Re: [tor-relays] Windows Relay Setup
Tor 0.2.4.23 is EOLed and is blacklisted from the network. Vidalia is also EOL and unmaintained. Also see: https://blog.torproject.org/removing-end-life-relays-network If you want a Windows relay, you'll have to configure manually whether you like it or not. It's hard (Tor is Unix-native), and performance sucks when compared to Linux/BSD/macOS, but on the positive Windows is still better for relay diversity than Linux. If there is Linux malware hurting the Tor network, we shouldn't just hope for BSD variants to keep us alive. Closed source or not, we should also consider Windows as an alternative relay OS (if you have a license or are willing to buy one). And I'm saying this as someone who runs FreeBSD relays and a FreeBSD desktop myself. You can also use a VM, and it may be easier, but if I were you, just use the expert bundle and try to configure Tor as a NT service. You won't have to worry about a hypervisor and will help relay diversity along the way. -Neel === https://www.neelc.org/ On 2019-10-17 15:20, William Pate wrote: I finally got around to playing with this some more. Thank you for your message, Bruce. I searched for Vidalia and found an old bundle that appears to work perfectly on my Windows 10 machine. Steps I took: 1. Download Vidalia Bundle 0.2.4.23 from http://vidalia-bundle.en.lo4d.com/ 2. Extract 3. Install 4. Start 5. The Vidalia Control Panel will pop-up 6. In settings, I changed the Tor executable from the one included with the Vidalia Bundle to the current version of Tor elsewhere on my system. Like I said, it *appears* to be working. Can't find it in relay search yet, but I only set it up moments ago. Nickname is inadequate Contact is willp...@disroot.org William Pate willp...@pm.me 512-947-3311 inadequate.net ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:44 AM, Barton Bruce wrote: William, On 7/11/2019 6:58 PM, William Pate wrote: > I'm interested in hosting a Windows-based relay, if anyone can point me to a good tutorial. I've tried the most common ones. > > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays There used to be a VIDALIA (sp?) kit that could simply be downloaded and run on a windows machine. I then worked for an ISP/CLEC and had lots of bandwidth so ran Vidaalia on a 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate machine on my desk at work. I never did hear why something had changed at the tor project so that stopped working, but do remember a rude snippy condescending reply from someone on the mailing list so I lost interest. I did get the head Tor guy from the Central Square Cambridge office of TOR to come speak at a local networking group's monthly meeting we held at a MicroSlush faclity in Burlington, MA and it was well received by a packed audience. I think he now has left TOR and works for some ISP. This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Windows Relay Setup
I finally got around to playing with this some more. Thank you for your message, Bruce. I searched for Vidalia and found an old bundle that appears to work perfectly on my Windows 10 machine. Steps I took: 1. Download Vidalia Bundle 0.2.4.23 from http://vidalia-bundle.en.lo4d.com/ 2. Extract 3. Install 4. Start 5. The Vidalia Control Panel will pop-up 6. In settings, I changed the Tor executable from the one included with the Vidalia Bundle to the current version of Tor elsewhere on my system. Like I said, it *appears* to be working. Can't find it in relay search yet, but I only set it up moments ago. Nickname is inadequate Contact is willp...@disroot.org William Pate willp...@pm.me 512-947-3311 inadequate.net ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:44 AM, Barton Bruce wrote: > > > William, > > On 7/11/2019 6:58 PM, William Pate wrote: > > > I'm interested in hosting a Windows-based relay, if anyone can point me to > > a good tutorial. I've tried the most common ones. > > > > tor-relays mailing list > > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > There used to be a VIDALIA (sp?) kit that could simply be downloaded and > run on a windows machine. I then worked for an ISP/CLEC and had lots of > bandwidth so ran Vidaalia on a 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate machine on my > desk at work. > > I never did hear why something had changed at the tor project so that > stopped working, but do remember a rude snippy condescending reply from > someone on the mailing list so I lost interest. > > I did get the head Tor guy from the Central Square Cambridge office of > TOR to come speak at a local networking group's monthly meeting we held > at a MicroSlush faclity in Burlington, MA and it was well received by a > packed audience. I think he now has left TOR and works for some ISP. > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Windows Relay Setup
