Re: [tor-talk] IMAPS login errors

2014-02-10 Thread arnst
Philipp Winter:
 On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 11:11:16PM +, ar...@runbox.no wrote:
 I'm using IMAPS over Tor for email purposes.  Sporadically I get
 'password incorrect' errors which usually go away when I click 'Retry'.
  Is this some kind of MitM attack?
 
 Real MitM attacks typically don't cause password incorrect error messages.

Yes, I thought not, but it's strange behavior nonetheless as it never
happens except over Tor with my provider, and it is always transient
(one, maybe two failed auths, then things work - it makes me suspicious).

 Incidentally, there are two exit relays whose IMAPS traffic is modified by
 security software:
 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/E5A75EE11A35F9DAF74B13BBA9D3CF0AA8F3AD2D
 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B40A3DC61FD7C18B8FFFA62FFA98CA7AAF8D8107
 
 The former uses a Fortinet device whereas the latter uses an antivirus 
 scanner.

Is this not sufficient to get BadExit flag?

Arnst
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Re: [tor-talk] IMAPS login errors

2014-02-10 Thread arnst
Gerardus Hendricks:
 On 2/9/14 12:11 AM, ar...@runbox.no wrote:
 I'm using IMAPS over Tor for email purposes.  Sporadically I get
 'password incorrect' errors which usually go away when I click 'Retry'.
   Is this some kind of MitM attack?
 
 That's not enough information to judge.
 
 Assuming the attacker doesn't have a valid certificate, Thunderbird
 would give you a certificate warning upon connection, not after sending
 any password.

That's what I was hoping! But after Flame and the novel MD5 break... one
can't be too paranoid I guess?

 It could as well be the legitimate IMAP server, plainly failing to
 authenticate you.

The strange thing is this only happens over Tor with my mail provider,
and it's not a timeout.  That's why I thought it was funny...

Arnst
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[tor-talk] IMAPS login errors

2014-02-08 Thread arnst
Hello,

I'm using IMAPS over Tor for email purposes.  Sporadically I get
'password incorrect' errors which usually go away when I click 'Retry'.
 Is this some kind of MitM attack?

Arnst
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