Re: [tor-relays] [SPAM] Re: Jerk spammers on tor-relays

[Nathaniel Suchy]

I use Google’s G Suite with my personal domain name for email. They let you
drop emails or send them to spam if they contain certain words or phrases.
Beyond that disable conversation view and press report spam on the
individual emails and hope the spam filter improves to the point you no
longer get these emails.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:41 PM Keifer Bly  wrote:

> I just had another thought. Is it possible to block certain keywords on
> the list? I just thought one thing that could be worth doing is filtering
> emails sent to the list that contain words like "sex", cusswords and words
> that are names of body parts, etc. Again this wouldn't do much in terms of
> them attacking our personal email addresses :-(.
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 1:25 PM Keifer Bly  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>- There are lots of technical folk on these tor lists.
>>
>> There ought to be at least a few who'd enjoy killing some spam servers.
>>
>>
>>
>> What exactly do you mean by “killing them”? If you are referring to
>> forcibly taking the servers offline, that would most likely be illegal. Not
>> to mention an amount of the spamming addresses are using Gmail and Yahoo
>> mail accounts, and we can’t “kill” those sources.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, one approach we could try to get rid of the spammers is the
>> same approach that tor uses to distribute bridge relays (somewhat) as in we
>> all report back to the list email addresses we are currently receiving spam
>> from and then report to the list administrator to block those email
>> addresses. Of course, the fact that the spammers are now attacking our
>> personal email addresses would mean we would have to block the spamming
>> addresses in our email accounts as well. Gmail, as well is I’m sure most to
>> all of the other big name email providers allow to block emails from
>> certain email addresses by creating a filter to automatically delete emails
>> from that email address by going into the settings and filters. This may be
>> a bit of a pain for those running personal mail servers, and I know it is a
>> far from perfect stop, but it is something.
>>
>>
>>
>>- I don't see that as a great improvement. Sex spam doesn't bother me.
>>
>>
>>
>> The content isn’t “deeply disturbing” me either, but I use this email
>> address and it is annoying to have it getting spam. And the spammers are
>> being smart to bypass email providers spam filters by sending them from
>> email domains that are legitimate email providers (gmail.com, yahoo.com,
>> etc).
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you all think of this solution?
>>
>> *From: *Mirimir 
>> *Sent: *Friday, September 21, 2018 11:47 AM
>> *To: *tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
>> *Subject: *Re: [tor-relays] Jerk spammers on tor-relays
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/21/2018 10:50 AM, Andreas Krey wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:23:48 +, Ralph Seichter wrote:
>>
>> > ...
>>
>> >> I'm not sure what type of spam you are referring to, but when I post to
>>
>> >> this mailing list I see spamming attempts that are directly targeting
>> my
>>
>> >> MX, without using the mailing list infrastructure. The list admins
>> would
>>
>> >> not be able to reliably correlate which subscribed address is "A" even
>>
>> >> if I shared my mail logs.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Create a dummy mail address. Make the list server send out mails from
>>
>> > that address very slowly at random times to the recipients. See when
>>
>> > the spam arrives on the dummy address. Repeat as many times as needed
>>
>> > to get sufficient correlation between spam arrival and mail distribution
>>
>> > timepoints.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > - Andreas
>>
>>
>>
>> Cool idea :)
>>
>>
>>
>> But then we'd all be getting spammed by those test messages ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't see that as a great improvement. Sex spam doesn't bother me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another alternative is tracking down and killing the spam sources. It'd
>>
>> be a huge project, and maybe a little morally iffy. But as Marv says in
>>
>> "Sin City": "I love hitmen. No matter what you do to them, you don't
>>
>> feel bad." So hey. There are lots of technical folk on these tor lists.
>>
>> There ought to be at least a few who'd enjoy killing some spam servers.
>>
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Keifer Bly]

It appears so, I still know a few people that use yahoo mail. Anyway I reported 
the spam emails to them and well we will see what they say. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:00 AM, ha...@d-ku.de wrote:
> 
> Hey, new here - long time only reading the mails:
> 
> But.. Yahoo is still alive and someone is for real using it? o.O
> 
> 16. Juni 2018 16:55, "Keifer Bly"  schrieb:
> 
>> Hi all, I wanted to inform that via the emails that have been coming from 
>> yahoo mail addresses, I
>> reported those yahoo email
>> addresses to Yahoo via there spam report page at
>> https://io.help.yahoo.com/contact/index?page=contactform=en_US=Zh%2FBBVqXzLHlIbokbUqVWZ
>> z8ElV6Yl7dnHn67FP9aovfRkHSbpL250D%2BNv8Cir%2B2dmTfF99U40LNX4ZGpPvRgTwBV8VdzMq6qSgVYhyyV46B70bSKqkrRL
>> dG8ZcBxl%2FVdYyq1hHKS2ih8aENLJClsrrSiVRxs4=email-icon.
>> 
>> Haven’t gotten a response yet but will let know what happens, thanks yall.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
>>> 
 On 06/15/2018 07:18 AM, The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510] wrote:
 
>>> 
 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>>> 
 
>>> 
> On June 14, 2018 8:33 AM, nusenu  wrote:
 
 
>>> 
> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
>>> 
> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com
>>> 
 
>>> 
 Confirmed. I've killfiled messages from that address, but they're still 
 coming in.
>>> 
 
