Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China

2013-11-17 Thread I
It sounds like a challenge to get a relay up in China...

Perhaps this talk might inpsire a way of helping Tor into China.

http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_anti_behind_the_great_firewall_of_china.html

Robert


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Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China

2013-11-17 Thread Tony Xue
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 05:20:22 -0500
> From: that guy 
> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China
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> On 11/15/2013 06:20 PM, tor-relays-requ...@lists.torproject.org wrote:
>> I've heard that some ISPs in China provide uncensored network
>> access to foreign companies. But this is hearsay
>
> You are correct but it is not that simple nor widespread.  What I've
> seen most often is execs from big companies getting special
> considerations so while "uncensored" might be a stretch there is some
> truth to the above.  I can find out more any time if anyone needs some
> info please contact me any time as I don't think it will be a big
> topic of discussion here:)  I have seen heavy use of VPN's by western
> students visiting, or studying in Bejing w/out issue.  I'll have very
> current info and can get some near instant feedback in the next day or
> two.
>
> And to the guys saying "avoid the ussa like the plague"  this wanna-be
> expat agrees 100%. Sadly!  And for a whole lot more than just Tor nodes.

But keep in mind that Chinese people like to do things in a tricky
way. They might say not censored network but they didn't say they're
not monitoring it.  The gov has said that they will be strict on
"ideology" in any situation.

I did hear about someone in "a famous Finnish mobile phone company
which will belong to a US operating system making company" said they
can access facebook directly but I haven't got a chance to see whether
they are using an enterprise level VPN or uncensored network.
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China

2013-11-16 Thread I
For protest I agree USA should be avoided but I have had very little trouble 
and great speed on seven exit relays there.

> And to the guys saying "avoid the ussa like the plague"  this wanna-be
> expat agrees 100%. Sadly!  And for a whole lot more than just Tor nodes.
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China

2013-11-16 Thread that guy
On 11/15/2013 06:20 PM, tor-relays-requ...@lists.torproject.org wrote:
> I've heard that some ISPs in China provide uncensored network
> access to foreign companies. But this is hearsay

You are correct but it is not that simple nor widespread.  What I've
seen most often is execs from big companies getting special
considerations so while "uncensored" might be a stretch there is some
truth to the above.  I can find out more any time if anyone needs some
info please contact me any time as I don't think it will be a big
topic of discussion here:)  I have seen heavy use of VPN's by western
students visiting, or studying in Bejing w/out issue.  I'll have very
current info and can get some near instant feedback in the next day or
two.

And to the guys saying "avoid the ussa like the plague"  this wanna-be
expat agrees 100%. Sadly!  And for a whole lot more than just Tor nodes.

-- 
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PGP Fingerprint :
7770 D186 A06E A329 2217
3161 63EB F269 37B8 8644

http://pastebin.com/8W8vyNjb
---
"... Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers
from
the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government
becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter
or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its
foundation on
such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall
seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

>From the United States of America's Declaration of Independence
July 4, 1776
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