Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread tor-admin
On Sunday 26 January 2014 12:48:34 Sebastian Urbach wrote:
 But here the good news. The live scoreboard was modified. There is now a
 new column which shows the number of completed runs per IP and also at the
 bottom a value which displays the total sum of systems who completed at

I am wondering why only 68 out of 283 completed the traceroute. Can someone 
explain please?

regards

torland

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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread renke brausse
 
 I am wondering why only 68 out of 283 completed the traceroute. Can someone 
 explain please?
 
probably because the estimated time is between 4 and 96 days:
https://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong
my (low-bandwith) relay is trace-routing since 4 days and completed a
mere 15 % of all checks :)

Renke



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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread Sebastian Urbach

Hi Renke,

Do you care to elaborate  ? If you need assistance we can talk via private 
mail as well ...


Bandwidth consumption is very low as you possible read on the project site. 
Do you run the test with scamper and or did you turn down the scanning speed ?


The question remains why did many relay ops canceled the test before 
completion. As the scoreboard shows most of them would have completed the 
test in the estimated lowest time frame (around 4 days). The estimated max. 
time is about 24 days not 96 if you choose to run with traceroute and the 
default values instead of scamper.


My best guess is that even 4 days was too long.  After the test was started 
they wondered how long it would take and checked back with the faq, then 
decided to quit. Call it a hunch ;-)


My system, as an example, took about 2 days and 23 hours to complete the 
run. I use scamper with the default settings. You can also turn up the pps 
value and finish even faster.


How long will this take?:

http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong

How much bandwidth, disk space, RAM, and CPU will this consume?:

http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howmanyresources

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I am wondering why only 68 out of 283 completed the traceroute. Can someone 
explain please?

probably because the estimated time is between 4 and 96 days:

https://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong
my (low-bandwith) relay is trace-routing since 4 days and completed a
mere 15 % of all checks :)

Renke




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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread mick
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:04:01 +0100
Sebastian Urbach sebast...@urbach.org allegedly wrote:
 
 My system, as an example, took about 2 days and 23 hours to complete
 the run. I use scamper with the default settings. You can also turn
 up the pps value and finish even faster.
 
 How long will this take?:
 
 http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong
 
 How much bandwidth, disk space, RAM, and CPU will this consume?:
 
 http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howmanyresources
 

Fo info, my relay (512MB RAM, 1 core VPS) finshed the scamper run
(with default settings) in just over 3.5 days. I've just kicked off a
second run.

Mick
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 gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B  72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312
 http://baldric.net

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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread Sebastian Urbach

Hi Mick,

Thank you for running multiple turns and your time frame info as well :-)
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Sebastian Urbach

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:04:01 +0100
Sebastian Urbach sebast...@urbach.org allegedly wrote:

My system, as an example, took about 2 days and 23 hours to complete
the run. I use scamper with the default settings. You can also turn
up the pps value and finish even faster.
How long will this take?:
http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong
How much bandwidth, disk space, RAM, and CPU will this consume?:
http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howmanyresources


Fo info, my relay (512MB RAM, 1 core VPS) finshed the scamper run
(with default settings) in just over 3.5 days. I've just kicked off a
second run.

Mick
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Mick Morgan
gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B  72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312
http://baldric.net

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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread renke brausse
Sebastian,

 Do you care to elaborate  ? If you need assistance we can talk via
 private mail as well ...
I use the script intentionally with scamper restricted to 200 pps - not
sure why (and what) I should elaborate ;)

The needed time (even for the default of scamper with 1000 pps) is imho
a rather good explanation to torland's question why only 68 of nearly
300 participating IPs finished the whole measurement at least once.

Renke



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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread tor-admin
On Sunday 26 January 2014 16:27:12 renke brausse wrote:
 The needed time (even for the default of scamper with 1000 pps) is imho
 a rather good explanation to torland's question why only 68 of nearly
 300 participating IPs finished the whole measurement at least once.
I launched the script from a high capacity tor relay host as well as from a 
VPS. I did not see a big difference in time. On both it finished within around 
4 days. 

I would assume that someone who reads the documents/FAQ about the script, 
checks it and starts it, will not kill it before it finishes. So I am 
wondering if there is another reason for the high number of unfinished script 
cycles.

Regards,

torland
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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread Anupam Das
So I went through the data collected from the relays I

Ips used  #relays
1 88
13 1
149 1
2 2
28 1
3 1
4 1
5 2



On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:53 PM, tor-admin tor-ad...@torland.me wrote:

 On Sunday 26 January 2014 16:27:12 renke brausse wrote:
  The needed time (even for the default of scamper with 1000 pps) is imho
  a rather good explanation to torland's question why only 68 of nearly
  300 participating IPs finished the whole measurement at least once.
 I launched the script from a high capacity tor relay host as well as from a
 VPS. I did not see a big difference in time. On both it finished within
 around
 4 days.

 I would assume that someone who reads the documents/FAQ about the script,
 checks it and starts it, will not kill it before it finishes. So I am
 wondering if there is another reason for the high number of unfinished
 script
 cycles.

 Regards,

 torland
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