[tor-relays] Relay / Bridge

2013-12-01 Thread Sebastian Urbach

Hi,

Your system is now lsted:

ec2bridgerocks001

https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/50855F45464DBE84E917B0ED74E2144E785BA024
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Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge

2013-12-08 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:32:09PM +0100, Sebastian Urbach wrote:
> Your system is now lsted:
> 
> ec2bridgerocks001
> 
> https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/50855F45464DBE84E917B0ED74E2144E785BA024

It appears that you're running a *relay* on EC2?

With a nickname implying that you think it's a bridge?

Making it a public relay might be more expensive than you are expecting.

Did you have to reconfigure it manually to be a public relay, or was
this an easy-to-make accident?

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Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge

2013-12-10 Thread Conrad Rockenhaus
I apologize for the delay in responding, getting ready to move to
Texas, but anyway.  My original intention was to run one EC2 as a
public relay and another as a bridge, subject to bandwidth throttling,
however, after thinking about it for about a day (I saw your email
last night) I realized that a bridge that is bandwidth throttling
might be more useful than a public relay that is bandwidth throttling.

So I'll fix it this evening, unless there's a reason not to.

Thanks.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Roger Dingledine  wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:32:09PM +0100, Sebastian Urbach wrote:
>> Your system is now lsted:
>>
>> ec2bridgerocks001
>>
>> https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/50855F45464DBE84E917B0ED74E2144E785BA024
>
> It appears that you're running a *relay* on EC2?
>
> With a nickname implying that you think it's a bridge?
>
> Making it a public relay might be more expensive than you are expecting.
>
> Did you have to reconfigure it manually to be a public relay, or was
> this an easy-to-make accident?
>
> --Roger
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Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge

2013-12-12 Thread Conrad Rockenhaus
I built a new EC2 bridge at US East (NOVA) due to the fact that the
one at California was published as a public relay.  I apologize for
the error Roger.

On an unrelated note, has there been any success in expanding the Tor
cloud project to other cloud service providers?  Is there anyway to
volunteer to try to help out, if there's a willingness to expand it to
other providers?  Thanks.

--Rock

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Conrad Rockenhaus
 wrote:
> I apologize for the delay in responding, getting ready to move to
> Texas, but anyway.  My original intention was to run one EC2 as a
> public relay and another as a bridge, subject to bandwidth throttling,
> however, after thinking about it for about a day (I saw your email
> last night) I realized that a bridge that is bandwidth throttling
> might be more useful than a public relay that is bandwidth throttling.
>
> So I'll fix it this evening, unless there's a reason not to.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Roger Dingledine  wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:32:09PM +0100, Sebastian Urbach wrote:
>>> Your system is now lsted:
>>>
>>> ec2bridgerocks001
>>>
>>> https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/50855F45464DBE84E917B0ED74E2144E785BA024
>>
>> It appears that you're running a *relay* on EC2?
>>
>> With a nickname implying that you think it's a bridge?
>>
>> Making it a public relay might be more expensive than you are expecting.
>>
>> Did you have to reconfigure it manually to be a public relay, or was
>> this an easy-to-make accident?
>>
>> --Roger
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Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge

2013-12-16 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Conrad Rockenhaus
 wrote:
> On an unrelated note, has there been any success in expanding the Tor
> cloud project to other cloud service providers?  Is there anyway to
> volunteer to try to help out, if there's a willingness to expand it to
> other providers?  Thanks.

I did some research a year or so ago, but was unable to find anything
that was as cheap *and* easy as AWS. There are cloud providers with
lower prices, but they do not enable users to publish and use instance
templates the same way AWS does.

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Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge

2013-12-16 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 12/16/2013 03:48 PM, Runa A. Sandvik wrote:
>> On an unrelated note, has there been any success in expanding the Tor
>> cloud project to other cloud service providers?  Is there anyway to
>> volunteer to try to help out, if there's a willingness to expand it to
>> other providers?  Thanks.
> I did some research a year or so ago, but was unable to find anything
> that was as cheap *and* easy as AWS. There are cloud providers with
> lower prices, but they do not enable users to publish and use instance
> templates the same way AWS does.

We're currently working on automating Tor relay and bridge deployment
using Ansible scripts [ https://github.com/ansible/ansible ].

All it needs is SSH access, everything else will be pulled in and
configured using Ansible. This should then work for all 'cloud
providers' (or old-style VPS), and in my eyes is a more sustainable and
decentralized way of doing "Tor cloud".

Another component that we work on at the moment is a homebrewed Python
monitoring software for relays, which in the long term could be a nice
feature to have apart from the generic traffic stats you get from Amazon.

We will have a first report end of this month with the specs, hopefully
attracting more people to join the fun. Hannes, Daniel, Christian, feel
free to share what you're doing with this list. :-)

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Re: [tor-relays] Relay / Bridge

2013-12-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
I am setting one up on Azure right now.  Will report back.


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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Runa A. Sandvik wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Conrad Rockenhaus
>  wrote:
> > On an unrelated note, has there been any success in expanding the Tor
> > cloud project to other cloud service providers?  Is there anyway to
> > volunteer to try to help out, if there's a willingness to expand it to
> > other providers?  Thanks.
>
> I did some research a year or so ago, but was unable to find anything
> that was as cheap *and* easy as AWS. There are cloud providers with
> lower prices, but they do not enable users to publish and use instance
> templates the same way AWS does.
>
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[tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members

2014-01-15 Thread Patrick ZAJDA
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Hi all,

Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated server.

I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all relay
which are from the same owner.

If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint to
the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge configuration?

Thanks,
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Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members

2014-01-15 Thread Alexander Dietrich
If you are talking about the "MyFamily" setting, the documentation is 
very clear on this:

"Do not list any bridge relay as it would compromise its concealment."

Best regards,
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On 2014-01-15 15:57, Patrick ZAJDA wrote:

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Hi all,

Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated 
server.


I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all relay
which are from the same owner.

If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint to
the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge 
configuration?


Thanks,
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Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members

2014-01-15 Thread Patrick ZAJDA
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Hi Alexander,

Yes, I was talking about the MyFamily setting.
So I'll only put the relay in the bridge configuration.

Thanks,

Patrick
Le 15/01/2014 17:59, Alexander Dietrich a écrit :
> If you are talking about the "MyFamily" setting, the documentation
> is very clear on this: "Do not list any bridge relay as it would
> compromise its concealment."
> 
> Best regards, Alexander --- PGP Key: 0xC55A356B |
> https://dietrich.cx/pgp
> 
> On 2014-01-15 15:57, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: Hi all,
> 
> Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated
> server.
> 
> I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all
> relay which are from the same owner.
> 
> If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint
> to the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge
> configuration?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members

2014-01-15 Thread Alexander Dietrich
My interpretation of the docs ("When two servers both declare that they 
are in the same family") would be that configuring only one side of the 
relation has no effect. But someone with more in-depth knowledge should 
probably confirm this.


Best regards,
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On 2014-01-15 18:29, Patrick ZAJDA wrote:

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Hi Alexander,

Yes, I was talking about the MyFamily setting.
So I'll only put the relay in the bridge configuration.

Thanks,

Patrick
Le 15/01/2014 17:59, Alexander Dietrich a écrit :

If you are talking about the "MyFamily" setting, the documentation
is very clear on this: "Do not list any bridge relay as it would
compromise its concealment."

Best regards, Alexander --- PGP Key: 0xC55A356B |
https://dietrich.cx/pgp

On 2014-01-15 15:57, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: Hi all,

Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated
server.

I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all
relay which are from the same owner.

If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint
to the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge
configuration?

Thanks,


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Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members

2014-01-15 Thread I
Patrick,

That's a good effort getting through the EC2 set-up!

> Hi all,
> 
> Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated server.
> Patrick ZAJDA

A place to look for lower cost virtual private servers is http://lowendbox.com 
and as well from that http://lowendtalk.com/categories/offers  

Robert




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Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members

2014-01-15 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 01/15/2014 06:51 PM, Alexander Dietrich wrote:
> My interpretation of the docs ("When two servers both declare that they
> are in the same family") would be that configuring only one side of the
> relation has no effect. But someone with more in-depth knowledge should
> probably confirm this.

That is correct. It only makes sense to set MyFamily once you run more
than one non-bridge relay. I am unsure right now why exactly a bridge
should not be listed respectively list a family, other than you leak the
existence of the bridge(s).

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Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members

2014-01-16 Thread Felix Büdenhölzer
>I am unsure right now why exactly a bridge
>should not be listed respectively list a family, other than you leak the
>existence of the bridge(s).

 

Actually this is the exact and only reason. From the DOC:

"Do not list any bridge relay as it would compromise its concealment"

 

So, dont list those friendly bridges in your MyFamily settings.

 

BR

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Re: [tor-relays] Relay, bridge, and family members

2014-01-17 Thread Fabiano London
Please! I am not participate in this forum anymore! Any e mail that coming 
after this will be reported to Uk intelligence police (M15) 
Be aware pls with all posts or e mails here !
Have a nice weekend to all  

> On 15 Jan 2014, at 17:29, Patrick ZAJDA  wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> Yes, I was talking about the MyFamily setting.
> So I'll only put the relay in the bridge configuration.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Patrick
> Le 15/01/2014 17:59, Alexander Dietrich a écrit :
>> If you are talking about the "MyFamily" setting, the documentation
>> is very clear on this: "Do not list any bridge relay as it would
>> compromise its concealment."
>> 
>> Best regards, Alexander --- PGP Key: 0xC55A356B |
>> https://dietrich.cx/pgp
>> 
>> On 2014-01-15 15:57, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: Hi all,
>> 
>> Now I created a bridge, I'd like to create a relay on a dedicated
>> server.
>> 
>> I read about the FamilyMembers configuration value, to list all
>> relay which are from the same owner.
>> 
>> If I create another relay, do I have to put the bridge fingerprint
>> to the new relay and put the relay fingerprint in the bridge
>> configuration?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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