them the Tor
docs, tell them your server has no data on it and get them
to remove you from their lists and close their case. Keep
your hoster informed and especially copy them on any
case closed or delisting success.
- Some relay operators opt to SWIP the address space
to them and effectively become the ISP of record.
- If those don't work, close your account yourself and tell
them that based on your poor experience with them that
you will let others know not to buy from them when the
topic of hosting comes up.
- Add an entry to the goodbadproviders wiki page and
point them to it.

Details for all of this are in the archives of this list.
Thanks for relaying traffic :)
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