>>> 
 Is anybody else getting messages that purport to have CCNs in them? Three 
 or four out of the two
 dozen this week have had them.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I've received those too. I doubt that they're valid.
>>> 
>>> Upon reflection, I don't believe that there's any human management. The
>>> progression after the initial message is pretty consistent, with maybe a
>>> couple forks. Maybe I'll look carefully when I have a larger sample.
>>> 
>>> Replying is pointless, I think. All they want is traffic to the various
>>> "dating" sites.
>>> 
 ​The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
>>> 
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>>> 
 WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[hallo]

Hey, new here - long time only reading the mails:

But.. Yahoo is still alive and someone is for real using it? o.O

16. Juni 2018 16:55, "Keifer Bly"  schrieb:

> Hi all, I wanted to inform that via the emails that have been coming from 
> yahoo mail addresses, I
> reported those yahoo email
> addresses to Yahoo via there spam report page at
> https://io.help.yahoo.com/contact/index?page=contactform=en_US=Zh%2FBBVqXzLHlIbokbUqVWZ
> z8ElV6Yl7dnHn67FP9aovfRkHSbpL250D%2BNv8Cir%2B2dmTfF99U40LNX4ZGpPvRgTwBV8VdzMq6qSgVYhyyV46B70bSKqkrRL
> dG8ZcBxl%2FVdYyq1hHKS2ih8aENLJClsrrSiVRxs4=email-icon.
> 
> Haven’t gotten a response yet but will let know what happens, thanks yall.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 15, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
> 
>> On 06/15/2018 07:18 AM, The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510] wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On June 14, 2018 8:33 AM, nusenu  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
 this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
>> 
 last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Confirmed. I've killfiled messages from that address, but they're still 
>>> coming in.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Is anybody else getting messages that purport to have CCNs in them? Three 
>>> or four out of the two
>>> dozen this week have had them.
>> 
>> Yes, I've received those too. I doubt that they're valid.
>> 
>> Upon reflection, I don't believe that there's any human management. The
>> progression after the initial message is pretty consistent, with maybe a
>> couple forks. Maybe I'll look carefully when I have a larger sample.
>> 
>> Replying is pointless, I think. All they want is traffic to the various
>> "dating" sites.
>> 
>>> ​The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
>> 
>>> PGP (new!): 4d7d 5c94 fa44 a235
>> 
>>> WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Keifer Bly]

Hi all, I wanted to inform that via the emails that have been coming from yahoo 
mail addresses, I reported those yahoo email
addresses to Yahoo via there spam report page at 
https://io.help.yahoo.com/contact/index?page=contactform=en_US=Zh%2FBBVqXzLHlIbokbUqVWZdz8ElV6Yl7dnHn67FP9aovfRkHSbpL250D%2BNv8Cir%2B2dmTfF99U40LNX4ZGpPvRgTwBV8VdzMq6qSgVYhyyV46B70bSKqkrRLQdG8ZcBxl%2FVdYyq1hHKS2ih8aENLJClsrrSiVRxs4=email-icon.

Haven’t gotten a response yet but will let know what happens, thanks yall.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
> 
>> On 06/15/2018 07:18 AM, The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510] wrote:
>> 
>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> 
>>> On June 14, 2018 8:33 AM, nusenu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
>>> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com
>> 
>> Confirmed.  I've killfiled messages from that address, but they're still 
>> coming in.
>> 
>> Is anybody else getting messages that purport to have CCNs in them?  Three 
>> or four out of the two dozen this week have had them.
> 
> Yes, I've received those too. I doubt that they're valid.
> 
> Upon reflection, I don't believe that there's any human management. The
> progression after the initial message is pretty consistent, with maybe a
> couple forks. Maybe I'll look carefully when I have a larger sample.
> 
> Replying is pointless, I think. All they want is traffic to the various
> "dating" sites.
> 
>> ​The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
>> PGP (new!): 4d7d 5c94  fa44 a235
>> WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
>> TOYNBEE IDEA IN KUBRICK'S 2001 RESURRECT DEAD ON PLANET JUPITER​
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Keifer Bly]

Me too man! I have created a filter in my Gmail to automatically delete the 
pesky emails but I am still getting them anyway. I will file another abuse 
report to that email address.

From: The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 11:19 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 14, 2018 8:33 AM, nusenu  wrote:

> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com

Confirmed.  I've killfiled messages from that address, but they're still coming 
in.

Is anybody else getting messages that purport to have CCNs in them?  Three or 
four out of the two dozen this week have had them.

​The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
PGP (new!): 4d7d 5c94  fa44 a235
WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Mirimir]

On 06/15/2018 07:18 AM, The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510] wrote:
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> 
> On June 14, 2018 8:33 AM, nusenu  wrote:
> 
>> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
>> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com
> 
> Confirmed.  I've killfiled messages from that address, but they're still 
> coming in.
> 
> Is anybody else getting messages that purport to have CCNs in them?  Three or 
> four out of the two dozen this week have had them.

Yes, I've received those too. I doubt that they're valid.

Upon reflection, I don't believe that there's any human management. The
progression after the initial message is pretty consistent, with maybe a
couple forks. Maybe I'll look carefully when I have a larger sample.

Replying is pointless, I think. All they want is traffic to the various
"dating" sites.

> ​The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
> PGP (new!): 4d7d 5c94  fa44 a235
> WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
> TOYNBEE IDEA IN KUBRICK'S 2001 RESURRECT DEAD ON PLANET JUPITER​
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]]

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 14, 2018 8:33 AM, nusenu  wrote:

> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com

Confirmed.  I've killfiled messages from that address, but they're still coming 
in.

Is anybody else getting messages that purport to have CCNs in them?  Three or 
four out of the two dozen this week have had them.

