Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
I've run several middle relays for over a year but they keep getting knocked down due to circuit creation storms (on RPIs) or powercuts or updates or some other issue. Yes uptime is important, but 100% is not practical for most relay operators. Also, if you want a shirt so badly, donate to Tor! In fact, I just realised I do want a shirt! Tom On 30 December 2013 11:48, Random Tor Node Operator t...@unterderbruecke.dewrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/28/2013 01:26 AM, I wrote: I think two months is a bit short to be rewarded with a t-shirt from donated resources. It makes more sense to extend the time but include the total time running ignoring minor disruptions. I agree with that point, because currently, relay operators have the incentive to not update to the latest Tor version whenever a new version is released, in order to keep the consecutive uptime high. That is probably not in the best interest of Tor. Maybe Tor Weather could look at the flags instead of the consecutive uptime instead. For example, you typically don't lose your Guard or Stable flag due to a reboot. Robert : i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email : -Uptime is nearly 100%, Tor weather needs some updating, however it continues to email plenty of relay operators. The reason you didn't get an email is tor weather didn't see your relay matching the uptime requirement, GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSwV11AAoJEJe61A/xrcOQbPUP/RtgN4CQSJeUC8ZPt1/r0ryU rc8ssBWHcmZBj513UaIes2HcmL72RMUXaaRtzDxrZR3F0gd7eRLWfBYXZw3M4XF+ 6SFVkesG2Mb5L41rRyqwHlIw/Cj9y9ilH6loQfAWDTaQJVtd9JQ8UQuVzIqTcAfd /ZNJnC4lZGzmH+Iih0nS0hTb+NG9jEN/32pMFc4eh7fHDg4/A6TVKftHeAcjnnv1 eIeY8kOELT3U8Dd2OV0j8tpWbvC/Rz5KYnLA2EMQLdifhSMCtbXv0a3fr58Ph8JS BfFKNFd+YvQNRUSPvkiUrCdjr8btPKYsNb9OPaNjUVkum6K1m8U/+z1OssdiGIxM IDMKmxNpQ6xlmaaWh+KegVtvV/azo51PbMlj2f/8PmqAxeJokFBaHx5V07InaA62 OKtpcLhb3zrJNmLdjp2GQ5tuRJwnXc+B2ulCO1OtjWq3Snl04quMr6GL2IPbnUMB UO8b3uN5tZp9IrO2rDTjlPLYNMLWhlgvaCKNpMDL83s1CzBJIzq2980fdd8KpSlY ThTe2DfLM3uXgbHu77ff1NXLK9UCTQZ9jMhk7UUg9pPYpjeYIZwuB9F7fZN4lr/h cdnFTJlo7P9n2MESfxzAshNg0fzSz3daTj524NnFvkl9W/ew+YqEocPkf/7Wn9xi 2M2t1wC0QeFzdhMkXGqq =IPcb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
I agree there should be another way. I just recently had to start overhttps://atlas.torproject.org/#details/9748228B9BC40C154F74AA9EDFDF698B902C986Fbecause I updated Tor. I don't plan on updating again until two months have passed. Jason On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Thomas Hand th6...@gmail.com wrote: I've run several middle relays for over a year but they keep getting knocked down due to circuit creation storms (on RPIs) or powercuts or updates or some other issue. Yes uptime is important, but 100% is not practical for most relay operators. Also, if you want a shirt so badly, donate to Tor! In fact, I just realised I do want a shirt! Tom On 30 December 2013 11:48, Random Tor Node Operator t...@unterderbruecke.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/28/2013 01:26 AM, I wrote: I think two months is a bit short to be rewarded with a t-shirt from donated resources. It makes more sense to extend the time but include the total time running ignoring minor disruptions. I agree with that point, because currently, relay operators have the incentive to not update to the latest Tor version whenever a new version is released, in order to keep the consecutive uptime high. That is probably not in the best interest of Tor. Maybe Tor Weather could look at the flags instead of the consecutive uptime instead. For example, you typically don't lose your Guard or Stable flag due to a reboot. Robert : i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email : -Uptime is nearly 100%, Tor weather needs some updating, however it continues to email plenty of relay operators. The reason you didn't get an email is tor weather didn't see your relay matching the uptime requirement, GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSwV11AAoJEJe61A/xrcOQbPUP/RtgN4CQSJeUC8ZPt1/r0ryU rc8ssBWHcmZBj513UaIes2HcmL72RMUXaaRtzDxrZR3F0gd7eRLWfBYXZw3M4XF+ 6SFVkesG2Mb5L41rRyqwHlIw/Cj9y9ilH6loQfAWDTaQJVtd9JQ8UQuVzIqTcAfd /ZNJnC4lZGzmH+Iih0nS0hTb+NG9jEN/32pMFc4eh7fHDg4/A6TVKftHeAcjnnv1 eIeY8kOELT3U8Dd2OV0j8tpWbvC/Rz5KYnLA2EMQLdifhSMCtbXv0a3fr58Ph8JS BfFKNFd+YvQNRUSPvkiUrCdjr8btPKYsNb9OPaNjUVkum6K1m8U/+z1OssdiGIxM IDMKmxNpQ6xlmaaWh+KegVtvV/azo51PbMlj2f/8PmqAxeJokFBaHx5V07InaA62 OKtpcLhb3zrJNmLdjp2GQ5tuRJwnXc+B2ulCO1OtjWq3Snl04quMr6GL2IPbnUMB UO8b3uN5tZp9IrO2rDTjlPLYNMLWhlgvaCKNpMDL83s1CzBJIzq2980fdd8KpSlY ThTe2DfLM3uXgbHu77ff1NXLK9UCTQZ9jMhk7UUg9pPYpjeYIZwuB9F7fZN4lr/h cdnFTJlo7P9n2MESfxzAshNg0fzSz3daTj524NnFvkl9W/ew+YqEocPkf/7Wn9xi 2M2t1wC0QeFzdhMkXGqq =IPcb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
