Re: [tor-talk] Tor VPN Server selfmade
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorVPN The VM isn't rewriting your resolv.conf. It's either dhcpd or some other network configuration wizard on the host. Find it and use it's capabilities, or shut it down and do manual. Try to use simpler network addressing instead of random IP's and masks all over the place. 192.168.0.0/24 - vm1 192.168.1.0/24 - vm2 192.168.2.0/24 - host 192.168.3.0/24 - wan, whatever, etc If vm1 can ping any configured address other than its own and its vpn termination address, something is broken. At times the language is off, see about working with a local English speaker that you know. Make a sketch with IP's and VM's. I didn't check any further things. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] Tor problem in tehran
Hi. I have problem to connect with Tor 2.2.35-3 with IRAN telecomunication Co. ADSL service. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Open links in TBB
Which user do you use to run firefox 2nd time? I suppose you shouldn`t run Tor and Firefox of TBB as different users. Also if you check you may find that "New identity" option of TorButton is not available. The Tuber wrote: > Here's the workaround that I'm using (on Linux): > > o Start TBB. Once Vidalia is ready, TBB-Firefox starts. Once TBB-Firefox > is running, you can look at the command-line arguments; it's "-no-remote > -profile ./Data/profile" The -no-remote causes me problems. > > o Exit TBB-Firefox; vidalia stays running. > > o Start TBB-Firefox with the command: > "~/tor-browser_en-US/App/Firefox/firefox -profile > ~/tor-browser_en-US/Data/profile &" > > o From the program that contains the link that you want to click, set > the browser to be "~/tor-browser_en-US/App/Firefox/firefox". The program > will then open a link with the command > "~/tor-browser_en-US/App/Firefox/firefox ". > > Note that there will be problems if you try to run the regular version > of Firefox. I think that one needs to be started with the -no-remote > flag. The -no-remote was added to TBB sometime in August IIRC so that > the regular version of Firefox could run along side of TBB-Firefox. > > Anyone know if what I'm doing is a security risk? > > -- > Thanks. > > george > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- Greg ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited
I found a thread in the archive (November 2011), but I could not find a satisfying answer to the questions 1. Why is Google the default search engine in the TOR browser bundle? 2. Does TOR get money from Google a) for using Google as the default search engine? b) in general? If this is the wrong place to ask about it, please guide me to the right one. Background: Google gathers every bit of information possible. Google reads your (unencrypted) email. Google actively works pro censorship if it is required for business. Even if you might consider the use of Google search "safe" with some precautions (I don't), you endorse their actions as a company in general by promoting them as the default search engine. People using the TOR browser bundle trust the TOR project. If you agree to Google as default, many people will too. There are search engines out there that respect your privacy. Examples are DuckDuckGo and ixquick, I suppose there are more. Please take a stand and consider kicking Google out of the TOR browser bundle. Use default search engines that respect privacy. Thanks. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited
On 1/10/2012 10:26 AM, 5...@gmx.de wrote: I found a thread in the archive (November 2011), but I could not find a satisfying answer to the questions 1. Why is Google the default search engine in the TOR browser bundle? 2. Does TOR get money from Google a) for using Google as the default search engine? b) in general? Re: Get $. Probably. Just like a lot of other free software get funding from installing search engines or toolbars. But no one has to use Google search or even keep their search engine plugin installed (in TBB, Firefox, etc.). Just install & use the other "privacy respectful" search engines. "Non-Profit" orgs have to get funds from somewhere. Some don't like Mozilla's business deals w/ Google - others don't care or even know there IS a relationship. A lot of people don't like Google, in general, because of their past privacy invasions (some of which they still do, per Privacy Policy). Many obviously don't care. Bottom line: in any business, if people don't like a certain company or product & want other competing companies to succeed, that conduct their business in ways that's more palatable to the customer, then customers must support / use those other, often smaller companies. Else, there won't be much competition to choose from. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:26:38 +0100, "5...@gmx.de" <5...@gmx.de> wrote: > People using the TOR browser bundle trust the TOR project. If you > agree to Google as default, many people will too. There are search > engines out there that respect your privacy. Examples are DuckDuckGo > and ixquick, I suppose there are more. Please take a stand and > consider kicking Google out of the TOR browser bundle. Use default > search engines that respect privacy. DuckDuckGo in particular runs Tor exit enclave[1] and hidden service[2]. It also behaves much more nicely than google when scripting is disabled, though I expect that is true of other engines as well. [1] http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216622 [2] http://www.gabrielweinberg.com/blog/2010/08/duckduckgo-now-operates-a-tor-exit-enclave.html --frozencemetery pgpjPIXqteHTX.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Open links in TBB
