[tor-talk] 'cached-descriptors' replaced with 'cached-microdescs'

2012-12-12 Thread basmati kasaar
I noticed TBB-2.3.25-1 is using 'cached-microdescs' which removes the
end-user's ability to choose exitnodes based on each server's exit
policy.

example of informations in obsolete 'cached-descriptors':

router name and IP address
platform
uptime
bandwidth

reject *:25
reject *:119
reject *:135-139
reject *:445
reject *:563
reject *:1214
reject *:4661-4666
reject *:6346-6429
reject *:6699
reject *:6881-6999
accept *:*

Is this informations still available somewhere else? Maybe a torproject.org URL?
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Re: [tor-talk] 'cached-descriptors' replaced with 'cached-microdescs'

2012-12-12 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 12/12/12 3:23 PM, basmati kasaar wrote:
> I noticed TBB-2.3.25-1 is using 'cached-microdescs' which removes the
> end-user's ability to choose exitnodes based on each server's exit
> policy.
> 
> example of informations in obsolete 'cached-descriptors':
> 
> router name and IP address
> platform
> uptime
> bandwidth
> 
> reject *:25
> reject *:119
> reject *:135-139
> reject *:445
> reject *:563
> reject *:1214
> reject *:4661-4666
> reject *:6346-6429
> reject *:6699
> reject *:6881-6999
> accept *:*
> 
> Is this informations still available somewhere else? Maybe a torproject.org 
> URL?

Yes, see https://atlas.torproject.org/

Best,
Karsten

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Re: [tor-talk] 'cached-descriptors' replaced with 'cached-microdescs'

2012-12-12 Thread basmati kasaar

>- Original Message -
>From: Karsten Loesing 
>To: basmati kasaar 
>Cc: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
>Sent: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:22:43 +0530 (IST)
>Subject: Re: [tor-talk] 'cached-descriptors' replaced with 'cached-microdescs'
>
>
>
>Yes, see https://atlas.torproject.org/
>
>Best,
>Karsten


'atlas.torproject.org' appears to contain very, very little useful
informations and no informations on specific exit port availability
per router.

Would it be so difficult to make available on torproject.org like was
on serifos 6 yrs ago?

http://web.archive.org/web/20060718235801/http://serifos.eecs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/exit.pl

Thank you.


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Re: [tor-talk] 'cached-descriptors' replaced with 'cached-microdescs'

2012-12-12 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 12/12/12 7:09 PM, basmati kasaar wrote:
> 'atlas.torproject.org' appears to contain very, very little useful
> informations and no informations on specific exit port availability
> per router.

Actually, it does have full exit policies of all relays.  Try typing a
relay nickname or fingerprint in the search field and select the relay
from the results table that you're interested in.

Best,
Karsten

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Re: [tor-talk] 'cached-descriptors' replaced with 'cached-microdescs'

2012-12-12 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:23 PM, basmati kasaar  wrote:
> Is this informations still available somewhere else? Maybe a torproject.org 
> URL?

UseMicrodescriptors 0?

-- 
Maxim Kammerer
Liberté Linux: http://dee.su/liberte
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Re: [tor-talk] 'cached-descriptors' replaced with 'cached-microdescs'

2012-12-12 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:39:38 +0530 (IST)
basmati kasaar  wrote:

> 'atlas.torproject.org' appears to contain very, very little useful
> informations and no informations on specific exit port availability
> per router.

The full exit policy is on atlas, here's a current exit relay:

https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/4E377F91D326552AAE818D5A17BC3EF79639C2CD

In general, the current tbb package upgraded tor from 2.2 to 2.3. This
is a major new version in the tor world. What you're seeing in current
tbb with tor 2.3 is that microdescriptors are now live and stable.
These were implemented to reduce tor's bandwidth usage. The
specification and motivation are here,
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/blob/HEAD:/proposals/158-microdescriptors.txt

> Would it be so difficult to make available on torproject.org like was
> on serifos 6 yrs ago?
> 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20060718235801/http://serifos.eecs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/exit.pl

Yes. It's a bad idea. If someone wants to run that script themselves,
great. You'll also notice someone at harvard.edu ran it, not us.

Creating single points of failure on which the world of tor users
relies is bad for everyone all around. We already have this problem
with check.torproject.org. We're working to replace
check.torproject.org with a safe, local solution.

-- 
Andrew
http://tpo.is/contact
pgp 0x6B4D6475
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Re: [tor-talk] 'cached-descriptors' replaced with 'cached-microdescs'

2012-12-12 Thread Damian Johnson
If you use the cached-consensus then why not just set
'FetchUselessDescriptors 1' in your torrc?
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