[tor-relays] Relay / Bridge
Hi, Your system is now lsted: ec2bridgerocks001 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/50855F45464DBE84E917B0ED74E2144E785BA024 -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Sincerely yours Sebsstian Urbach --- Religion is a symptom of irrational belief and groundless hope. --- Gregory House, M.D. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:32:09PM +0100, Sebastian Urbach wrote: > Your system is now lsted: > > ec2bridgerocks001 > > https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/50855F45464DBE84E917B0ED74E2144E785BA024 It appears that you're running a *relay* on EC2? With a nickname implying that you think it's a bridge? Making it a public relay might be more expensive than you are expecting. Did you have to reconfigure it manually to be a public relay, or was this an easy-to-make accident? --Roger ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge
I apologize for the delay in responding, getting ready to move to Texas, but anyway. My original intention was to run one EC2 as a public relay and another as a bridge, subject to bandwidth throttling, however, after thinking about it for about a day (I saw your email last night) I realized that a bridge that is bandwidth throttling might be more useful than a public relay that is bandwidth throttling. So I'll fix it this evening, unless there's a reason not to. Thanks. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:32:09PM +0100, Sebastian Urbach wrote: >> Your system is now lsted: >> >> ec2bridgerocks001 >> >> https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/50855F45464DBE84E917B0ED74E2144E785BA024 > > It appears that you're running a *relay* on EC2? > > With a nickname implying that you think it's a bridge? > > Making it a public relay might be more expensive than you are expecting. > > Did you have to reconfigure it manually to be a public relay, or was > this an easy-to-make accident? > > --Roger > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays -- Conrad Rockenhaus http://www.rockenhaus.com/ http://www.lagparty.org/~conradr/ ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge
I built a new EC2 bridge at US East (NOVA) due to the fact that the one at California was published as a public relay. I apologize for the error Roger. On an unrelated note, has there been any success in expanding the Tor cloud project to other cloud service providers? Is there anyway to volunteer to try to help out, if there's a willingness to expand it to other providers? Thanks. --Rock On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Conrad Rockenhaus wrote: > I apologize for the delay in responding, getting ready to move to > Texas, but anyway. My original intention was to run one EC2 as a > public relay and another as a bridge, subject to bandwidth throttling, > however, after thinking about it for about a day (I saw your email > last night) I realized that a bridge that is bandwidth throttling > might be more useful than a public relay that is bandwidth throttling. > > So I'll fix it this evening, unless there's a reason not to. > > Thanks. > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:32:09PM +0100, Sebastian Urbach wrote: >>> Your system is now lsted: >>> >>> ec2bridgerocks001 >>> >>> https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/50855F45464DBE84E917B0ED74E2144E785BA024 >> >> It appears that you're running a *relay* on EC2? >> >> With a nickname implying that you think it's a bridge? >> >> Making it a public relay might be more expensive than you are expecting. >> >> Did you have to reconfigure it manually to be a public relay, or was >> this an easy-to-make accident? >> >> --Roger >> >> ___ >> tor-relays mailing list >> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > > > -- > Conrad Rockenhaus > > http://www.rockenhaus.com/ > http://www.lagparty.org/~conradr/ -- Conrad Rockenhaus http://www.rockenhaus.com/ http://www.lagparty.org/~conradr/ ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Conrad Rockenhaus wrote: > On an unrelated note, has there been any success in expanding the Tor > cloud project to other cloud service providers? Is there anyway to > volunteer to try to help out, if there's a willingness to expand it to > other providers? Thanks. I did some research a year or so ago, but was unable to find anything that was as cheap *and* easy as AWS. There are cloud providers with lower prices, but they do not enable users to publish and use instance templates the same way AWS does. -- Runa A. Sandvik ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge
On 12/16/2013 03:48 PM, Runa A. Sandvik wrote: >> On an unrelated note, has there been any success in expanding the Tor >> cloud project to other cloud service providers? Is there anyway to >> volunteer to try to help out, if there's a willingness to expand it to >> other providers? Thanks. > I did some research a year or so ago, but was unable to find anything > that was as cheap *and* easy as AWS. There are cloud providers with > lower prices, but they do not enable users to publish and use instance > templates the same way AWS does. We're currently working on automating Tor relay and bridge deployment using Ansible scripts [ https://github.com/ansible/ansible ]. All it needs is SSH access, everything else will be pulled in and configured using Ansible. This should then work for all 'cloud providers' (or old-style VPS), and in my eyes is a more sustainable and decentralized way of doing "Tor cloud". Another component that we work on at the moment is a homebrewed Python monitoring software for relays, which in the long term could be a nice feature to have apart from the generic traffic stats you get from Amazon. We will have a first report end of this month with the specs, hopefully attracting more people to join the fun. Hannes, Daniel, Christian, feel free to share what you're doing with this list. :-) -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/ ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge
I am setting one up on Azure right now. Will report back. -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Runa A. Sandvik wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Conrad Rockenhaus > wrote: > > On an unrelated note, has there been any success in expanding the Tor > > cloud project to other cloud service providers? Is there anyway to > > volunteer to try to help out, if there's a willingness to expand it to > > other providers? Thanks. > > I did some research a year or so ago, but was unable to find anything > that was as cheap *and* easy as AWS. There are cloud providers with > lower prices, but they do not enable users to publish and use instance > templates the same way AWS does. > > -- > Runa A. Sandvik > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
[tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated server. I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all relay which are from the same owner. If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint to the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge configuration? Thanks, - -- Patrick ZAJDA Skype : gansta93 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS1qH1AAoJEKPVT2DeSPb4+QUIALJNLP9MsGN8FbPEP6EegNV9 gcc66Iz2Z7maJD35pMquQqBqJrK+Zo6brSe2aX0N9+GipV9+jCpMa0hUOfzsf1h8 oebEjDLPgf4nxE6GuztU7Jkm0XwqHFmT1ELFPS2qU/EwGOBhj4l0Pywff7qfhBBC nvM+5O6+DRVD/44RGyhQqaNCDkxYuUkcLMJUX104RCoBQ6WmPYRBEPBm8YbrPKmc eGZNpRggSDRYzITZrT0SneIzExFP5IbTdGlHidyL4it70iJDI+LBZsm/ZGMENv/h lUYHe8RQbmDgt81BB+dq763zIeFMvBMOtJEdVdWPtuzsGypLxWJPMiR0NKqf6ZI= =X0ps -END PGP SIGNATURE- 0xDE48F6F8.asc Description: application/pgp-keys 0xDE48F6F8.asc.sig Description: Binary data ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members
If you are talking about the "MyFamily" setting, the documentation is very clear on this: "Do not list any bridge relay as it would compromise its concealment." Best regards, Alexander --- PGP Key: 0xC55A356B | https://dietrich.cx/pgp On 2014-01-15 15:57, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated server. I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all relay which are from the same owner. If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint to the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge configuration? Thanks, - -- Patrick ZAJDA Skype : gansta93 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS1qH1AAoJEKPVT2DeSPb4+QUIALJNLP9MsGN8FbPEP6EegNV9 gcc66Iz2Z7maJD35pMquQqBqJrK+Zo6brSe2aX0N9+GipV9+jCpMa0hUOfzsf1h8 oebEjDLPgf4nxE6GuztU7Jkm0XwqHFmT1ELFPS2qU/EwGOBhj4l0Pywff7qfhBBC nvM+5O6+DRVD/44RGyhQqaNCDkxYuUkcLMJUX104RCoBQ6WmPYRBEPBm8YbrPKmc eGZNpRggSDRYzITZrT0SneIzExFP5IbTdGlHidyL4it70iJDI+LBZsm/ZGMENv/h lUYHe8RQbmDgt81BB+dq763zIeFMvBMOtJEdVdWPtuzsGypLxWJPMiR0NKqf6ZI= =X0ps -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alexander, Yes, I was talking about the MyFamily setting. So I'll only put the relay in the bridge configuration. Thanks, Patrick Le 15/01/2014 17:59, Alexander Dietrich a écrit : > If you are talking about the "MyFamily" setting, the documentation > is very clear on this: "Do not list any bridge relay as it would > compromise its concealment." > > Best regards, Alexander --- PGP Key: 0xC55A356B | > https://dietrich.cx/pgp > > On 2014-01-15 15:57, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: Hi all, > > Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated > server. > > I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all > relay which are from the same owner. > > If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint > to the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge > configuration? > > Thanks, >> >> ___ tor-relays >> mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > ___ tor-relays mailing > list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays - -- Patrick ZAJDA Skype : gansta93 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS1sV5AAoJEKPVT2DeSPb46lQH/2p0vtwbiT0QcKap13jW4z5X +Zw0dXBULTlFE2lp6nGDaK2QaxSJMocQc6oztM7vm/k1CObR2lfmZ8dg5tGh6Iar YaIqJ0dn7Znz0NQ6+PUTVHVdOA1aqJRj+CfbYGiw5DDZIUELJxDLT0YhCDujbUDE eTx5PQyEzvXtX7EBIwFZ4GDDUBOZ/JKIDBbDfire5I7HR2BSIg6B8yU+ZYk3laVM EHIQtuWktxQHXpoEgr4cSJL+BQCSBCC4MWwAYqk/bpNDwsNyn8NOB2k00TnS/8p5 zxN2qMCkyAEUE0UGQbciMT36wDuvDeGFifb/nwIRFYMPpbArhQ8pWuXBUG7OeFc= =yn5J -END PGP SIGNATURE- 0xDE48F6F8.asc Description: application/pgp-keys 0xDE48F6F8.asc.sig Description: Binary data ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members
