Re: [tor-talk] Deterministic Builds - was: Bridge Communities?

2013-04-14 Thread Gregory Disney
So the PKI method that bitcoin uses is a sha256 encoding + sha1 decoding.
The OR provides a PKI key (sha256) with hidden services, so the solution
may be switches that run openCL or CUDA to authenticate the key to the node
(parallel computing is still the fastest way to compute) . If the node key
does not match the node could be isolated from the network.


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM, adrelanos adrela...@riseup.net wrote:
  I assume you're the Gregory Disney who is also one builder of those
  Bitcoin deterministic builds? Since you're involved in Tor as well, I
  seems to me you could be a great help by providing some information
  about the Bitcoin build process.

 There is no Gregory Disney involved with Bitcoin as far as I know.

  Where are the instructions how I (or someone else) not involved in
  Bitcoin development can produce bit identical builds of Bitcoin to match
  the hash sums which are also distribiuted on sourceforge? If there are
  none, could you provide them please?

 They're included with the source:

 https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/release-process.txt
 and
 https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib/gitian-descriptors

  Can their system be applied for Tor as well or are there any differences?

 Yes. It may take a little jiggling to get the builds to actually be
 deterministic for any particular package, but they should be
 applicable to anything.
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Re: [tor-talk] Deterministic Builds - was: Bridge Communities?

2013-04-14 Thread adrelanos
Gregory Maxwell:
 On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM, adrelanos adrela...@riseup.net wrote:
 I assume you're the Gregory Disney who is also one builder of those
 Bitcoin deterministic builds? Since you're involved in Tor as well, I
 seems to me you could be a great help by providing some information
 about the Bitcoin build process.
 
 There is no Gregory Disney involved with Bitcoin as far as I know.

I meant Gregory Maxwell. Sorry, I messed that up.
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Re: [tor-talk] Deterministic Builds - was: Bridge Communities?

2013-04-14 Thread Alex M (Coyo)

On 04/13/2013 10:44 PM, adrelanos wrote:

Hi Gregory!

Gregory Disney:

Let's not dread on things out of our control; IMO we should use these
concerns to develop solutions then turn them into soultions that we can
implement. Obviously we can't develop around assassinations nor state
funded terrorism, but we can develop a solution for  backdoors
and information leaks.

Agreed!

Let's talk about deterministic builds:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3688

It looks like the Bitcoin software already supports deterministic Builds
with gitian:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib

I assume you're the Gregory Disney who is also one builder of those
Bitcoin deterministic builds? Since you're involved in Tor as well, I
seems to me you could be a great help by providing some information
about the Bitcoin build process.

Where are the instructions how I (or someone else) not involved in
Bitcoin development can produce bit identical builds of Bitcoin to match
the hash sums which are also distribiuted on sourceforge? If there are
none, could you provide them please?

Can their system be applied for Tor as well or are there any differences?


This sounds interesting.

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[tor-talk] Deterministic Builds - was: Bridge Communities?

2013-04-13 Thread adrelanos
Hi Gregory!

Gregory Disney:
 Let's not dread on things out of our control; IMO we should use these
 concerns to develop solutions then turn them into soultions that we can
 implement. Obviously we can't develop around assassinations nor state
 funded terrorism, but we can develop a solution for  backdoors
 and information leaks.

Agreed!

Let's talk about deterministic builds:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3688

It looks like the Bitcoin software already supports deterministic Builds
with gitian:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib

I assume you're the Gregory Disney who is also one builder of those
Bitcoin deterministic builds? Since you're involved in Tor as well, I
seems to me you could be a great help by providing some information
about the Bitcoin build process.

Where are the instructions how I (or someone else) not involved in
Bitcoin development can produce bit identical builds of Bitcoin to match
the hash sums which are also distribiuted on sourceforge? If there are
none, could you provide them please?

Can their system be applied for Tor as well or are there any differences?

Cheers,
adrelanos
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Re: [tor-talk] Deterministic Builds - was: Bridge Communities?

2013-04-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM, adrelanos adrela...@riseup.net wrote:
 I assume you're the Gregory Disney who is also one builder of those
 Bitcoin deterministic builds? Since you're involved in Tor as well, I
 seems to me you could be a great help by providing some information
 about the Bitcoin build process.

There is no Gregory Disney involved with Bitcoin as far as I know.

 Where are the instructions how I (or someone else) not involved in
 Bitcoin development can produce bit identical builds of Bitcoin to match
 the hash sums which are also distribiuted on sourceforge? If there are
 none, could you provide them please?

They're included with the source:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/release-process.txt
and
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib/gitian-descriptors

 Can their system be applied for Tor as well or are there any differences?

Yes. It may take a little jiggling to get the builds to actually be
deterministic for any particular package, but they should be
applicable to anything.
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