Re: [tor-relays] How long does it take for a relay IP to stop being displayed in metrics and web service?

2020-10-31 Thread mpan
> Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor 
> or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially 
> for non-exit relays.
  The addresses have to be public, because other users need to be able
to connect to them. Public listing of bridge nodes is somewhat limited
at the cost of making access harder for honest users and the solution is
only shifting the problem a bit.

> My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?
  Aside from what people have alrady said before me, the problem is
usually not on Tor Metrics side. There is a third player here: companies
that offer blocklists. It’s totally up to them when they think the IP
address is “clean”. It may be from a day to never, depending on how much
they care about quality of the lists they push to their customers. From
my experience and hearsay a day to a week is a typical time for most cases.

  You may use some anonimizing solutions (VPS) for the time being to
hide your identity, if accessing those services is urgent.



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Re: [tor-relays] How long does it take for a relay IP to stop being displayed in metrics and web service?

2020-10-31 Thread William Kane
A few days up to a week, some service operators might only fetch IP's
from the Tor relay pool once every weeks or even months though, so the
IP being on Metrics is completely irrelevant.

I'd say at least 3-6 months until you reach a state where most sites
have un-blocked your IP - some might never un-block it.

Think before blindly setting up software without knowing the consequences.

2020-10-28 6:53 GMT, shsmbcfdfk :
> Hi,
>
> I setup a non-exit relay on my home network and I have been listed as relay.
> So now me and my family even if we don't use Tor we are excluded from some
> online services.
>
> Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor
> or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially
> for non-exit relays.
>
> I completely shut down the relay several hours ago but my IP is still
> listed.
>
> My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [tor-relays] How long does it take for a relay IP to stop being displayed in metrics and web service?

2020-10-31 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 06:53:56 +
shsmbcfdfk  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I setup a non-exit relay on my home network and I have been listed as relay. 
> So now me and my family even if we don't use Tor we are excluded from some 
> online services.
> 
> Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor 
> or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially 
> for non-exit relays.
> 
> I completely shut down the relay several hours ago but my IP is still listed.
> 
> My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?

If I remember correctly, "Down" relays remain listed on metrics.torproject.org
for 2 weeks. However the source where those sites and services take the IP
lists is likely different, and could be updated more rapidly (or less).

-- 
With respect,
Roman
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Re: [tor-relays] How long does it take for a relay IP to stop being displayed in metrics and web service?

2020-10-31 Thread Guinness
Le Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 06:53:56AM +, shsmbcfdfk écrivait :
> Hi,
> 
> I setup a non-exit relay on my home network and I have been listed as relay. 
> So now me and my family even if we don't use Tor we are excluded from some 
> online services.
> 
> Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor 
> or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially 
> for non-exit relays.
> 
> I completely shut down the relay several hours ago but my IP is still listed.
> 
> My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?
> 
> Thanks,

It depends on their firewall policy, if they use fail2ban or not, how
long they blacklist. But usually the default is 24h from what I have
seen.

You might want to contact them to ask to be removed from the blacklist,
and mayber explain them why you use Tor and why this is important ?

-- 
Guinness


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[tor-relays] How long does it take for a relay IP to stop being displayed in metrics and web service?

2020-10-31 Thread shsmbcfdfk
Hi,

I setup a non-exit relay on my home network and I have been listed as relay. So 
now me and my family even if we don't use Tor we are excluded from some online 
services.

Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor or 
not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially for 
non-exit relays.

I completely shut down the relay several hours ago but my IP is still listed.

My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?

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