My interpretation of the docs ("When two servers both declare that they are in the same family") would be that configuring only one side of the relation has no effect. But someone with more in-depth knowledge should probably confirm this. Best regards, Alexander --- PGP Key: 0xC55A356B | https://dietrich.cx/pgp On 2014-01-15 18:29, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alexander, Yes, I was talking about the MyFamily setting. So I'll only put the relay in the bridge configuration. Thanks, Patrick Le 15/01/2014 17:59, Alexander Dietrich a écrit : If you are talking about the "MyFamily" setting, the documentation is very clear on this: "Do not list any bridge relay as it would compromise its concealment." Best regards, Alexander --- PGP Key: 0xC55A356B | https://dietrich.cx/pgp On 2014-01-15 15:57, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: Hi all, Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated server. I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all relay which are from the same owner. If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint to the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge configuration? Thanks, ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays - -- Patrick ZAJDA Skype : gansta93 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS1sV5AAoJEKPVT2DeSPb46lQH/2p0vtwbiT0QcKap13jW4z5X +Zw0dXBULTlFE2lp6nGDaK2QaxSJMocQc6oztM7vm/k1CObR2lfmZ8dg5tGh6Iar YaIqJ0dn7Znz0NQ6+PUTVHVdOA1aqJRj+CfbYGiw5DDZIUELJxDLT0YhCDujbUDE eTx5PQyEzvXtX7EBIwFZ4GDDUBOZ/JKIDBbDfire5I7HR2BSIg6B8yU+ZYk3laVM EHIQtuWktxQHXpoEgr4cSJL+BQCSBCC4MWwAYqk/bpNDwsNyn8NOB2k00TnS/8p5 zxN2qMCkyAEUE0UGQbciMT36wDuvDeGFifb/nwIRFYMPpbArhQ8pWuXBUG7OeFc= =yn5J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members
Patrick, That's a good effort getting through the EC2 set-up! > Hi all, > > Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated server. > Patrick ZAJDA A place to look for lower cost virtual private servers is http://lowendbox.com and as well from that http://lowendtalk.com/categories/offers Robert ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members
On 01/15/2014 06:51 PM, Alexander Dietrich wrote: > My interpretation of the docs ("When two servers both declare that they > are in the same family") would be that configuring only one side of the > relation has no effect. But someone with more in-depth knowledge should > probably confirm this. That is correct. It only makes sense to set MyFamily once you run more than one non-bridge relay. I am unsure right now why exactly a bridge should not be listed respectively list a family, other than you leak the existence of the bridge(s). -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/ ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members
>I am unsure right now why exactly a bridge >should not be listed respectively list a family, other than you leak the >existence of the bridge(s). Actually this is the exact and only reason. From the DOC: "Do not list any bridge relay as it would compromise its concealment" So, dont list those friendly bridges in your MyFamily settings. BR Felix ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members
Please! I am not participate in this forum anymore! Any e mail that coming after this will be reported to Uk intelligence police (M15) Be aware pls with all posts or e mails here ! Have a nice weekend to all > On 15 Jan 2014, at 17:29, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Alexander, > > Yes, I was talking about the MyFamily setting. > So I'll only put the relay in the bridge configuration. > > Thanks, > > Patrick > Le 15/01/2014 17:59, Alexander Dietrich a écrit : >> If you are talking about the "MyFamily" setting, the documentation >> is very clear on this: "Do not list any bridge relay as it would >> compromise its concealment." >> >> Best regards, Alexander --- PGP Key: 0xC55A356B | >> https://dietrich.cx/pgp >> >> On 2014-01-15 15:57, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: Hi all, >> >> Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated >> server. >> >> I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all >> relay which are from the same owner. >> >> If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint >> to the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge >> configuration? >> >> Thanks, >>> >>> ___ tor-relays >>> mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >> ___ tor-relays mailing >> list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > - -- > Patrick ZAJDA > Skype : gansta93 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS1sV5AAoJEKPVT2DeSPb46lQH/2p0vtwbiT0QcKap13jW4z5X > +Zw0dXBULTlFE2lp6nGDaK2QaxSJMocQc6oztM7vm/k1CObR2lfmZ8dg5tGh6Iar > YaIqJ0dn7Znz0NQ6+PUTVHVdOA1aqJRj+CfbYGiw5DDZIUELJxDLT0YhCDujbUDE > eTx5PQyEzvXtX7EBIwFZ4GDDUBOZ/JKIDBbDfire5I7HR2BSIg6B8yU+ZYk3laVM > EHIQtuWktxQHXpoEgr4cSJL+BQCSBCC4MWwAYqk/bpNDwsNyn8NOB2k00TnS/8p5 > zxN2qMCkyAEUE0UGQbciMT36wDuvDeGFifb/nwIRFYMPpbArhQ8pWuXBUG7OeFc= > =yn5J > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > <0xDE48F6F8.asc> > <0xDE48F6F8.asc.sig> > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays