[tor-talk] TB-1.4.2

2011-09-09 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
I have install the TB-1.4.2 on my Iceweasel 3.5.16 working under Debian
Squeeze AMD64.
I can see new option "New Identity" in that version of TB, but it is
disables.
What is that option and why it disabled?
Furtherinmore, there are no option "reffer spoof" in the TB-1.4.2; why?
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Re: [tor-talk] TB-1.4.2

2011-09-09 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 07:41:28AM +, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote:
> I have install the TB-1.4.2 on my Iceweasel 3.5.16 working under Debian
> Squeeze AMD64.

You should realize that using Torbutton on your own browser is a dying
concept:
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/toggle-or-not-toggle-end-torbutton
There aren't that many known bugs now in using Torbutton this way,
but in a few months there may well be known serious bugs that we have
chosen not to fix.

> I can see new option "New Identity" in that version of TB, but it is
> disables.
> What is that option and why it disabled?

http://archives.seul.org/tor/talk/Aug-2011/msg00241.html

"However, the New Identity button and the Hotmail fix are only
available to Tor Browser Bundle users."

> Furtherinmore, there are no option "reffer spoof" in the TB-1.4.2; why?

The changelog of Torbutton 1.4.1 includes
  * bug 3809: Disable referer spoofing (fixes navigation issues)

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3809

--Roger

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Re: [tor-talk] TB-1.4.2

2011-09-09 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
On 09.09.2011 10:36, Roger Dingledine wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 07:41:28AM +, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote:
>> I have install the TB-1.4.2 on my Iceweasel 3.5.16 working under Debian
>> Squeeze AMD64.
> 
> You should realize that using Torbutton on your own browser is a dying
> concept:
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/toggle-or-not-toggle-end-torbutton

As I remember when the discussing that issue was expressed the opinion
that in the Debian's Iceweales (as an old version of FF) it was not
needing urgently to migrate to the Tor Browser Bundles.
> There aren't that many known bugs now in using Torbutton this way,
> but in a few months there may well be known serious bugs that we have
> chosen not to fix.
>  
So, it was wrong and it needs to migrate.
When the Tor team you intend to release a deb-packet for the TBB?

>> I can see new option "New Identity" in that version of TB, but it is
>> disables.
>> What is that option and why it disabled?
> 
> http://archives.seul.org/tor/talk/Aug-2011/msg00241.html
> 
> "However, the New Identity button and the Hotmail fix are only
> available to Tor Browser Bundle users."
> 
>> Furtherinmore, there are no option "reffer spoof" in the TB-1.4.2; why?
> 
> The changelog of Torbutton 1.4.1 includes
>   * bug 3809: Disable referer spoofing (fixes navigation issues)
> 
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3809
> 
> --Roger
> 
What means the next: "Referer spoofing breaks browser navigation due to
an interaction with our content policy"? And why Mike think that the
referrer blocking feature is not very useful?
It seems to me that it - if that works without another problem - could
increase anonimity, am I wrong?

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Re: [tor-talk] TB-1.4.2

2011-09-09 Thread Greg Kalitnikoff
Is there a way to not to close Vidalia and Tor itself with browser
exit? Or open TB`s Firefox separately fully functional, with "New
identity" option? When I need to restart FF or when it crashes, it is
very inconvenient to start all cycle again: Vidalia-Tor
connect-Browser. I realize that it is the only reason for me right now
wny I run Firefox separately (though that one which TB contains).
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Re: [tor-talk] TB-1.4.2

2011-09-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk

On 9/9/2011 7:20 AM, Greg Kalitnikoff wrote:

Is there a way to not to close Vidalia and Tor itself with browser
exit? Or open TB`s Firefox separately fully functional, with "New
identity" option? When I need to restart FF or when it crashes, it is
very inconvenient to start all cycle again: Vidalia-Tor
connect-Browser. I realize that it is the only reason for me right now
wny I run Firefox separately (though that one which TB contains).
Hi, I don't believe so.  I asked the same thing a few wks ago, because 
of running other apps thru Tor, when didn't necessarily want / need TBB 
open.  Or, if TBB hangs / crashes, & don't want to lose Tor connection 
on the other app(s).


Answer I was given - Tor/ Vidalia & TBB can be installed on same 
machine, because TBB runs out of it's own folder (or off a USB drive) & 
uses separate Firefox profile.  Running both at SAME time could be a 
problem (don't remember that part of answer), but haven't tried it out yet.


I've slept since then, & forgot exactly what one of the gurus said - ** 
if TBB & Tor - Vidalia bundle could be RUN at same time (perhaps w/ some 
mods)? **  I'd appreciate a refresher on that.:)

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