​The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
PGP (new!): 4d7d 5c94  fa44 a235
WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Keifer Bly]

The first time I got one it just said “Hey I want to talk to you”. It did not 
contain any pictures or anything, so I did not know what was going on. I 
replied and asked if she was from the list, and I got another email back asking 
me for my picture, etc (which I ignored). So, given by that it knows how to 
sword and send replies, I would surmise that there is a human that is sending 
them, yes.

> On Jun 15, 2018, at 8:53 AM, to...@protonmail.com wrote:
> 
> Well darn if I didn't just get spammed (first time) when I replied to 
> "metrixbot broken" email just now.  (camrynbentley554167 at mv.ovsum.com, who 
> wants to trade pics with me..)
> 
> --torix
> 
> 
> ​Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.​
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> 
> On June 14, 2018 11:33 AM, nusenu  wrote:
> 
>> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
>> 
>> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://mastodon.social/@nusenu
>> 
>> twitter: @nusenu_
>> 
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[torix]

Well darn if I didn't just get spammed (first time) when I replied to 
"metrixbot broken" email just now.  (camrynbentley554167 at mv.ovsum.com, who 
wants to trade pics with me..)

--torix


​Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 14, 2018 11:33 AM, nusenu  wrote:

> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
> 
> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> https://mastodon.social/@nusenu
> 
> twitter: @nusenu_
> 
> tor-relays mailing list
> 
> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> 
> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays


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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Damien Gray]

could be she much alone

nusenu:
> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
> 
> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Mirimir]

On 06/14/2018 04:33 AM, nusenu wrote:
> this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.
> 
> last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com

It seems that they've given up on me, after some days with no reply. So
is that a pattern for y'all?

I finally did review the images, in a Debian LiveCD with no network
connectivity. They're not bad porn, really. Images from Becky and Camryn
have no obvious watermarks, but those from Rose are marked
"cherryscott". And they're clearly @CherryScott23. If I could, I'd tweet
her about the ripoff.

So anyway, our spammer is clearly using stock image libraries. And maybe
that was obvious.

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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[nusenu]

this kind of spam also happens if you post emails to tor-dev.

last spam sender address: rosegregory714...@cc.mexyst.com



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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Colin Childs]

Just to fill in that information, the list I was referring to has 5 people on 
it (same 5 since it started) and by “closed”, I mean only the 5 of us were only 
ever able to register.

The archive has been open since the list began, and a few of us have been 
experiencing similar issues to what has been reported on this list. Not saying 
its whats happening here, but could be a useful note.

> On Jun 13, 2018, at 1:54 AM, grarpamp  wrote:
> 
> There's no point in overhead of repeatedly trolling and
> processing out stale archives when you can get valuable
> live bodies delivered instantly to your parsers for far less
> cost and work.
> 
> There are probably spam subs in Colin's list too,
> he didn't say which list, what exactly "closed" means,
> what subcount there is going back to when, etc.
> 
> Remote clouds and rspamd have learned them
> already since a while, faster, before they get shutdown.
> 
> Spooks are harder to kill than a little spam, work on those ;)
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[grarpamp]

There's no point in overhead of repeatedly trolling and
processing out stale archives when you can get valuable
live bodies delivered instantly to your parsers for far less
cost and work.

There are probably spam subs in Colin's list too,
he didn't say which list, what exactly "closed" means,
what subcount there is going back to when, etc.

Remote clouds and rspamd have learned them
already since a while, faster, before they get shutdown.

Spooks are harder to kill than a little spam, work on those ;)
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Keifer Bly]

It seems to be coming from slightly different email addresses, so that is 
difficult to tell. But it happens when I am posting to the list, not any other 
time, but I’ll receive up to ten of them within the next few minutes. What do 
you all think?

From: Paul Templeton
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 5:07 PM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org.
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List


I note that you do not receive any spam until you post to the list. So is it a 
bot subscribed to the list or is it reading the piper mail?

Paul
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Paul Templeton]

I note that you do not receive any spam until you post to the list. So is it a 
bot subscribed to the list or is it reading the piper mail?

Paul
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Mirimir]

Yes, I searched some of the spam domains, and find complaints on other
lists about basically the same spam. So it's likely not an attack on Tor
specifically. Or maybe just promotion for the linked sites.

On 06/12/2018 02:58 AM, Colin Childs wrote:
> Just to add some information:
> 
> I have started receiving these from a different (non-tor) mailing list, with 
> addresses that look similar (and exact in the case of below)
> 
> This other list is closed, however the archives are open and we are assuming 
> that the address harvesting is happening via the archive.
> 
> Its possible these spammers are operating similarly / could be the same ones.
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
>>
>> On 06/11/2018 10:56 AM, Neel Chauhan wrote:
>>> It seems that I am getting spam from a new email address:
>>> camrynbentley870...@ao.ovsum.com
>>>
>>> The pattern is that the emails are from *@*.ovsum.com addresses. Just
>>> block this pattern as well, and report your emails to SpamCop.
>>
>> Oh, and it seems that each user gets mail from a distinct sender. I get
>> it from camrynbentley963...@np.ovsum.com. So they're keeping track. I
>> wonder if they block replies from third parties.
>>
>>> -Neel Chauhan
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> https://www.neelc.org/
>>
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[Colin Childs]

Just to add some information:

I have started receiving these from a different (non-tor) mailing list, with 
addresses that look similar (and exact in the case of below)

This other list is closed, however the archives are open and we are assuming 
that the address harvesting is happening via the archive.