I donated to Tor a few times because I couldn't use Linux, a VPS, or get past the port problems from home. Donations of cash are far better than using volunteers to send a partly profitable t-shirt.After the threshold of my first relay (an exit on a Windows VPS) Tor weather promised a t-shirt which seemed a fair trade. Learning and restarting after daily stoppages of the VPS took much time. The t-shirt was to be symbolic of commitment to Tor ideals in a small way. Donations of time and VPS hire to expand the network are better than cash donations to Tor, I feel.Now after numerous relays and exits, copyright threats and pleadings, and many hours and $ a t-shirt or mug would mean the commitment to the ideals was recognised.Tor Weather hasn't registered it but it should have to ensure encouragement to broaden the network.[IMO] The t-shirt or whatever should be a good design such as Jacob wore at 30c3 rather than the the current one.Robert -Original Message-From: th6...@gmail.comSent: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:14:04 +To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.orgSubject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. ProblemI've run several middle relays for over a year but they keep getting knocked down due to circuit creation storms (on RPIs) or powercuts or updates or some other issue. Yes uptime is important, but 100% is not practical for most relay operators. Also, if you want a shirt so badly, donate to Tor! In fact, I just realised I do want a shirt! TomOn 30 December 2013 11:48, Random Tor Node Operator t...@unterderbruecke.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/28/2013 01:26 AM, I wrote: I think two months is a bit short to be rewarded with a t-shirt from donated resources. It makes more sense to extend the time but include the total time running ignoring minor disruptions. I agree with that point, because currently, relay operators have the incentive to not update to the latest Tor version whenever a new version is released, in order to keep the consecutive uptime high. That is probably not in the best interest of Tor. Maybe Tor Weather could look at the flags instead of the consecutive uptime instead. For example, you typically don't lose your Guard or Stable flag due to a reboot. Robert : i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email : -Uptime is nearly 100%, Tor weather needs some updating, however it continues to email plenty of relay operators. The reason you didn't get an email is tor weather didn't see your relay matching the uptime requirement, GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSwV11AAoJEJe61A/xrcOQbPUP/RtgN4CQSJeUC8ZPt1/r0ryU rc8ssBWHcmZBj513UaIes2HcmL72RMUXaaRtzDxrZR3F0gd7eRLWfBYXZw3M4XF+ 6SFVkesG2Mb5L41rRyqwHlIw/Cj9y9ilH6loQfAWDTaQJVtd9JQ8UQuVzIqTcAfd /ZNJnC4lZGzmH+Iih0nS0hTb+NG9jEN/32pMFc4eh7fHDg4/A6TVKftHeAcjnnv1 eIeY8kOELT3U8Dd2OV0j8tpWbvC/Rz5KYnLA2EMQLdifhSMCtbXv0a3fr58Ph8JS BfFKNFd+YvQNRUSPvkiUrCdjr8btPKYsNb9OPaNjUVkum6K1m8U/+z1OssdiGIxM IDMKmxNpQ6xlmaaWh+KegVtvV/azo51PbMlj2f/8PmqAxeJokFBaHx5V07InaA62 OKtpcLhb3zrJNmLdjp2GQ5tuRJwnXc+B2ulCO1OtjWq3Snl04quMr6GL2IPbnUMB UO8b3uN5tZp9IrO2rDTjlPLYNMLWhlgvaCKNpMDL83s1CzBJIzq2980fdd8KpSlY ThTe2DfLM3uXgbHu77ff1NXLK9UCTQZ9jMhk7UUg9pPYpjeYIZwuB9F7fZN4lr/h cdnFTJlo7P9n2MESfxzAshNg0fzSz3daTj524NnFvkl9W/ew+YqEocPkf/7Wn9xi 2M2t1wC0QeFzdhMkXGqq =IPcb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays Free Online Photosharing - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 01:23:59PM +0100, equal-rig...@gmx.de wrote 0.9K bytes in 0 lines about: : i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email : -Uptime is nearly 100%, Tor weather needs some updating, however it continues to email plenty of relay operators. The reason you didn't get an email is tor weather didn't see your relay matching the uptime requirement, https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/858C6B4E7841661F3B6FE65392B79F4DB5B2EE15 There are a stack of tickets if you want to hack on some python, https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/report/36 -- Andrew http://tpo.is/contact pgp 0x6B4D6475 ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
I think two months is a bit short to be rewarded with a t-shirt from donated resources. It makes more sense to extend the time but include the total time running ignoring minor disruptions. Robert : i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email : -Uptime is nearly 100%, Tor weather needs some updating, however it continues to email plenty of relay operators. The reason you didn't get an email is tor weather didn't see your relay matching the uptime requirement, GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
I agree. 6 months minimum. On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:26 PM, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote: I think two months is a bit short to be rewarded with a t-shirt from donated resources. It makes more sense to extend the time but include the total time running ignoring minor disruptions. Robert : i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email : -Uptime is nearly 100%, Tor weather needs some updating, however it continues to email plenty of relay operators. The reason you didn't get an email is tor weather didn't see your relay matching the uptime requirement, GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