>I suppose you shouldn`t run Tor and Firefox of TBB as different users. Why not? On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Greg Kalitnikoff wrote: > Which user do you use to run firefox 2nd time? > > I suppose you shouldn`t run Tor and Firefox of TBB as different users. > Also if you check you may find that "New identity" option of TorButton > is not available. > > The Tuber wrote: > >> Here's the workaround that I'm using (on Linux): >> >> o Start TBB. Once Vidalia is ready, TBB-Firefox starts. Once TBB-Firefox >> is running, you can look at the command-line arguments; it's "-no-remote >> -profile ./Data/profile" The -no-remote causes me problems. >> >> o Exit TBB-Firefox; vidalia stays running. >> >> o Start TBB-Firefox with the command: >> "~/tor-browser_en-US/App/Firefox/firefox -profile >> ~/tor-browser_en-US/Data/profile &" >> >> o From the program that contains the link that you want to click, set >> the browser to be "~/tor-browser_en-US/App/Firefox/firefox". The program >> will then open a link with the command >> "~/tor-browser_en-US/App/Firefox/firefox ". >> >> Note that there will be problems if you try to run the regular version >> of Firefox. I think that one needs to be started with the -no-remote >> flag. The -no-remote was added to TBB sometime in August IIRC so that >> the regular version of Firefox could run along side of TBB-Firefox. >> >> Anyone know if what I'm doing is a security risk? >> >> -- >> Thanks. >> >> george >> ___ >> tor-talk mailing list >> tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > -- > Greg > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited
On Jan 10, 2012, at 5:26 PM, 5...@gmx.de wrote: > I found a thread in the archive (November 2011), but I could not > find a satisfying answer to the questions > > 1. Why is Google the default search engine in the TOR browser bundle? Because it's the default search engine in Firefox > 2. Does TOR get money from Google > a) for using Google as the default search engine? No. > b) in general? Google sponsors the Google Summer of Code, and gives 500$ per student to the mentoring organizations, and also pays some amount of money for mentors to travel to the summit (only to cover transportation expenses). Tor has participated in the program in the past, and probably will again if accepted. In the past, I believe the work on Thandy was (partially?) sponsored by Google, but that there's no current contract. Andrew might be able to tell you more. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited
>From: Joe Btfsplk >To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:12 PM >Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited > > > >On 1/10/2012 10:26 AM, 5...@gmx.de wrote: >> I found a thread in the archive (November 2011), but I could not >> find a satisfying answer to the questions >> >> 1. Why is Google the default search engine in the TOR browser bundle? >> >> 2. Does TOR get money from Google >> a) for using Google as the default search engine? >> b) in general? >Re: Get $. Probably. Just like a lot of other free software get funding >from installing search engines or toolbars. But no one has to use Google >search or even keep their search engine plugin installed (in TBB, Firefox, >etc.). Just install & use the other "privacy respectful" search engines. >"Non-Profit" orgs have to get funds from somewhere. Some don't like Mozilla's >business deals w/ Google - others don't care or even know there IS a >relationship. A lot of people don't like Google, in general, because of their >past privacy invasions (some of which they still do, per Privacy Policy). >Many obviously don't care. > >Bottom line: in any business, if people don't like a certain company or >product & want other competing companies to succeed, that conduct their >business in ways that's more palatable to the customer, then customers must >support / use those other, often smaller companies. Else, there won't be much >competition to choose from. Insinuating that Tor is adware and that the Tor Project is being compensated for delivering user data is outrageous. There's been a recent increase in FUD (because of the SOPA vote?), but this is pretty over the top. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Open links in TBB
> >I suppose you shouldn`t run Tor and Firefox of TBB as different users. > > Why not? > Because this will break interaction between vidalia+tor and firefox. Which will cause the unavailability of "New identity" option of TorButton as I have said before. But still, it`s just my opinion, I`m guided by my personal consideration: "If developers did things that way, it should be there, they now better". -- Greg ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Open links in TBB
It depends on what you need. I don't need Vidalia and it's features but I want TOR running as a local installed version because I like my firewall script like it is. Sam On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Greg Kalitnikoff wrote: >> >I suppose you shouldn`t run Tor and Firefox of TBB as different users. >> >> Why not? >> > > Because this will break interaction between vidalia+tor and firefox. > Which will cause the unavailability of "New identity" option of > TorButton as I have said before. But still, it`s just my opinion, > I`m guided by my personal consideration: "If developers did things that > way, it should be there, they now better". > > -- > Greg > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Tor VPN Server selfmade
