Re: [tor-relays] Time information

2014-09-05 Thread Alexander Dietrich

On 2014-09-05 03:43, grarpamp wrote:


I wonder how to get them to notice more consistently?


Simple, either mail their contact (if any) and they fix it, or 
blacklist their
fingerprints. There is no reason any relay should not be able to sync 
time.


Other possibilities:
- extend the Tor Weather service to detect this and send mail
- assign a flag (i.e. BadClock) when the clock is way out of sync

Using the contact info wouldn't work for me personally, since I didn't 
put a machine-readable email address in there.


Best regards,
Alexander
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Re: [tor-relays] Time information

2014-09-05 Thread Marcin Gondek
Hi,

+1 from me for the flag

If the time issues really make a problems in tor network.

Regards,


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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Time information

On 2014-09-05 03:43, grarpamp wrote:

 I wonder how to get them to notice more consistently?
 
 Simple, either mail their contact (if any) and they fix it, or 
 blacklist their fingerprints. There is no reason any relay should not 
 be able to sync time.

Other possibilities:
- extend the Tor Weather service to detect this and send mail
- assign a flag (i.e. BadClock) when the clock is way out of sync

Using the contact info wouldn't work for me personally, since I didn't put a 
machine-readable email address in there.

Best regards,
Alexander
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Re: [tor-relays] Time information

2014-09-04 Thread L. Blissett
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 05:19:13AM +, Marcin Gondek wrote:
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 Hi,
 
 I just wondering, it is a bug?
 
 Regards,


AFAIK, there is no bug. I used to see this message when I was behind a
router with wrong UTC summer/winter time configuration. Now I don't see
them anymore. Are you sure your time zone settings are properly configured?

Regards,


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Re: [tor-relays] Time information

2014-09-04 Thread Marcin Gondek
Hi,

My zone it's correct, when I will have a wrong time the NTP Pool will out me 
from the pool.

http://www.pool.ntp.org/user/drixter

The same machine, where relay is running.

[drixter@fido ~]$ ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
+smtp.certum.pl  .PPS.1 u   61   64  377   14.4432.168   4.001
+tempus1.gum.gov .PPS.1 u   45   64  3776.7041.905   3.127
+tempus2.gum.gov .PPS.1 u   12   64  3677.3762.228   4.053
*ntp.coi.pw.edu. .OCXO.   1 u   40   64  3776.8692.267   1.975
oGPS_NMEA(0) .GPS.0 l5   16  3770.0000.010   0.026
[drixter@fido ~]$ date
Thu Sep  4 21:49:59 CEST 2014
[drixter@fido ~]$

Regards,


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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Time information

On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 05:19:13AM +, Marcin Gondek wrote:
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 Hi,
 
 I just wondering, it is a bug?
 
 Regards,


AFAIK, there is no bug. I used to see this message when I was behind a router 
with wrong UTC summer/winter time configuration. Now I don't see them anymore. 
Are you sure your time zone settings are properly configured?

Regards,
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Re: [tor-relays] Time information

2014-09-04 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 07:19:02PM +, Marcin Gondek wrote:
 Sep 02 21:11:52.000 [info] channel_tls_process_netinfo_cell(): Received 
 NETINFO cell with skewed time from server at x.x.x.x:449.  It seems that our 
 clock is ahead by 1 hours, 19 minutes, or that theirs is behind. Tor requires 
 an accurate clock to work: please check your time and date settings.
 
 Should I worry about it? Logs seems to little strange and looks that
other servers provide it's local time without any timezone.

It isn't a bug, but it is not great that some Tor relays have the
wrong time. But so long as they aren't *too* wrong, it isn't the end of
the world. I just counted them up, and I think there are about 30 relays
with wrong clocks, out of the 6000 or so total. That's pretty good.

I think those relays are probably seeing complaints in their logs,
since while you see those at info-level because they're not directory
authorities, when you notice that a directory authority disagrees with
your clock, it's logged at warn-level severity.

I wonder how to get them to notice more consistently?

--Roger

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Re: [tor-relays] Time information

2014-09-04 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote:
 I wonder how to get them to notice more consistently?

Simple, either mail their contact (if any) and they fix it, or blacklist their
fingerprints. There is no reason any relay should not be able to sync time.
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Re: [tor-relays] Time information

2014-09-02 Thread Sebastian Hahn
Hi,

On 02 Sep 2014, at 21:19, Marcin Gondek drix...@e-utp.net wrote:
 I just looking on the logs and see:
 
 ==cut==
 Sep 02 21:03:54.000 [info] channel_tls_process_netinfo_cell(): Received 
 NETINFO cell with skewed time from server at x.x.x.x:443.  It seems that our 
 clock is behind by 1 hours, 24 minutes, or that theirs is ahead. Tor requires 
 an accurate clock to work: please check your time and date settings.

 Should I worry about it? Logs seems to little strange and looks that other 
 servers provide it's local time without any timezone.

These are info-level logs. You should not worry about them unless you're
trying to chase an issue you've observed otherwise.

Cheers
Sebastian


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Re: [tor-relays] Time information

2014-09-02 Thread Marcin Gondek
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Hi,

I just wondering, it is a bug?

Regards,


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Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Time information

Hi,

On 02 Sep 2014, at 21:19, Marcin Gondek drix...@e-utp.net wrote:
 I just looking on the logs and see:

 ==cut==
 Sep 02 21:03:54.000 [info] channel_tls_process_netinfo_cell(): Received 
 NETINFO cell with skewed time from server at x.x.x.x:443.  It seems that our 
 clock is behind by 1 hours, 24 minutes, or that theirs is ahead. Tor requires 
 an accurate clock to work: please check your time and date settings.

 Should I worry about it? Logs seems to little strange and looks that other 
 servers provide it's local time without any timezone.

These are info-level logs. You should not worry about them unless you're trying 
to chase an issue you've observed otherwise.

Cheers
Sebastian

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