Re: [tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-04-23 Thread mirimir
On 03/27/2013 05:03 AM, SiNA Rabbani wrote:

> Yes its very much possible. You would have the client connect via socks
> proxy over Tor to .onion VPN server.

It works very well, I find. Connections are long-term (days, anyway)
stable. Also, Mumble connects in UDP mode, and voice quality is
excellent. Server-client latency is generally 1-2 seconds.

Thank you all for your help on this.

> On Mar 26, 2013 9:11 PM, "mirimir"  wrote:
> 
>> OpenVPN clients connect with servers via Tor in TCP mode.
>>
>> But can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?
>>
>> I searched quite a bit, but didn't find anything. That's surprising,
>> because (in retrospect) the idea seems so obvious.
>>
>> What am I missing?
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Re: [tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-04-02 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
On Wednesday 27 March 2013 17:20:10 grarpamp wrote:
> >> https://www.cypherpunk.at/onioncat/
> > 
> > Using OnionCat, would I be establishing a private point-to-point
> > connection to the remote IPv6 address? Or would I be connecting to a
> > common multi-point VPN, through which I could reach the remote IPv6
> > address?
> 
> Read through the given link, the connection model is detailed there.
> OnionCat does not yet perform optional source authentication HS
> handshake, so if you want that you'll need another layer.

Yes, you are right. The destination OC reuses the TCP session of the incoming 
connection.

But it would be not much effort to implement this into OC. Actually I did it 
by intense because using a separate connection back would double the HS 
connection setup time which was extremely high (up to 30 seconds) at the time 
OC was developed.

We are currently polishing the website, the code of OC and so on up. Probably 
I'll add this feature.

Bernhard


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Re: [tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-04-02 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
On Wednesday 27 March 2013 07:36:42 mirimir wrote:
> On 03/27/2013 05:38 AM, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote:
> > On Wednesday 27 March 2013 04:59:41 mirimir wrote:
> >> OpenVPN clients connect with servers via Tor in TCP mode.
> >> 
> >> But can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?
> >> 
> >> I searched quite a bit, but didn't find anything. That's surprising,
> >> because (in retrospect) the idea seems so obvious.
> >> 
> >> What am I missing?
> 
> 
> 
> > If you are trying to build an IP connection between hosts based on hidden
> > services, you may also use OnionCat. It does exactly what you are looking
> > for.
> > 
> > https://www.cypherpunk.at/onioncat/
> 
> Thank you. I didn't think of OnionCat, although I've read about it before.
> 
> Using OnionCat, would I be establishing a private point-to-point
> connection to the remote IPv6 address? Or would I be connecting to a
> common multi-point VPN, through which I could reach the remote IPv6
> address?


OC works point-to-point but of course several "clients" could connect to one 
central point. I put "clients" under quotes because OC implements the peer-to-
peer-model and not the client-server-model.

Since it offers a transparent IP connection you can additionally setup any 
kind of routing.


Regards,
Bernhard


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Re: [tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-03-27 Thread grarpamp
>> https://www.cypherpunk.at/onioncat/

> Using OnionCat, would I be establishing a private point-to-point
> connection to the remote IPv6 address? Or would I be connecting to a
> common multi-point VPN, through which I could reach the remote IPv6 address?

Read through the given link, the connection model is detailed there.
OnionCat does not yet perform optional source authentication HS
handshake, so if you want that you'll need another layer.
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Re: [tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-03-27 Thread mirimir
On 03/27/2013 05:38 AM, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 March 2013 04:59:41 mirimir wrote:
>> OpenVPN clients connect with servers via Tor in TCP mode.
>>
>> But can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?
>>
>> I searched quite a bit, but didn't find anything. That's surprising,
>> because (in retrospect) the idea seems so obvious.
>>
>> What am I missing?



> If you are trying to build an IP connection between hosts based on hidden 
> services, you may also use OnionCat. It does exactly what you are looking for.
> 
> https://www.cypherpunk.at/onioncat/ 

Thank you. I didn't think of OnionCat, although I've read about it before.

Using OnionCat, would I be establishing a private point-to-point
connection to the remote IPv6 address? Or would I be connecting to a
common multi-point VPN, through which I could reach the remote IPv6 address?

> Best regards,
> Bernhard




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Re: [tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-03-26 Thread mirimir
On 03/27/2013 05:03 AM, SiNA Rabbani wrote:

> Yes its very much possible. You would have the client connect via socks
> proxy over Tor to .onion VPN server.

Thank you. Do you know where I might find additional information?

> On Mar 26, 2013 9:11 PM, "mirimir"  wrote:
> 
>> OpenVPN clients connect with servers via Tor in TCP mode.
>>
>> But can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?
>>
>> I searched quite a bit, but didn't find anything. That's surprising,
>> because (in retrospect) the idea seems so obvious.
>>
>> What am I missing?



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Re: [tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-03-26 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
On Wednesday 27 March 2013 04:59:41 mirimir wrote:
> OpenVPN clients connect with servers via Tor in TCP mode.
> 
> But can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?
> 
> I searched quite a bit, but didn't find anything. That's surprising,
> because (in retrospect) the idea seems so obvious.
> 
> What am I missing?
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If you are trying to build an IP connection between hosts based on hidden 
services, you may also use OnionCat. It does exactly what you are looking for.

https://www.cypherpunk.at/onioncat/ 

Best regards,
Bernhard


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Re: [tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-03-26 Thread SiNA Rabbani
Yes its very much possible. You would have the client connect via socks
proxy over Tor to .onion VPN server.
On Mar 26, 2013 9:11 PM, "mirimir"  wrote:

> OpenVPN clients connect with servers via Tor in TCP mode.
>
> But can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?
>
> I searched quite a bit, but didn't find anything. That's surprising,
> because (in retrospect) the idea seems so obvious.
>
> What am I missing?
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[tor-talk] Can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

2013-03-26 Thread mirimir
OpenVPN clients connect with servers via Tor in TCP mode.

But can OpenVPN servers be run as Tor hidden services?

I searched quite a bit, but didn't find anything. That's surprising,
because (in retrospect) the idea seems so obvious.

What am I missing?
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