Re: [tor-talk] Why the US Government funds circumvention projects (Like Tor)

2011-04-02 Thread zzretro999






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From: Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com
To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 6:52 am
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Why the US Government funds circumvention projects 
(Like Tor)


clind...@garudallc.com wrote: 
 Hi, 
 
 I light of the recent discussions regarding governments funding projects 
 like Tor, I thought this article might be of interest. 
 
 
 U.S. develops panic button for democracy activists 
 
 
 Full article: 
 http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/25/us-rights-usa-technology-idUSTRE7206DH20110325
  
 
 Now at 
 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2527265620110325 
 
That's great. At the same time many govts allow mobile providers to track 
users, even by longitude / latitude. 
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/NY-Times-Realizes-Wireless-Carriers-Track-You-113416
 
If mobile providers have the technology or are allowed to, so can govts. 
 
I sleep better at night just knowing (any) govt has its ( other countries') 
citizens' best interests at heart. (little sarcasm). A govt's word is as good 
as gold - they've never lied (from beginning of recorded history), have they? 
 
I am a little concerned though, about the US violating the constitution in 
numerous ways to spy on citizens in numerous ways. (remember the congressional 
hearings on telephone  internet?) If you want to know what (any) govt's up to, 
have to go elsewhere  dig deep for news  insight, not depend on info from the 
govt(s), nightly news or newspapers. Don't ask the fox guarding the hen house 
how things are. Something is only a conspiracy theory when no facts, evidence 
(or sometimes even common sense about it) exist. 



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don't know if anyone remembers about, oh, I don't know, about 1-3? years ago 
the U.S. government and U.S. military admitted that the U.S. military had been 
used to spy domestically on U.S. citizens. That, is specifically prohibited by 
Federal law, law the Feds break. They, your government, should never be 
trusted, ever.


It is time to disband the gangs of the government and all American institutions 
that are broke (they can't be fixed), that don't solve problems (none of them 
do) and stop using the same ole, broken, impractical and unusable tools we have 
or have been given or allowed to use, that to this very day, have not, do not 
and will not fix the problems WE, the people have.

Yet that is the box most willingly stay in, think in, believe in and speak in.

If it doesn't solve the problems we need solved, then it is irrelevant to our 
lives and needs to be discarded with something that works, in its place. That 
is usually, people: us/US
Things are always left to us/US to take care of and WE do, so take a look 
around you and be honest to yourself.

Sorry for the rant but that's all there seems to be. No action being taken in 
other words, or are 'ya gonna vote! That doesn't work and hasn't for a long 
time.

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Re: [tor-talk] GSOC Ideas.

2011-04-02 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 02.04.2011 05:27, Robert Ransom wrote:
 Moritz Bartl, your script was very useful, I used it s a base, but
 modified it a bit so that it would run on python 3.
 No shit.  Your substantive contribution to TorExport consists of less
 than 10 new lines near the end -- diff attached.

So? Someone looking for a .csv output with no coding experience is
grateful for any change that helps.

Think user, not coder. That is a general advice to #tor ;-)

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Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-02 Thread Matthew



On 02/04/11 14:04, James Brown wrote:

I run Icedove 3.5.16 on Debian Squeeze (under a transparently-torified
linux user), Tor v0.2.1.30, TB 1.2.5.

When I try to log into my gmail accounts I have the next message:

  We've detected a problem with your cookie settings.

Enable cookies
Make sure your cookies are enabled. To enable cookies, follow these 
browser-specific instructions.

Clear cache and cookies
If you have cookies enabled but are still having trouble, clear your browser's 
cache and cookies.

Adjust your privacy settings
If clearing your cache and cookies doesn't resolve the problem, try adjusting 
your browser's privacy settings. If your settings are on high, manually add 
www.google.com to your list of allowed sites. Learn more


I have enabled cookies, because it I try to clear my browser's cache and
cookies but I have the same result.
The next, I go to the page Changing privacy settings and I read the
bellow:

  you have your browser's privacy settings set to 'High' you may be unable to 
access Google Accounts. To resolve this problem, please add www.google.com to 
your browser's list of allowed sites.

To add allowed sites in Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE):

1. Go to the Tools menu and select Internet Options.
2. Click the Privacy tab.
3. Click the Sites... button and type www.google.com in the 'Address of Web 
site' section.
4. Click Allow.
5. Click OK.

To add allowed sites in Mozilla Firefox:

1. Go to the Tools menu and select Options.
2. Click the Privacy tab.
3. Click Exceptions and type www.google.com in the 'Address of web site' 
section.
4. Click Allow.
5. Click OK.

If you're accessing Google Accounts from behind a firewall, proxy, or 
anti-virus program, temporarily disable the program and try signing in to 
Google Accounts. If disabling the program resolves the issue you're 
experiencing, then most likely the software is causing the problem.

We suggest consulting the program's online support center to find out why it 
might be interfering with your ability to access your Google Account.

Note: if you're using a work computer, the problem may be related to your 
computer's corporate security settings. We suggest checking with your system 
administrator.
The pasted message below is from 13 February 2011 and should solve the 
cookie problem:


I am wondering if you are using Torbutton and, if so, whether you are using 
1.3.2pre-alpha3?


With extensions.torbutton.xfer_google_cookies as true and with the xpi 
downloaded (see below) I no longer received the error you have quoted.