I had a similar issue, I dropped them an email and they got the t shirt sent out. Thanks for running a relay and happy holidays! On 25 Dec 2013 12:26, equal-rights.de equal-rig...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email that I qualified for a T-shirt. This never happend. Requirments for getting one: https://www.torproject.org/ getinvolved/tshirt.html I think I do fullfill the requirements: -non-exit realy since September 2013 -average bandwith: 32 Mbit/s -10TB of traffic each month -Uptime is nearly 100%, expect of two times when I updated the tor software and about 2hours of maintenance. (total about 2hours) My relay: http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP= 858c6b4e7841661f3b6fe65392b79f4db5b2ee15 I also found this ticket relating this topic. Tor-weather bug: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/2461 Thanks for your time. Best Regards Michael ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
Same thing for me. I have asked the donation guys by writing a short mail to donati...@torproject.org and they replied with the link to the shirt supplier. FB On 12/25/2013 01:23 PM, equal-rights.de wrote: Hi, i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email that I qualified for a T-shirt. This never happend. Requirments for getting one: https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/tshirt.html I think I do fullfill the requirements: -non-exit realy since September 2013 -average bandwith: 32 Mbit/s -10TB of traffic each month -Uptime is nearly 100%, expect of two times when I updated the tor software and about 2hours of maintenance. (total about 2hours) My relay: http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=858c6b4e7841661f3b6fe65392b79f4db5b2ee15 I also found this ticket relating this topic. Tor-weather bug: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/2461 Thanks for your time. Best Regards Michael ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
Thanks for your quick answers. Am 25.12.2013 13:59, schrieb Felix Büdenhölzer: Same thing for me. I have asked the donation guys by writing a short mail to donati...@torproject.org and they replied with the link to the shirt supplier. FB On 12/25/2013 01:23 PM, equal-rights.de wrote: Hi, i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email that I qualified for a T-shirt. This never happend. Requirments for getting one: https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/tshirt.html I think I do fullfill the requirements: -non-exit realy since September 2013 -average bandwith: 32 Mbit/s -10TB of traffic each month -Uptime is nearly 100%, expect of two times when I updated the tor software and about 2hours of maintenance. (total about 2hours) My relay: http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=858c6b4e7841661f3b6fe65392b79f4db5b2ee15 I also found this ticket relating this topic. Tor-weather bug: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/2461 Thanks for your time. Best Regards Michael ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email that I qualified for a T-shirt. This never happend. Me too. Two years ago. I wait yet... :-) Gabor ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
Tor Weather is looking at the uptime. When you stop Tor while updating you reset the counter. 2013/12/25 Kiss Gabor (Bitman) ki...@ssg.ki.iif.hu: i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email that I qualified for a T-shirt. This never happend. Me too. Two years ago. I wait yet... :-) Gabor ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
Tor Weather is looking at the uptime. When you stop Tor while updating you reset the counter. Really? I repeat: I got notification that I am entitled to a T shirt. Did I miss something AFTER that? But never mind. Till I wear my NSA shirt... :-) g ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
I was refering to Uptime is nearly 100%, expect of two times when I updated the tor software and about 2hours of maintenance I see... Next time please quote the replied mail, not an other. Gabor -- A mug of beer, please. Shaken, not stirred. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
I was refering to Uptime is nearly 100%, expect of two times when I updated the tor software and about 2hours of maintenance 2013/12/25 Kiss Gabor (Bitman) ki...@ssg.ki.iif.hu: Tor Weather is looking at the uptime. When you stop Tor while updating you reset the counter. Really? I repeat: I got notification that I am entitled to a T shirt. Did I miss something AFTER that? But never mind. Till I wear my NSA shirt... :-) g ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem
On 12/25/2013 05:47 PM, Kiss Gabor (Bitman) wrote: Tor Weather is looking at the uptime. When you stop Tor while updating you reset the counter. Really? I repeat: I got notification that I am entitled to a T shirt. Did I miss something AFTER that? Did you then email donations@tpo? This is a separate, manual process. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/ ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
