Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?type=bridge&search=NODENAME Replace "NODENAME" above (actually it can match any field about a node). "type=bridge&" can be left out if you want to seach all nodes. -Original Message- From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Krey Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:22 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:12:35 +, and...@torproject.is wrote: ... > The bridge operator cannot find out to which pool you belong. ('you' meaning the 'bridge operator'?) You (as the operator) can find out the pool you're in; there is an API somewhere that tells you all the bridges, just without their IP addresses. Did that for mine, just can't remember the URL offhand. Andreas -- "Totally trivial. Famous last words." From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:29:21 -0800 ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:12:35 +, and...@torproject.is wrote: ... > The bridge operator cannot find out to which pool you belong. ('you' meaning the 'bridge operator'?) You (as the operator) can find out the pool you're in; there is an API somewhere that tells you all the bridges, just without their IP addresses. Did that for mine, just can't remember the URL offhand. Andreas -- "Totally trivial. Famous last words." From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:29:21 -0800 ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 08:37:36AM +, mart...@posteo.de wrote 0.4K bytes in 0 lines about: : When my bridge uses only the same few MBs each day, i guess it isn't : used at all right? Bridges are randomly assigned into one of 5 pools to be given out to clients. The pools are served over https, smtps, instant messaging, human to human social networks, or put in reserve. The bridge operator cannot find out to which pool you belong. Typically, the bridges in the https and smtps pools see usage right away. As an example, I ran a bridge for years passing minimal traffic. I gave out my bridge IP and fingerprint to a few activists at a conference and it seems their entire country used it for the next year. An easy way to test "is my bridge working?" is to use it yourself. -- Andrew http://tpo.is/contact pgp 0x6B4D6475 ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
Lunar: > Martin Kepplinger: >> I will not send my fingerprint to globe over http. I want to keep it >> secret so I can't check my bridge. I hope it works. obfs-ports are >> forwarded and everything else are standard torrc-settings. >> >> But please make globe accessible over https. > > Unless you are subject to a MITM and the JavaScript code is changed > before reaching your browser, Globe will *not* send the fingerprint of > the bridge to Onionoo (over HTTPS), only the hashed version. But > I understand extra catiousness. > > Maybe there's no need to give my hash to globe. I checked with arm and it sees _outbound_ connections. Is that evidence enough that the bridge is used? My standard-relay doesn't see any outbound connections (though relaying lots of data of course). Would be nice if somebody could confirm that outbound connections in a properly configured bridge mean that it is actually _used_ already. thanks > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
Martin Kepplinger: > I will not send my fingerprint to globe over http. I want to keep it > secret so I can't check my bridge. I hope it works. obfs-ports are > forwarded and everything else are standard torrc-settings. > > But please make globe accessible over https. Unless you are subject to a MITM and the JavaScript code is changed before reaching your browser, Globe will *not* send the fingerprint of the bridge to Onionoo (over HTTPS), only the hashed version. But I understand extra catiousness. -- Lunar signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
Gary Anderson: > I have the same worry as Martin. I set up a bridge on AWS 2 weeks ago by > following the instructions here https://cloud.torproject.org/ and choosing a > bridge image for Ireland. > > Setup went well, log files on startup tell me my bridge contacts the tor > network, and I checked I could use my bridge by explicitly configuring it in > a tor client. But the traffic I see in arm is very small (around 100 MB / > week) compared to what I observed when I tested a tor relay (over 2 GB in a > week-end). On the other hand, I didn't find my fingerprint in Globe. > > Is there something wrong or can this be a normal situation that happens > sometime ? Do all fingerprints end up in Globe ? > > > T. > Please keep threads together. Just use reply normally. I will not send my fingerprint to globe over http. I want to keep it secret so I can't check my bridge. I hope it works. obfs-ports are forwarded and everything else are standard torrc-settings. But please make globe accessible over https. thanks > > > Lunar : >> Martin Kepplinger: >>> When my bridge uses only the same few MBs each day, i guess it isn't >>> used at all right? >>> >>> Is there a simple way to ensure it is in bridgeDB and functioning as it >>> should? >> >> You can search for the bridge fingerprint in Globe: >> http://globe.rndm.de/ >> >> Globe will hash the fingerprint before sending it to Onionoo to prevent >> leaks. >> >> >> >> ___ >> tor-relays mailing list >> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
