Re: [tor-talk] Disabled Torbirdy itself Leaks DNS

2013-03-21 Thread Bry8 Star
It seems new Torbirdy 0.1.1 has just solved this specific problem.
:) great work,
THANKS.

Note:
* s/those options remains same/those options which mentioned above
remains same/
* s/all remain same/all that were mentioned above remain same/



Received from Bry8 Star, on 2013-03-15 3:15 AM:
> Hi,
> when i setup socks5 proxy (without torbirdy plugin) in Thunderbird,
> then these config options are set:
> 
> network.proxy.socks="127.0.0.1"
> network.proxy.socks_port="9050"
> network.proxy.type="1"
> network.proxy.socks_version="5"
> network.proxy.socks_remote_dns=true
> 
> and i also manually set few other config params/options, that are
> related to make this specific thunderbird anonymous friendly.
> 
> with those thunderbird works fine.
> 
> And, after installing Torbirdy plugin, those options remains same.
> 
> But when i disabled Torbirdy, then:
> except for below config option, all remain same:
> network.proxy.socks_remote_dns=false
> 
> And because of this, Thunderbird starts to use local DNS resolver on
> user's local computer, instead of using remote dns via Socks5 proxy !
> 
> Thus, a disabled Torbirdy itself is cause of DNS leaks.
> 
> Luckily i have firewall in place, which previously pre-set to
> not-allow any traffic from Thunderbird toward any where else, only
> connection allowed for Thunderbird, is toward the ip address
> 127.0.0.1 on port 9050. (And on windows boxes, i needed to allow
> local(127.0.0.1) loop connection for Thunderbird itself).
> 
> And firewall is also configured to WARN me if Thunderbird (or any
> Torified app) tries to use anything other than what was mentioned in
> above paragraph. So i was able to view these DNS leak attempts.
> 
> So when Torbirdy plugin is disabled, then it should not change that
> config option to "false", it should keep it to "true" if user
> previously was using socks5 proxy by specifying it manually.
> 
> Torbirdy should be able to use a file or technique, which will allow
> it to remember what params/options & values were used before, so
> when disabled it should revert back only those specific settings
> which it changed, not to what it thinks it should be.
> 
> So pls create bug-report or please take steps to solve such problem(s).
> 
> Thank you,
> -- Bright Star.
> 
> 
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[tor-talk] VOIP over Tor

2013-03-21 Thread Van Gegel



I found that this is a very old idea:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2006-May/thread.html#13379
But why for 6 years no one is interested?

I continue my experiments with VOIP over Tor and tried another old
abandoned software SpeakFreely by changing it's protocol as RTP over TCP.
It has found practical use and looks good:
http://sourceforge.net/p/advtor/discussion/programs/thread/9d735faa

Now I have an idea of using two or three hidden services on different
ports instead of one. Caller simultaneously connects to them and
duplicate packets to each channel. The first delivered package is used,
other are discarded. Also collects statistics and every few minutes the
slowest connection will closed and reestablished. This should reduce the
average latency.

There are questions:
- Will Tors of caller and calee use the same or new nodes for building
circuit after the close and immediate reestablish of connection with HS?
- How will this affect the safety of connection against possible
deanonymizing attacks?

>
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[tor-talk] Tor Volunteer Research Help

2013-03-21 Thread Venkatarama Subrahmanyan Watrap Raman

Hi,

I am a master's student in comp science at UIC (Univ. of Illinois at 
Chicago) planning to do a thesis on comp networks with/without anonymity 
online. I came across the volunteer research topics page 
(https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/volunteer.html.en#Research). The 
topics that interest me are a,b, f, g, i, j and l.


I have about an year of school left within which I need to complete 
this. I need some direction here as to where to start? Is it a good idea 
to go ahead with those ideas for a thesis, given the time I have? Are 
there others working on the same? And if I do plan to do it, what are 
the tools required and papers to read?


Thanks,
Venkat
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Re: [tor-talk] VOIP over Tor

2013-03-21 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:08:39 +0200
"Van Gegel"  wrote:

> I found that this is a very old idea:
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2006-May/thread.html#13379
> But why for 6 years no one is interested?

Because most VOIP is UDP, and Tor doesn't support UDP. See
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-January/027183.html
for current progress.

Skype, Mumble, others work over TCP and therefore Tor just fine.

-- 
Andrew
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Re: [tor-talk] VOIP over Tor

2013-03-21 Thread greg
I'm working on integrating tor to a pbx server, right now it has SIP
with SRTP offers Camellia-256 TLS with AES-128 crypto. 

-Greg 
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 13:39 -0400, Andrew Lewman wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:08:39 +0200
> "Van Gegel"  wrote:
> 
> > I found that this is a very old idea:
> > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2006-May/thread.html#13379
> > But why for 6 years no one is interested?
> 
> Because most VOIP is UDP, and Tor doesn't support UDP. See
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-January/027183.html
> for current progress.
> 
> Skype, Mumble, others work over TCP and therefore Tor just fine.
> 


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Re: [tor-talk] VOIP over Tor

2013-03-21 Thread adrelanos
Van Gegel:
> 
> 
> 
> I found that this is a very old idea:
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2006-May/thread.html#13379
> But why for 6 years no one is interested?
> 
> I continue my experiments with VOIP over Tor and tried another old
> abandoned software SpeakFreely by changing it's protocol as RTP over TCP.
> It has found practical use and looks good:
> http://sourceforge.net/p/advtor/discussion/programs/thread/9d735faa
> 
> Now I have an idea of using two or three hidden services on different
> ports instead of one. Caller simultaneously connects to them and
> duplicate packets to each channel. The first delivered package is used,
> other are discarded. Also collects statistics and every few minutes the
> slowest connection will closed and reestablished. This should reduce the
> average latency.
> 
> There are questions:
> - Will Tors of caller and calee use the same or new nodes for building
> circuit after the close and immediate reestablish of connection with HS?
> - How will this affect the safety of connection against possible
> deanonymizing attacks?

By the way, why do you have to communicate from hidden service to hidden
service? Wouldn't it suffice if the callee would act as server and the
caller as client?

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Re: [tor-talk] OONI specific mailing list?

2013-03-21 Thread Aaron
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
 wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm curious to know if there is a specific mailing list for OONI discussions? 
> I haven't found any mentioned on the OONI site, nor on the 
> lists.torproject.org site. If not, where is the best place to hang out for 
> OONI related info?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> Bernard

Hi Bernard,
There are now two freshly-created lists: ooni-dev and ooni-talk

You can subscribe here:

https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ooni-dev
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ooni-talk

--Aaron
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Re: [tor-talk] VOIP over Tor

2013-03-21 Thread grarpamp
> Because most VOIP is UDP, and Tor doesn't support UDP.

Users may find OnionCat useful for IPv6 transport over Tor
until Tor offers that natively. Enable your own authentication
with that to defeat spoofing where needed.
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Re: [tor-talk] VOIP over Tor

2013-03-21 Thread Maimun Rizal
Hi,
I have researched VoIP over TOR, I use openVPN to communicate voip client with 
tor network. 
I test with default tor - 3 nodes and modify tor with 2 nodes. 
With 3 TOR nodes, from 100 call, only 21 call which have acceptable quality 
call, whereas with 2 tor nodes, i got 36 acceptable quality call.

We should concern with recomendation for real time voice communication. ITU G 
114 recomendation, maximum latency should be less than 400 ms. Others 
recommendation are jitter (less than 30 ms) and packet loss ( less than 5 %).

I did test only for nodes in european.

Regards,
MR




On 21.03.2013, at 19:09, greg  wrote:

> I'm working on integrating tor to a pbx server, right now it has SIP
> with SRTP offers Camellia-256 TLS with AES-128 crypto. 
> 
> -Greg 
> On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 13:39 -0400, Andrew Lewman wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:08:39 +0200
>> "Van Gegel"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I found that this is a very old idea:
>>> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2006-May/thread.html#13379
>>> But why for 6 years no one is interested?
>> 
>> Because most VOIP is UDP, and Tor doesn't support UDP. See
>> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-January/027183.html
>> for current progress.
>> 
>> Skype, Mumble, others work over TCP and therefore Tor just fine.
> 
> 
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