---

Can you please try the .xpi from this bug:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/2377#comment:3  and let
me know if it behaves ok for Google logins now? It may need a few
tries, iirc, this bug is random.

Be sure to go back in toabout:config  and reset
extensions.torbutton.xfer_google_cookies back to*true*  before running
your tests.


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Re: [tor-talk] Duda pregunta por favor

2011-04-02 Thread Jordi Espasa Clofent

El 2011-04-01 17.35, Pablo Velo de Swaan escribió:

oigan tengo entendido que la última version del tor button es la 1.2.5.
pero no es compatible con mozila firefox 4. Bueno, esperemos 1 añito a
que estos pendejos de vidalia saquen una versión más actualizada que sea
compatible ...


Esta es una lista de habla inglesa.
This is an english mail list.

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Re: [tor-talk] Duda pregunta por favor

2011-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Schechinger
Wo Kan Bu dao!


 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 19:24:26 +0200
 Von: Jordi Espasa Clofent jespa...@minibofh.org
 An: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
 Betreff: Re: [tor-talk] Duda pregunta por favor

 El 2011-04-01 17.35, Pablo Velo de Swaan escribió:
  oigan tengo entendido que la última version del tor button es la 1.2.5.
  pero no es compatible con mozila firefox 4. Bueno, esperemos 1 añito a
  que estos pendejos de vidalia saquen una versión más actualizada que
 sea
  compatible ...
 
 Esta es una lista de habla inglesa.
 This is an english mail list.
 
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Re: [tor-talk] Duda pregunta por favor

2011-04-02 Thread Kragen Javier Sitaker
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 09:35:00AM -0600, Pablo Velo de Swaan wrote:
 oigan tengo entendido que la última version del tor button es la
 1.2.5. pero no es compatible con mozila firefox 4. Bueno, esperemos 1
 añito a que estos pendejos de vidalia saquen una versión más
 actualizada que sea compatible ...

Translation:

Listen, I guess the latest version of TorButton is 1.2.5. But it's not
compatible with MOzilla Firefox 4. Well, do we wait a year for those
Vidalia motherfuckers to release a more up-to-date version that's
compatible

Translation of subject:

Question, please

I note that the only question I can find in the text seems to be
rhetorical.

Should future Spanish-speakers run their text through Google Translate
before posting it (with the Spanish version appended, perhaps, to clear
up ambiguities and translation errors)?  Or should we just exclude them
from participating in the list?

Kragen
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Re: [tor-talk] Duda pregunta por favor

2011-04-02 Thread katmagic
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 13:49:15 -0400
Kragen Javier Sitaker kra...@canonical.org wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 09:35:00AM -0600, Pablo Velo de Swaan wrote:
  oigan tengo entendido que la última version del tor button es la
  1.2.5. pero no es compatible con mozila firefox 4. Bueno, esperemos 1
  añito a que estos pendejos de vidalia saquen una versión más
  actualizada que sea compatible ...
 
 Translation:
 
 Listen, I guess the latest version of TorButton is 1.2.5. But it's not
 compatible with MOzilla Firefox 4. Well, do we wait a year for those
 Vidalia motherfuckers to release a more up-to-date version that's
 compatible
 
 Translation of subject:
 
 Question, please
 
 I note that the only question I can find in the text seems to be
 rhetorical.
 
 Should future Spanish-speakers run their text through Google Translate
 before posting it (with the Spanish version appended, perhaps, to clear
 up ambiguities and translation errors)?  Or should we just exclude them
 from participating in the list?
 
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It seems perfectly reasonable to me to allow Spanish messages on the list; I'm
sure there are quite a few people here who speak Spanish. That said, this
particular message was nothing more than an irrelevant flame, which, I thought,
was better left untranslated.

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Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-02 Thread James Brown
On 02.04.2011 17:11, Matthew wrote:
 

 
 I am wondering if you are using Torbutton and, if so, whether you are
 using 1.3.2pre-alpha3?
 
 With extensions.torbutton.xfer_google_cookies as true and with the xpi
 downloaded (see below) I no longer received the error you have quoted.
 
 ---
 
 Can you please try the .xpi from this bug:
 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/2377#comment:3  and let
 me know if it behaves ok for Google logins now? It may need a few
 tries, iirc, this bug is random.
 torbutton-1.3.2pre-alpha3.xpi
 Be sure to go back in toabout:config  and reset
 extensions.torbutton.xfer_google_cookies back to*true*  before running
 your tests.
 
 
 
 
 
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Hi, Matthew,

Very thanks, I'll try it in the nearest time.
But I cannot find the file of digital sign of this file (such as
torbutton-1.3.2pre-alpha3.xpi.asc):
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/2377/torbutton-1.3.2pre-alpha3.xpi
Where can I get it?
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Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk

On 4/2/2011 2:33 PM, katmagic wrote:

Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to
use a GMail account over Tor. This is unrelated to Torbutton's cookie handling
(which was broken but has since been fixed). Personally, I got a friend on IRC
to let me use his phone for it.
1st I've heard they REQUIRE a phone # to use Gmail over Tor.  Anyone 
else aware this is the only way?
I'd bet, from the Google message about unusual activity, it was 
because the exit node wasn't in the  same country I used when created acct.


Can you expand a little of Torbutton's cookie handling being fixed?  
Again, I'm using TB 1.3.2a.

What are the criteria for TB to allow a site to set cookies?
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