Its possible these spammers are operating similarly / could be the same ones.

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
> 
> On 06/11/2018 10:56 AM, Neel Chauhan wrote:
>> It seems that I am getting spam from a new email address:
>> camrynbentley870...@ao.ovsum.com
>> 
>> The pattern is that the emails are from *@*.ovsum.com addresses. Just
>> block this pattern as well, and report your emails to SpamCop.
> 
> Oh, and it seems that each user gets mail from a distinct sender. I get
> it from camrynbentley963...@np.ovsum.com. So they're keeping track. I
> wonder if they block replies from third parties.
> 
>> -Neel Chauhan
>> 
>> ===
>> 
>> https://www.neelc.org/
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[Mirimir]

On 06/11/2018 10:56 AM, Neel Chauhan wrote:
> It seems that I am getting spam from a new email address:
> camrynbentley870...@ao.ovsum.com
> 
> The pattern is that the emails are from *@*.ovsum.com addresses. Just
> block this pattern as well, and report your emails to SpamCop.

Oh, and it seems that each user gets mail from a distinct sender. I get
it from camrynbentley963...@np.ovsum.com. So they're keeping track. I
wonder if they block replies from third parties.

> -Neel Chauhan
> 
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[Mirimir]

On 06/11/2018 10:56 AM, Neel Chauhan wrote:
> It seems that I am getting spam from a new email address:
> camrynbentley870...@ao.ovsum.com
> 
> The pattern is that the emails are from *@*.ovsum.com addresses. Just
> block this pattern as well, and report your emails to SpamCop.

Yeah, that's us27.axiobyte.com [104.161.37.152].

It's hosted on mellowhost.com by Input Output Flood LLC. The abuse
contact is Gabriel Ramuglia (ab...@ioflood.com). I suggest that we all
file abuse reports.

> -Neel Chauhan
> 
> ===
> 
> https://www.neelc.org/
> 
> On 2018-06-08 20:24, Keifer Bly wrote:
>> Hello fellow relay operators,
>>
>> My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there
>> seems to be several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every time
>> I am involved in a discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 emails
>> supposedly from girls wanting to meet up (for sex). The emails in
>> question claim they are sent from email address
>> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the same email
>> subject of the discussion I was involved in).
>>
>> I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would block
>> all emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering what
>> could be done about this (the email provider in question is Gmail).
>>
>> Thank you.
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Neel Chauhan]

It seems that I am getting spam from a new email address: 
camrynbentley870...@ao.ovsum.com


The pattern is that the emails are from *@*.ovsum.com addresses. Just 
block this pattern as well, and report your emails to SpamCop.


-Neel Chauhan

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On 2018-06-08 20:24, Keifer Bly wrote:

Hello fellow relay operators,

My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there
seems to be several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every time
I am involved in a discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 emails
supposedly from girls wanting to meet up (for sex). The emails in
question claim they are sent from email address
tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the same email
subject of the discussion I was involved in).

I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would block
all emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering what
could be done about this (the email provider in question is Gmail).

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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Neel Chauhan]

I've gotten these emails as well. Since I have my own email server, I 
configured Postfix to block the spam address. For me, the address was 
consistently the same. I thought that it was just a problem with my spam 
filter, but looking here even Gmail users got these messages.


I also uploaded a few of these messages to SpamCop (and if you still 
have your emails, you should also).


IMHO we should just block emails from *.mexyst.com domains (it seems 
everyone got a different sending address), no matter what email we use. 
Gmail, Outlook, ProtonMail, Riseup, or even your own server if you're 
like me.


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On 2018-06-09 00:08, Mirimir wrote:

On 06/08/2018 04:06 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
I receive them whenever I send a note to this address, starting with 
the first time I participated in a conversation with this thread. 
Thank you.


Wow, that's bizarre! I thought that you meant occasionally, not after
every post. But still, someone could be watching for your posts, and
then sending spam to you with tor-relays@lists.torproject.org as a
spoofed from header.

I get that this is off-topic, and that most of you are rolling your
eyes. But if anyone else has seen this, I'd like to know.

And as I've said, I'm happy to review some source, and see if some
header could be used to block.


From: Mirimir
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:05 PM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

On 06/08/2018 03:48 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
Yes, but the emails are saying that they are from the 
tor-rel...@lists.tororoject.org email address. They must be spoofing 
the email address it’s coming from somehow. I just thought that I’d 
say something as given that they are making their emails come from 
that email address could mean that these spammers could have somehow 
gotten who is subscribed to the relay mailing list as this is my 
personal email and not a school or company owned google account, no 
one else has access to this email account but me so not sure how they 
would have known I am subscribed. I would supply a copy of the email 
but that may be tough as they contain nudity and graphically 
intensive language.


How long have you been receiving them? I see that your first post to 
the
list was on 2018-04-10. Anyone, whether subscribed or not, can get 
that

from http://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/.

Please feel comfortable sending message source for one of them to me.
Not just forwarding. Get the source text (in Thunderbird, it's just
"View Source") and email as an attachment.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 8, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Mirimir  wrote:


On 06/08/2018 01:24 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
Hello fellow relay operators,

My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there 
seems to be several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every 
time I am involved in a discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 
emails supposedly from girls wanting to meet up (for sex). The 
emails in question claim they are sent from email address 
tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the same email 
subject of the discussion I was involved in).


I don't recall seeing such messages. So they must be spoofing the 
from

address.

I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would 
block all emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering 
what could be done about this (the email provider in question is 
Gmail).


Maybe there's something in the headers that could be filtered on.