Hi William, From an operating system diversity point of view it’s definitely a good idea to have all sorts of OSs running relays, so it’s great that you’re trying this out on Windows. It would be really good if you can help us with a new set of instructions for Windows once you get it to work. Thanks for running a relay! Pili — Project Manager: Tor Browser, UX and Community teams pili at torproject dot org gpg 3E7F A89E 2459 B6CC A62F 56B8 C6CB 772E F096 9C45 > On 24 Jul 2019, at 09:40, TorGate wrote: > > Its realy simple, learn linux and start with a small relay (nonexit). You can > try a debian 10 or Ubuntu. Windoze is not a god solution. Sorry. > >> Am 23.07.2019 um 22:43 schrieb Dave Warren : >> >> One other possibility if you can't work through any issues, Windows 10 has >> fairly decent Linux support, and/or consider running a lightweight Linux in >> a Hyper-V VM (Windows 10 Pro, most flavours of Windows Server). >> >> Neither of these are as clean as running natively in Windows, but when a >> project doesn't actively maintain a particular platform it is sometimes an >> overall better result. >> >> >>> On 2019-07-14 17:33, William Pate wrote: >>> Hi! >>> Well, I certainly expected far more snarky responses. :) >>> Thank you for the links. I'll check them out and, if I get it to work, >>> maybe write up a guide for others. >>> Thank you! >>> William >>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:44 AM, Barton Bruce wrote: William, > On 7/11/2019 6:58 PM, William Pate wrote: > > I'm interested in hosting a Windows-based relay, if anyone can point me > to a good tutorial. I've tried the most common ones. > > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays There used to be a VIDALIA (sp?) kit that could simply be downloaded and run on a windows machine. I then worked for an ISP/CLEC and had lots of bandwidth so ran Vidaalia on a 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate machine on my desk at work. I never did hear why something had changed at the tor project so that stopped working, but do remember a rude snippy condescending reply from someone on the mailing list so I lost interest. I did get the head Tor guy from the Central Square Cambridge office of TOR to come speak at a local networking group's monthly meeting we held at a MicroSlush faclity in Burlington, MA and it was well received by a packed audience. I think he now has left TOR and works for some ISP. This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> ___ >>> tor-relays mailing list >>> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >> >> ___ >> tor-relays mailing list >> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Windows Relay Setup
Its realy simple, learn linux and start with a small relay (nonexit). You can try a debian 10 or Ubuntu. Windoze is not a god solution. Sorry. > Am 23.07.2019 um 22:43 schrieb Dave Warren : > > One other possibility if you can't work through any issues, Windows 10 has > fairly decent Linux support, and/or consider running a lightweight Linux in a > Hyper-V VM (Windows 10 Pro, most flavours of Windows Server). > > Neither of these are as clean as running natively in Windows, but when a > project doesn't actively maintain a particular platform it is sometimes an > overall better result. > > >> On 2019-07-14 17:33, William Pate wrote: >> Hi! >> Well, I certainly expected far more snarky responses. :) >> Thank you for the links. I'll check them out and, if I get it to work, maybe >> write up a guide for others. >> Thank you! >> William >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >>> On Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:44 AM, Barton Bruce >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> William, >>> On 7/11/2019 6:58 PM, William Pate wrote: I'm interested in hosting a Windows-based relay, if anyone can point me to a good tutorial. I've tried the most common ones. tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >>> >>> There used to be a VIDALIA (sp?) kit that could simply be downloaded and >>> run on a windows machine. I then worked for an ISP/CLEC and had lots of >>> bandwidth so ran Vidaalia on a 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate machine on my >>> desk at work. >>> >>> I never did hear why something had changed at the tor project so that >>> stopped working, but do remember a rude snippy condescending reply from >>> someone on the mailing list so I lost interest. >>> >>> I did get the head Tor guy from the Central Square Cambridge office of >>> TOR to come speak at a local networking group's monthly meeting we held >>> at a MicroSlush faclity in Burlington, MA and it was well received by a >>> packed audience. I think he now has left TOR and works for some ISP. >>> >>> >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> ___ >> tor-relays mailing list >> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Windows Relay Setup