That's what I thought. It's a shame not to find a use for what is there, though. Robert > I've seen bridges range from no traffic in a month to a full terabyte in > a month. > > So that 100GB may sit unused or it may be exhausted in days. > >> >> There are some $1 a month VPSs which could be used for bridges, I >> gather. >> Can you say that bridges wouldn't use more than 100GB a month? GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM & EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I wrote: >Can you say that bridges wouldn't use more than 100GB a month? The torrc file has options for rate and burst speeds and an AccountingMax setting to limit the amount of traffic you route. Tor then does the math and will "hibernate" its routing. You can set these values to whatever works for you. I imagine Vidallia has these settings somewhere, too, if you use that to configure your node. Regards. - -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: APG v1.0.9 iQJRBAEBCAA7BQJSgmT+NBxTZWFuIExlb25hcmQgPG1lYW5kZXJpbmdjb2RlQHNp bHZlcmxlYWZzdHVkaW9zLm5ldD4ACgkQ3/wUpOyab7EnDA/+IqSpjntnp8euR5qv 8Nw6Kfcqqt+5kHgoIytKAEOydYaAkhGuiV2cE7mAADywzcGu+RcX5eWiDuGO5CX2 FFYoGQ6a6IRdB/kz+TSBrPCqEz5/tSL3qW0/iYzfc6dxtsqvAGKyada2UPgk4OCs ZH6PsSQrfvxkYVtVf5TSL4Zke4FSrl/NPfGoutqa90SOvU6PGIG3tnjKS/zPdD5i Or9z4c7FHzLD7mw+0l3eyFuI0vOI29MqXKNxwIdQNfQcfXhs5gKcB6f1T0LbUqwi wgkgnOB1UFOWX2gyxyp+HcP/gxNd/IIqIJ96RGurIwmbjOHFesCMA9253/fNxXIV cVhCnl3gb8H5o7qdmeqCKo1qAXIB3189yb2LqB1Pl9zWKocq1ZFPJeS0q93jxRkw p9Ru3wOP2aewZ/y84iC6TKvofVD0wU7kyQYREjaYjPT4jxMj/9TlOUFYY7GkJw2Y MBAfzE7PfrDRVoSRRU6MdJ6YbGW8dobmKM237Y6kOtgTAqxFAJwCufsR+Jj0L16q KmyG/wZ3Fp/UwJCl55y+/i/HzOre+R/mUZMGtsJtT+DyyrC8E2Rq/gFGt/ZVIm1n nXchvjVgg+1YUiaRFiDONuGeHdmdws+omuZzeYhpHktyRayps3KWyXBEX4acaZsT CoEFcDmwBT8XXXc1NMl6xAwD94k= =uxjv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
I have the same worry as Martin. I set up a bridge on AWS 2 weeks ago by following the instructions here https://cloud.torproject.org/ and choosing a bridge image for Ireland. Setup went well, log files on startup tell me my bridge contacts the tor network, and I checked I could use my bridge by explicitly configuring it in a tor client. But the traffic I see in arm is very small (around 100 MB / week) compared to what I observed when I tested a tor relay (over 2 GB in a week-end). On the other hand, I didn't find my fingerprint in Globe. Is there something wrong or can this be a normal situation that happens sometime ? Do all fingerprints end up in Globe ? T. Lunar : > Martin Kepplinger: >> When my bridge uses only the same few MBs each day, i guess it isn't >> used at all right? >> >> Is there a simple way to ensure it is in bridgeDB and functioning as it >> should? > > You can search for the bridge fingerprint in Globe: > http://globe.rndm.de/ > > Globe will hash the fingerprint before sending it to Onionoo to prevent > leaks. >___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
I've seen bridges range from no traffic in a month to a full terabyte in a month. So that 100GB may sit unused or it may be exhausted in days. On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:14am, "I" said: > Lunar, > > There are some $1 a month VPSs which could be used for bridges, I gather. > Can you say that bridges wouldn't use more than 100GB a month? > > Robert > >> -Original Message- >> From: lu...@torproject.org >> Sent: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:27:07 +0100 >> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge >> >> Martin Kepplinger: >>> When my bridge uses only the same few MBs each day, i guess it isn't >>> used at all right? >>> >>> Is there a simple way to ensure it is in bridgeDB and functioning as it >>> should? >> >> You can search for the bridge fingerprint in Globe: >> http://globe.rndm.de/ >> >> Globe will hash the fingerprint before sending it to Onionoo to prevent >> leaks. >> >> -- >> Lunar > > > FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your > desktop! > Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
Lunar, There are some $1 a month VPSs which could be used for bridges, I gather. Can you say that bridges wouldn't use more than 100GB a month? Robert > -Original Message- > From: lu...@torproject.org > Sent: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:27:07 +0100 > To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge > > Martin Kepplinger: >> When my bridge uses only the same few MBs each day, i guess it isn't >> used at all right? >> >> Is there a simple way to ensure it is in bridgeDB and functioning as it >> should? > > You can search for the bridge fingerprint in Globe: > http://globe.rndm.de/ > > Globe will hash the fingerprint before sending it to Onionoo to prevent > leaks. > > -- > Lunar FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Checking a bridge
Martin Kepplinger: > When my bridge uses only the same few MBs each day, i guess it isn't > used at all right? > > Is there a simple way to ensure it is in bridgeDB and functioning as it > should? You can search for the bridge fingerprint in Globe: http://globe.rndm.de/ Globe will hash the fingerprint before sending it to Onionoo to prevent leaks. -- Lunar signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
[tor-relays] Checking a bridge
When my bridge uses only the same few MBs each day, i guess it isn't used at all right? Is there a simple way to ensure it is in bridgeDB and functioning as it should? thanks, martin ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays