[tor-talk] Why the US Government funds circumvention projects (Like Tor)

2011-03-29 Thread Christopher A. Lindsey
Hi,

I light of the recent discussions regarding governments funding projects
like Tor, I thought this article might be of interest.

From the article:
From:   Chris Lindsey 
To: clind...@garudallc.com
Subject:article
Date:   Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:23:10 -0700



U.S. develops "panic button" for democracy activists

(Reuters) - Some day soon, when pro-democracy campaigners have their
cellphones confiscated by police, they'll be able to hit the "panic
button"
-- a special app that will both wipe out the phone's address book and
emit
emergency alerts to other activists.

The panic button is one of the new technologies the U.S. State
Department is
promoting to equip pro-democracy activists in countries ranging from the
Middle East to China with the tools to fight back against repressive
governments.

"We've been trying to keep below the radar on this, because a lot of the
people we are working with are operating in very sensitive
environments,"
said Michael Posner, assistant U.S. secretary of state for human rights
and
labor.

Full article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/25/us-rights-usa-technology-idUSTRE7206DH20110325


Take care,
Chris


-- 
Christopher A. Lindsey 
Garuda, LLC



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Re: [tor-talk] GSOC Ideas.

2011-03-29 Thread grarpamp
> Since it looks like TorStatus is moving to Metrics

Sure, torproject should run one as a central looking glass.
As well as anyone else who wants to.

> become a more lightweight script that can be run on
> one's own Tor server(s) to provide information on just
> them rather than all servers.

That's fine, but the ability to process them all still needs to exist.
Also, I could really use a full CSV version with at minimum,
fp, country, ip, hostname, bandwidth provisioned, uptime, flags.
Selecting those columns does not make it through to the CSV export,
and parsing html is a pain. Nor does it allow not showing the (useless)
router name.
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Re: [tor-talk] Why the US Government funds circumvention projects (Like Tor)

2011-03-29 Thread Geoff Down
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:32 -0700, "Christopher A. Lindsey"
 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I light of the recent discussions regarding governments funding projects
> like Tor, I thought this article might be of interest.
> 
> From the article:
> From:   Chris Lindsey 
> To: clind...@garudallc.com
> Subject:article
> Date:   Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:23:10 -0700
> 
> 
> 
> U.S. develops "panic button" for democracy activists
> 
> (Reuters) - Some day soon, when pro-democracy campaigners have their
> cellphones confiscated by police, they'll be able to hit the "panic
> button"
> -- a special app that will both wipe out the phone's address book and
> emit
> emergency alerts to other activists.
> 
> The panic button is one of the new technologies the U.S. State
> Department is
> promoting to equip pro-democracy activists in countries ranging from the
> Middle East to China with the tools to fight back against repressive
> governments.
> 
> "We've been trying to keep below the radar on this, because a lot of the
> people we are working with are operating in very sensitive
> environments,"
> said Michael Posner, assistant U.S. secretary of state for human rights
> and
> labor.
> 
> Full article:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/25/us-rights-usa-technology-idUSTRE7206DH20110325
> 
> 
> Take care,
> Chris
> 
> 
> -- 
> Christopher A. Lindsey 
> Garuda, LLC

Now at
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2527265620110325

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Re: [tor-talk] Why the US Government funds circumvention projects (Like Tor)

2011-03-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk

 wrote:

Hi,

I light of the recent discussions regarding governments funding projects
like Tor, I thought this article might be of interest.


U.S. develops "panic button" for democracy activists


Full article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/25/us-rights-usa-technology-idUSTRE7206DH20110325


Now at
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2527265620110325

That's great.  At the same time many govts allow mobile providers to 
track users, even by longitude / latitude.  
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/NY-Times-Realizes-Wireless-Carriers-Track-You-113416

If mobile providers have the technology or are allowed to, so can govts.

I sleep better at night just knowing (any) govt has its (& other 
countries') citizens' best interests at heart.  (little sarcasm).  A 
govt's word is as good as gold - they've never lied (from beginning of 
recorded history), have they?


I am a little concerned though, about the US violating the constitution 
in numerous ways to spy on citizens in numerous ways.  (remember the 
congressional hearings on telephone & internet?)  If you want to know 
what (any) govt's up to, have to go elsewhere & dig deep for news & 
insight, not depend on info from the govt(s), nightly news or 
newspapers.  Don't ask the fox guarding the hen house how things are.  
Something is only a conspiracy theory when no facts, evidence (or 
sometimes even common sense about it) exist.

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Re: [tor-talk] GSOC Ideas.

2011-03-29 Thread Ian Foster
>> become a more lightweight script that can be run on
>> one's own Tor server(s) to provide information on just
>> them rather than all servers.
>
> That's fine, but the ability to process them all still needs to exist.
> Also, I could really use a full CSV version with at minimum,
> fp, country, ip, hostname, bandwidth provisioned, uptime, flags.
> Selecting those columns does not make it through to the CSV export,
> and parsing html is a pain. Nor does it allow not showing the (useless)
> router name.

Exporting to CSV based of of the filters is an easy task. Is there
anyone else who would find this useful? If so I'll look into making a
PHP script that can do that right now. :)

-- 
Ian Foster
www.vorsk.com
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Re: [tor-talk] GSOC Ideas.

2011-03-29 Thread Karsten Loesing
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 09:25:02PM -0700, Ian Foster wrote:
> >> become a more lightweight script that can be run on
> >> one's own Tor server(s) to provide information on just
> >> them rather than all servers.
> >
> > That's fine, but the ability to process them all still needs to exist.
> > Also, I could really use a full CSV version with at minimum,
> > fp, country, ip, hostname, bandwidth provisioned, uptime, flags.
> > Selecting those columns does not make it through to the CSV export,
> > and parsing html is a pain. Nor does it allow not showing the (useless)
> > router name.
> 
> Exporting to CSV based of of the filters is an easy task. Is there
> anyone else who would find this useful? If so I'll look into making a
> PHP script that can do that right now. :)

The odds of Tor picking a GSoC student to improve TorStatus are non-zero,
but low.  (To be precise, I wouldn't mentor that project, but I don't know
if somebody else would.)

The better approach for providing Tor network status information is to
extend the metrics website, mostly because the metrics website is
maintained whereas the TorStatus website isn't.  Kevin Berry, one of our
last year's GSoC students who I mentored, started working on a basic
network status page here:

  https://metrics.torproject.org/networkstatus.html

The code for the metrics website is here, and yes, it's JSP/servlets:

  http://gitweb.torproject.org/metrics-web.git

Please let me know if you have further questions.

Best,
Karsten

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