Also, I recall reading that Gmail doesn't actually parse headers
properly. If from address is spoofed to your address, it goes in 
your

outbox :) So maybe you need to use an old-school email client.


Thank you.



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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[pikami]

I also got spamed on 2018-06-05 with an email address 
"kirstiea.lucey464...@cz.mexyst.com"
No adress spoofing involved.

On 2018 m. birželio 9 d. 11:07:00 GMT+03:00, nusenu  
wrote:
>I also got spam as an off-list reply after sending an email to this 
>list (starting with 2018-06-05) but there is no spoofing involved and
>the from is
>"kirstiea.lucey536...@fk.mexyst.com"
>
>which made it easy to simply filter/delete emails from that address
>without causing any further annoyance until they change the address.
>
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[nusenu]

I also got spam as an off-list reply after sending an email to this 
list (starting with 2018-06-05) but there is no spoofing involved and the from 
is
"kirstiea.lucey536...@fk.mexyst.com"

which made it easy to simply filter/delete emails from that address
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[gerard]

I may be missing something, but does the domain torproject.org have DNS set SPF 
strict, DKIM, DMARC set up?

Gerry

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Le 8 juin 2018 21:18:41 GMT-04:00, Mirimir  a écrit :
>Maybe there's something in the headers that could be filtered on.
>
Maybe you could filter on the List-Id header (or rather on its absence).

I don't know what can be done on gmail tho.
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[Johan Fleury]

Le 8 juin 2018 21:18:41 GMT-04:00, Mirimir  a écrit :
>Maybe there's something in the headers that could be filtered on.
>
Maybe you could filter on the List-Id header (or rather on its absence).

I don't know what can be done on gmail tho.
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Mirimir]

On 06/08/2018 04:06 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
> I receive them whenever I send a note to this address, starting with the 
> first time I participated in a conversation with this thread. Thank you.

Wow, that's bizarre! I thought that you meant occasionally, not after
every post. But still, someone could be watching for your posts, and
then sending spam to you with tor-relays@lists.torproject.org as a
spoofed from header.

I get that this is off-topic, and that most of you are rolling your
eyes. But if anyone else has seen this, I'd like to know.

And as I've said, I'm happy to review some source, and see if some
header could be used to block.

> From: Mirimir
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:05 PM
> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List
> 
> On 06/08/2018 03:48 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
>> Yes, but the emails are saying that they are from the 
>> tor-rel...@lists.tororoject.org email address. They must be spoofing the 
>> email address it’s coming from somehow. I just thought that I’d say 
>> something as given that they are making their emails come from that email 
>> address could mean that these spammers could have somehow gotten who is 
>> subscribed to the relay mailing list as this is my personal email and not a 
>> school or company owned google account, no one else has access to this email 
>> account but me so not sure how they would have known I am subscribed. I 
>> would supply a copy of the email but that may be tough as they contain 
>> nudity and graphically intensive language.
> 
> How long have you been receiving them? I see that your first post to the
> list was on 2018-04-10. Anyone, whether subscribed or not, can get that
> from http://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/.
> 
> Please feel comfortable sending message source for one of them to me.
> Not just forwarding. Get the source text (in Thunderbird, it's just
> "View Source") and email as an attachment.
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/08/2018 01:24 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
>>>> Hello fellow relay operators,
>>>>
>>>> My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there seems to 
>>>> be several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every time I am involved 
>>>> in a discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 emails supposedly from girls 
>>>> wanting to meet up (for sex). The emails in question claim they are sent 
>>>> from email address tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the 
>>>> same email subject of the discussion I was involved in).
>>>
>>> I don't recall seeing such messages. So they must be spoofing the from
>>> address.
>>>
>>>> I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would block all 
>>>> emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering what could be 
>>>> done about this (the email provider in question is Gmail).
>>>
>>> Maybe there's something in the headers that could be filtered on.
>>>
>>> Also, I recall reading that Gmail doesn't actually parse headers
>>> properly. If from address is spoofed to your address, it goes in your
>>> outbox :) So maybe you need to use an old-school email client.
>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>
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[Keifer Bly]

I receive them whenever I send a note to this address, starting with the first 
time I participated in a conversation with this thread. Thank you.

From: Mirimir
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:05 PM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

On 06/08/2018 03:48 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
> Yes, but the emails are saying that they are from the 
> tor-rel...@lists.tororoject.org email address. They must be spoofing the 
> email address it’s coming from somehow. I just thought that I’d say something 
> as given that they are making their emails come from that email address could 
> mean that these spammers could have somehow gotten who is subscribed to the 
> relay mailing list as this is my personal email and not a school or company 
> owned google account, no one else has access to this email account but me so 
> not sure how they would have known I am subscribed. I would supply a copy of 
> the email but that may be tough as they contain nudity and graphically 
> intensive language.

How long have you been receiving them? I see that your first post to the
list was on 2018-04-10. Anyone, whether subscribed or not, can get that
from http://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/.

Please feel comfortable sending message source for one of them to me.
Not just forwarding. Get the source text (in Thunderbird, it's just
"View Source") and email as an attachment.

> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/08/2018 01:24 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
>>> Hello fellow relay operators,
>>>
>>> My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there seems to 
>>> be several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every time I am involved 
>>> in a discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 emails supposedly from girls 
>>> wanting to meet up (for sex). The emails in question claim they are sent 
>>> from email address tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the 
>>> same email subject of the discussion I was involved in).
>>
>> I don't recall seeing such messages. So they must be spoofing the from
>> address.
>>
>>> I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would block all 
>>> emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering what could be done 
>>> about this (the email provider in question is Gmail).
>>
>> Maybe there's something in the headers that could be filtered on.
>>
>> Also, I recall reading that Gmail doesn't actually parse headers
>> properly. If from address is spoofed to your address, it goes in your
>> outbox :) So maybe you need to use an old-school email client.
>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
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[Mirimir]

On 06/08/2018 03:48 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
> Yes, but the emails are saying that they are from the 
> tor-rel...@lists.tororoject.org email address. They must be spoofing the 
> email address it’s coming from somehow. I just thought that I’d say something 
> as given that they are making their emails come from that email address could 
> mean that these spammers could have somehow gotten who is subscribed to the 
> relay mailing list as this is my personal email and not a school or company 
> owned google account, no one else has access to this email account but me so 
> not sure how they would have known I am subscribed. I would supply a copy of 
> the email but that may be tough as they contain nudity and graphically 
> intensive language.

How long have you been receiving them? I see that your first post to the
list was on 2018-04-10. Anyone, whether subscribed or not, can get that
from http://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/.

Please feel comfortable sending message source for one of them to me.
Not just forwarding. Get the source text (in Thunderbird, it's just
"View Source") and email as an attachment.

> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/08/2018 01:24 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
>>> Hello fellow relay operators,
>>>
>>> My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there seems to 
>>> be several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every time I am involved 
>>> in a discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 emails supposedly from girls 
>>> wanting to meet up (for sex). The emails in question claim they are sent 
>>> from email address tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the 
>>> same email subject of the discussion I was involved in).
>>
>> I don't recall seeing such messages. So they must be spoofing the from
>> address.
>>
>>> I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would block all 
>>> emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering what could be done 
>>> about this (the email provider in question is Gmail).
>>
>> Maybe there's something in the headers that could be filtered on.
>>
>> Also, I recall reading that Gmail doesn't actually parse headers
>> properly. If from address is spoofed to your address, it goes in your
>> outbox :) So maybe you need to use an old-school email client.
>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
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[Keifer Bly]

Yes, but the emails are saying that they are from the 
tor-rel...@lists.tororoject.org email address. They must be spoofing the email 
address it’s coming from somehow. I just thought that I’d say something as 
given that they are making their emails come from that email address could mean 
that these spammers could have somehow gotten who is subscribed to the relay 
mailing list as this is my personal email and not a school or company owned 
google account, no one else has access to this email account but me so not sure 
how they would have known I am subscribed. I would supply a copy of the email 
but that may be tough as they contain nudity and graphically intensive language.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
> 
>> On 06/08/2018 01:24 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
>> Hello fellow relay operators,
>> 
>> My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there seems to 
>> be several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every time I am involved 
>> in a discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 emails supposedly from girls 
>> wanting to meet up (for sex). The emails in question claim they are sent 
>> from email address tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the same 
>> email subject of the discussion I was involved in).
> 
> I don't recall seeing such messages. So they must be spoofing the from
> address.
> 
>> I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would block all 
>> emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering what could be done 
>> about this (the email provider in question is Gmail).
> 
> Maybe there's something in the headers that could be filtered on.
> 
> Also, I recall reading that Gmail doesn't actually parse headers
> properly. If from address is spoofed to your address, it goes in your
> outbox :) So maybe you need to use an old-school email client.
> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Mirimir]

On 06/08/2018 01:24 PM, Keifer Bly wrote:
> Hello fellow relay operators,
> 
> My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there seems to be 
> several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every time I am involved in a 
> discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 emails supposedly from girls wanting 
> to meet up (for sex). The emails in question claim they are sent from email 
> address tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the same email 
> subject of the discussion I was involved in).

I don't recall seeing such messages. So they must be spoofing the from
address.

> I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would block all 
> emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering what could be done 
> about this (the email provider in question is Gmail).

Maybe there's something in the headers that could be filtered on.

Also, I recall reading that Gmail doesn't actually parse headers
properly. If from address is spoofed to your address, it goes in your
outbox :) So maybe you need to use an old-school email client.

> Thank you.
> 
> 
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[tor-relays] Spam Emails Received From This Mailing List

[Keifer Bly]

Hello fellow relay operators,

My apologies as this is not related to tor relays, however, there seems to be 
several spammers subscribed to the relay list. Every time I am involved in a 
discussion on this list, I receive 3-5 emails supposedly from girls wanting to 
meet up (for sex). The emails in question claim they are sent from email 
address tor-relays@lists.torproject.org (and always have the same email subject 
of the discussion I was involved in).

I am somewhat in a trap as blocking them with spam filters would block all 
emails sent from the relay lists address. I am wondering what could be done 
about this (the email provider in question is Gmail).

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Re: [tor-relays] *** Spam *** 22% of bridges run by a single entity?

[niftybunny]

Not me. I only have one bridge.

niftybunny
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Where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise.

Thomas Gray 

> On 27 Mar 2017, at 17:51, nusenu  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> is it known that (likely) a single entity is running ~22% of all
> bridges?  (not the 'ki' bridges [1])
> 
> I'm not necessarily saying that this is bad, just curious and wondering
> if this is somehow known.
> Since contactinfo is removed from bridge descriptors before publication
> I can not tell whether this is i.e. torservers, Frenn vun der Enn,
> AccessNow, ...
> 
> 
> Added on [2]
> 2016-01-17
> 2016-01-18
> 2016-01-24
> 
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/2016-December/000851.html
> [2]
> https://github.com/nusenu/tor-network-observations/blob/master/bridges_added_per_day_2017-03-27.txt
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Re: [tor-relays] *** Spam *** Re: Provider Suggestion, Scaleway -- Online SAS: not so good for diversity

[niftybunny]

They are not a reseller, they are a part of the family. 

https://www.online.net/en/web

niftybunny
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> On 24 Feb 2017, at 12:06, nusenu  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> looks like they are an Online SAS reseller.
> 
> as_number: AS12876
> as_name: Online S.a.s.
> 
> That AS is the second most used autonomous system for tor relays
> 
> CW fraction: 13.8252% 
> guard probability: 16.6793%   
> exit probability:  9.4897%
> https://compass.torproject.org
> 
> So from a diversity point of view it is a bad choice I guess.
> 
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Re: [tor-relays] *** Spam *** Re: Reminder: If you are on 0.2.9.x, make sure you are running 0.2.9.9

[niftybunny]

Thats nifty! Thank you very much.


niftybunny
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> On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:15, nusenu  wrote:
> 
>> could you please tell me which three rodents are still not updated?
> 
> If you do not know where you run what version, you can ask onionoo to
> give you a list of relays with a given contact string:
> 
> https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?contact=ab...@to-surf-and-protect.net=platform,nickname
> 
> ctrl+f  "0.2.9.8"
> 
> 
> I added a feature request to filter by tor version
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/21427
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Re: [tor-relays] *** Spam *** Re: Reminder: If you are on 0.2.9.x, make sure you are running 0.2.9.9

[niftybunny]

sigh.

3 out of 33 is not too bad, right?

could you please tell me which three rodents are still not updated?


niftybunny
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> On 9 Feb 2017, at 22:45, nusenu  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Nick Mathewson:
>> there are still 700 crashable relays on the network.
> 
> The account for ~12% CW fraction.
> 
> Sadly big operators are on that list as well, i.e:
> 
> +---+-+
> | contact   | tor_version |
> +---+-+
> | 0x9F29C15D42A8B6F3 Nos oignons  | 0x9F29C15D42A8B6F3 Nos oignons  | 0x9F29C15D42A8B6F3 Nos oignons  | 0x9F29C15D42A8B6F3 Nos oignons  || 0.2.9.8 |
> || 0.2.9.8 |
> || 0.2.9.8 |
> || 0.2.9.8 |
> || 0.2.9.8 |
> || 0.2.9.8 |
> | ab...@to-surf-and-protect.net | 0.2.9.8 |
> | ab...@to-surf-and-protect.net | 0.2.9.8 |
> | ab...@to-surf-and-protect.net | 0.2.9.8 |
> | https://www.torservers.net/donate.html  | https://www.torservers.net/donate.html  | https://www.torservers.net/donate.html  | https://www.torservers.net/donate.html  | https://www.torservers.net/donate.html  | https://www.torservers.net/donate.html  | see https://www.artikel5ev.de/torcontact/ | 0.2.9.8 |
> | see https://www.artikel5ev.de/torcontact/ | 0.2.9.8 |
> | see https://www.artikel5ev.de/torcontact/ | 0.2.9.8 |
> | see https://www.artikel5ev.de/torcontact/ | 0.2.9.8 |
> | see https://www.artikel5ev.de/torcontact/ | 0.2.9.8 |
> | see https://www.artikel5ev.de/torcontact/ | 0.2.9.8 |
> | see https://www.artikel5ev.de/torcontact/ | 0.2.9.8 |
> | see https://www.artikel5ev.de/torcontact/ | 0.2.9.8 |
> ...
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[mick]

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:41:53 +0100
kingqueen kingqu...@btnf.tw allegedly wrote:
 
  Had a similar situation. My take is - it is never too late to
  obfuscate. It does matter.
 
 Thank you! I have done. Random Person ROT13 xvatdh...@ogas.gj
 

I think that is the first time I have seen ROT13 used as a form of
email obfuscation.

I have seen images (usually PNG) being used - but then I have also
seen that ruined by the use of the mailto: tag around the image.

Mick 

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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[Jann Horn]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:08:51PM +0600, Roman Mamedov wrote:
 One workaround is to obfuscate the E-Mail you use in your contact details as
 I mentioned, either lightly or not, I have seen some really creative ways
 people obfuscate their E-Mail to avoid spam-crawlers.

Which is a great thing in case the torproject decides to mail the owners of all
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[Kali Tor]

Hi,



 On Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:57 PM, kingqueen kingqu...@btnf.tw wrote:
 
 On 26 June 2014 17:08:51 BST, Roman Mamedov r...@romanrm.net wrote:
 
 And that Tor node list is, in fact, a web page.
 
 Yes, I understand how it happens. I was just asking how much of an 
 inconvenience 
 spam caused by such listings causes, and for any tips for if it is a major 
 inconvenience. 
 
 I'm glad to discover it has proven to not be a major inconvenience for other 
 relay owners.
 
 Thanks for the obfuscation suggestion, but I guess it would be bolting the 
 stable door after the horse has bolted in my case, at most damage limitation, 
 as 
 my email address is now already out there, so to speak. I shall make 
 judicious 
 use of the delete key.

Had a similar situation. My take is - it is never too late to obfuscate. It 
does matter.

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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[Elrippo]

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You have to take care, that your mail provider has appropriate tools to 
recognize Spam like Spamassassin.

On 27. Juni 2014 10:18:52 MESZ, Kali Tor kalito...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,



 On Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:57 PM, kingqueen kingqu...@btnf.tw
wrote:

 On 26 June 2014 17:08:51 BST, Roman Mamedov r...@romanrm.net wrote:

 And that Tor node list is, in fact, a web page.

 Yes, I understand how it happens. I was just asking how much of an
inconvenience
 spam caused by such listings causes, and for any tips for if it is a
major
 inconvenience.

 I'm glad to discover it has proven to not be a major inconvenience
for other
 relay owners.

 Thanks for the obfuscation suggestion, but I guess it would be
bolting the
 stable door after the horse has bolted in my case, at most damage
limitation, as
 my email address is now already out there, so to speak. I shall make
judicious
 use of the delete key.

Had a similar situation. My take is - it is never too late to
obfuscate. It does matter.

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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[kingqueen]

Hello Kali,

 Had a similar situation. My take is - it is never too late to obfuscate. It 
 does matter.

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[tor-relays] Spam

[kingqueen]

hi,

well having run a relay for just under 2 weeks, I've got my first spam
on this email address. As you will no doubt have guessed, this is not
my usual email address, it is only used for the Tor relay contact
details, this email list and a very few other projects that will not
have published my email address anywhere.

So I guess that this spam is as a result of my email address appearing
on Atlas or Globe or similar as a result of it being the contact
address for my Tor relay.

I know this possibility is mentioned in the Tor documentation; I read
it somewhere. I guess there's not much to be done about it; I wouldn't
want to remove contact details - the address is already in the public
domain anyway, and I want to be contactable with any problems. I guess
I just have to use the standard spam filtering and combating measures.

Could those with experience of running a relay for longer, please
advise if this will become a major problem? Will spam increase
substantially? Also, any suggestions very gratefully received.

Thank you!

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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[Roman Mamedov]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:06:44 +0100
kingqueen kingqu...@btnf.tw wrote:

 hi,
 
 well having run a relay for just under 2 weeks, I've got my first spam
 on this email address. As you will no doubt have guessed, this is not
 my usual email address, it is only used for the Tor relay contact
 details, this email list and a very few other projects that will not
 have published my email address anywhere.
 
 So I guess that this spam is as a result of my email address appearing
 on Atlas or Globe or similar as a result of it being the contact
 address for my Tor relay.
 
 I know this possibility is mentioned in the Tor documentation; I read
 it somewhere. I guess there's not much to be done about it; I wouldn't
 want to remove contact details - the address is already in the public
 domain anyway, and I want to be contactable with any problems. I guess
 I just have to use the standard spam filtering and combating measures.
 
 Could those with experience of running a relay for longer, please
 advise if this will become a major problem? Will spam increase
 substantially? Also, any suggestions very gratefully received.

You put your IP on a web page, crawlers can harvest it and use for spam. I've
just tried and easily found your E-Mail using search engines such as Google
and others. If you didn't want it to be harvested for spam purposes, you could
have used at least some minimal obfuscation, e.g. user AT example DOT com.
But instead you just published it there in the clear form. Nothing surprising
or even strictly speaking Tor-related.

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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[Roman Mamedov]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:28:36 +0600
Roman Mamedov r...@romanrm.net wrote:

 You put your IP on a web page

Sorry, meant E-Mail address of course :)

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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[kingqueen]

Hello Roman,

 You put your IP on a web page, crawlers can harvest it and use for spam. I've
 just tried and easily found your E-Mail using search engines such as Google
 and others.

Really? kingqu...@btnf.tw ?
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kingqueen%40btnf.tw#q=%22kingqueen%40btnf.tw%22
lists only a Tor node list.

 But instead you just published it there in the clear form.

in .torrc and thus in node lists, yes.

kingqu...@btnf.tw is only published on webpages in relation to tor. It
is not on any other webpages. That address - the one I am using to
correspond on this list - is the one I am now receiving spam on.

I suggest you double check your facts.


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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[cbr...@hush.com]

I was receiving some spam after a couple weeks so I changed it to
user at domain dot com e.g. cbritt at hush dot com

It seems to have solved the problem. I think I remember reading
somewhere that newer versions automatically reformat email addresses
to combat the aforementioned spam issue.

Hopefully that helps!

On 06/26/2014 at 10:56 AM, kingqueen  wrote:hi,

well having run a relay for just under 2 weeks, I've got my first spam
on this email address. As you will no doubt have guessed, this is not
my usual email address, it is only used for the Tor relay contact
details, this email list and a very few other projects that will not
have published my email address anywhere.

So I guess that this spam is as a result of my email address appearing
on Atlas or Globe or similar as a result of it being the contact
address for my Tor relay.

I know this possibility is mentioned in the Tor documentation; I read
it somewhere. I guess there's not much to be done about it; I wouldn't
want to remove contact details - the address is already in the public
domain anyway, and I want to be contactable with any problems. I guess
I just have to use the standard spam filtering and combating measures.

Could those with experience of running a relay for longer, please
advise if this will become a major problem? Will spam increase
substantially? Also, any suggestions very gratefully received.

Thank you!

KQ
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[kingqueen]

On 26 June 2014 16:51:11 BST, cbr...@hush.com cbr...@hush.com wrote:
I was receiving some spam after a couple weeks so I changed it to
user at domain dot com e.g. cbritt at hush dot com

It seems to have solved the problem. I think I remember reading
somewhere that newer versions automatically reformat email addresses
to combat the aforementioned spam issue.

Hopefully that helps!

It does. Thank you!
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Re: [tor-relays] Spam

[grarpamp]

Spammers subscribe to mailing lists. You post to mailing lists. Have fun.
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