Thank you for checking! >> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorVPN > > The VM isn't rewriting your resolv.conf. It's either dhcpd or > some other network configuration wizard on the host. Find it > and use it's capabilities, or shut it down and do manual. You were right. The minimal Ubuntu Server install hasn't done this. > Try to use simpler network addressing instead of random > IP's and masks all over the place. > 192.168.0.0/24 - vm1 > 192.168.1.0/24 - vm2 > 192.168.2.0/24 - host > 192.168.3.0/24 - wan, whatever, etc That looks simpler. Unfortunately it's not that easy. Not all IP ranges may be used in VMware. Only IPs listed under Virtual Network Editor, DHCP do work, others are not routable. Might be possible to change this but I thought not to change VMware is the least of the worse. > If vm1 can ping any configured address other than its own and its > vpn termination address, something is broken. Yes, this is fortunately not the case. > At times the language is off, see about working with a local English > speaker that you know. I am sorry for that. I was hoping for some collaboration, community work. > Make a sketch with IP's and VM's. Good idea. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited
- Original Message - From: 5...@gmx.de Sent: 01/10/12 11:26 PM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited I found a thread in the archive (November 2011), but I could not find a satisfying answer to the questions 1. Why is Google the default search engine in the TOR browser bundle? 2. Does TOR get money from Google a) for using Google as the default search engine? b) in general? If this is the wrong place to ask about it, please guide me to the right one. Background: Google gathers every bit of information possible. Google reads your (unencrypted) email. Google actively works pro censorship if it is required for business. Even if you might consider the use of Google search "safe" with some precautions (I don't), you endorse their actions as a company in general by promoting them as the default search engine. People using the TOR browser bundle trust the TOR project. If you agree to Google as default, many people will too. There are search engines out there that respect your privacy. Examples are DuckDuckGo and ixquick, I suppose there are more. Please take a stand and consider k icking Google out of the TOR browser bundle. Use default search engines that respect privacy. Thanks. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk i AGREE. gOOGLE CAN nO LonGER stand for integrity (meaning CompLETELY trustWORTHy), as it may have once BEEn when it first began. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] FIRE!fox
- Original Message - From: Andrew Lewman Sent: 01/09/12 08:16 PM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] FIRE!fox On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:09:39 -0500 "Achter Lieber" wrote: > Hello. > I am at OS X 10.5.8 on Mac and cannot upgrade to Snow, Lion or > beyond. Also cannot afford a new computer. > What is the best and safest version of Firefox to use with Tor, if > someone doesn't mind supplying an answer for me. Use the tor browser bundle, it works fine on 10.5.8. -- Andrew http://tpo.is/contact pgp 0x74ED336B ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk tANK-YEW WERY MUSH. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited
- Original Message - From: Joe Btfsplk Sent: 01/11/12 01:12 AM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited On 1/10/2012 10:26 AM, 5...@gmx.de wrote: > I found a thread in the archive (November 2011), but I could not > find a satisfying answer to the questions > > 1. Why is Google the default search engine in the TOR browser bundle? > > 2. Does TOR get money from Google > a) for using Google as the default search engine? > b) in general? Re: Get $. Probably. Just like a lot of other free software get funding from installing search engines or toolbars. But no one has to use Google search or even keep their search engine plugin installed (in TBB, Firefox, etc.). Just install & use the other "privacy respectful" search engines. "Non-Profit" orgs have to get funds from somewhere. Some don't like Mozilla's business deals w/ Google - others don't care or even know there IS a relationship. A lot of people don't like Google, in general, because of their past privacy invasions (some of which they still do, per Privacy Policy). Many obviously don't care. Bottom line: in any business, if peo ple don't like a certain company or product & want other competing companies to succeed, that conduct their business in ways that's more palatable to the customer, then customers must support / use those other, often smaller companies. Else, there won't be much competition to choose from. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk tHE COMPETITION SHOULD BE ABOUT trust AND NOT necesSARILY THE REALITY THAT poeple will do things THEY ORDINarILY WOULDN'T, BECAUSE OF MONEY. bECAUSE OF TRUST, OR lacK THEREOF, THEY DON'T GET MY MONEY, MY TRUST OR MY PATRONAGE. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