One other possibility if you can't work through any issues, Windows 10 has fairly decent Linux support, and/or consider running a lightweight Linux in a Hyper-V VM (Windows 10 Pro, most flavours of Windows Server). Neither of these are as clean as running natively in Windows, but when a project doesn't actively maintain a particular platform it is sometimes an overall better result. On 2019-07-14 17:33, William Pate wrote: Hi! Well, I certainly expected far more snarky responses. :) Thank you for the links. I'll check them out and, if I get it to work, maybe write up a guide for others. Thank you! William ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:44 AM, Barton Bruce wrote: William, On 7/11/2019 6:58 PM, William Pate wrote: I'm interested in hosting a Windows-based relay, if anyone can point me to a good tutorial. I've tried the most common ones. tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays There used to be a VIDALIA (sp?) kit that could simply be downloaded and run on a windows machine. I then worked for an ISP/CLEC and had lots of bandwidth so ran Vidaalia on a 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate machine on my desk at work. I never did hear why something had changed at the tor project so that stopped working, but do remember a rude snippy condescending reply from someone on the mailing list so I lost interest. I did get the head Tor guy from the Central Square Cambridge office of TOR to come speak at a local networking group's monthly meeting we held at a MicroSlush faclity in Burlington, MA and it was well received by a packed audience. I think he now has left TOR and works for some ISP. This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Windows Relay Setup
Hi! Well, I certainly expected far more snarky responses. :) Thank you for the links. I'll check them out and, if I get it to work, maybe write up a guide for others. Thank you! William ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:44 AM, Barton Bruce wrote: > > > William, > > On 7/11/2019 6:58 PM, William Pate wrote: > > > I'm interested in hosting a Windows-based relay, if anyone can point me to > > a good tutorial. I've tried the most common ones. > > > > tor-relays mailing list > > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > There used to be a VIDALIA (sp?) kit that could simply be downloaded and > run on a windows machine. I then worked for an ISP/CLEC and had lots of > bandwidth so ran Vidaalia on a 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate machine on my > desk at work. > > I never did hear why something had changed at the tor project so that > stopped working, but do remember a rude snippy condescending reply from > someone on the mailing list so I lost interest. > > I did get the head Tor guy from the Central Square Cambridge office of > TOR to come speak at a local networking group's monthly meeting we held > at a MicroSlush faclity in Burlington, MA and it was well received by a > packed audience. I think he now has left TOR and works for some ISP. > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Windows Relay Setup
On 7/13/19 18:43, teor wrote: > Hi, > > On July 11, 2019 10:58:07 PM UTC, William Pate wrote: >> I'm interested in hosting a Windows-based relay, if anyone can point me >> to a good tutorial. I've tried the most common ones. > > That's a good question. > > The Tor Relay Guide mainly covers Linux and BSD. > > None of the core tor developers run Windows relays, so our Windows support is > not great. > > But we have had some enthusiastic Windows relay operators submit patches. > Maybe they are around and can help? > > You could also try using the Tor Relay Guide platform-independent > instructions, after installing the Windows Tor Expert bundle? > > T > > > -- > teor > -- I wrote this a while ago. I didn't (and don't) use windows, so keep that in mind. https://tor.stackexchange.com/a/16443 Hope this helps, but it probably won't. Matt ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Windows Relay Setup
Hi, On July 11, 2019 10:58:07 PM UTC, William Pate wrote: >I'm interested in hosting a Windows-based relay, if anyone can point me >to a good tutorial. I've tried the most common ones. That's a good question. The Tor Relay Guide mainly covers Linux and BSD. None of the core tor developers run Windows relays, so our Windows support is not great. But we have had some enthusiastic Windows relay operators submit patches. Maybe they are around and can help? You could also try using the Tor Relay Guide platform-independent instructions, after installing the Windows Tor Expert bundle? T -- teor -- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
