Re: [tor-relays] Avoiding sinkholes

2014-03-28 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Ramo,

Thanks for running an exit! You will run into similar trouble again and
again, unfortunately.

My suggestion: Get a second IP, or even better, don't share the same VPS.

-- 
Moritz Bartl
https://www.torservers.net/
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Re: [tor-relays] Avoiding sinkholes

2014-03-28 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 08:36:06AM +0300, r...@goodvikings.com wrote:
 It's on that list since at some point a botnet talking through tor to
its CC server used my exit node to do so

Actually, it could easily have been a computer security researcher who
used Tor to access that address, not realizing the collateral damage he
was triggering. A growing number of malware researchers and antivirus
companies use Tor to reach various parts of the Internet, because
otherwise the bad guys recognize their IP address and special-case them.

As Moritz says, this is alas not an easy game to win. Not long ago
I learned that the .mil domain refuses to hear any packets from my
computer, which runs one of the directory authorities (and it's not
even an exit relay!). That meant my postfix became convinced that all
mails to or from .mil addresses were spam, since their name doesn't
resolve. Bad news for the Navy researchers who are signed up to, say,
the petsymposium.org mailing lists.

The real fun is going to start when these blacklists try to bully us by
blacklisting the whole /24 nearby, in hopes that our neighbors will lean
on us to cut it out.

I still enjoy rereading http://paulgraham.com/spamhausblacklist.html as
linked from https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse#TypicalAbuses

--Roger

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Re: [tor-relays] Avoiding sinkholes

2014-03-28 Thread ramo
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 06:48:21AM +0100, Moritz Bartl wrote:
 Hi Ramo,
 
 Thanks for running an exit!

Thanks. I've been running one for ages, but the appreciation is always nice.

 You will run into similar trouble again and
 again, unfortunately.
 

This is the first time I've known this to happen, I've had this configuration 
for ... probably 2 years? 

 My suggestion: Get a second IP, or even better, don't share the same VPS.

Not sure why a second IP never occurred to me. Good idea.

Cheers

Damian
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