Re: [tor-talk] TPO/TBB clone on SourceForge, use of TPO name

2014-09-23 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Il 9/22/14, 11:42 PM, grarpamp ha scritto:
 Whether clones or worse, there's something
 very weird going on with these guys.
Here an OSINT notes/analysis on several of that suspicious software:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqtQ4kKC2rLzdEVjWkxTcUVTTWxmdnh4VWFDY25zTHcusp=sharing

I've been particularly considering also other suspicious software that
has been strangely solicited/promoted across many activists community
but comes from unknown/anonymous persons.

Please note that such TorProject copycat site seems to be particularly
targeting UAE users from Sourceforge's stats:
- TorBrowser (16.170 download with 2nd top-country UAE)
- Browser4Tor  (357 download, with 46% from UAE)

That analysis is a bit old, September 2013, but may contain userful info
for people digging into that problem.

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Re: [tor-talk] TPO/TBB clone on SourceForge, use of TPO name

2014-09-23 Thread krishna e bera
On 14-09-23 12:45 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
 Il 9/22/14, 11:42 PM, grarpamp ha scritto:
 Whether clones or worse, there's something
 very weird going on with these guys.
 Here an OSINT notes/analysis on several of that suspicious software:
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqtQ4kKC2rLzdEVjWkxTcUVTTWxmdnh4VWFDY25zTHcusp=sharing
 
 I've been particularly considering also other suspicious software that
 has been strangely solicited/promoted across many activists community
 but comes from unknown/anonymous persons.
 
 Please note that such TorProject copycat site seems to be particularly
 targeting UAE users from Sourceforge's stats:
 - TorBrowser (16.170 download with 2nd top-country UAE)
 - Browser4Tor  (357 download, with 46% from UAE)
 
 That analysis is a bit old, September 2013, but may contain userful info
 for people digging into that problem.

Also TorProject.org and mirrors may be blocked by countries or by
netnannies/firewalls, but SourceForge and Cnet download sites typically
arent, even though they often contain malware of late.  Thus the uptake
on malicious fakes can be high for some of Tor's likely users.




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Re: [tor-talk] TPO/TBB clone on SourceForge, use of TPO name

2014-09-23 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:57 PM, krishna e bera k...@cyblings.on.ca wrote:
 On 14-09-23 12:45 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
 Here an OSINT notes/analysis on several of that suspicious software:
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqtQ4kKC2rLzdEVjWkxTcUVTTWxmdnh4VWFDY25zTHcusp=sharing

 I've been particularly considering also other suspicious software that
 has been strangely solicited/promoted across many activists community
 but comes from unknown/anonymous persons.

 Please note that such TorProject copycat site seems to be particularly
 targeting UAE users from Sourceforge's stats:
 - TorBrowser (16.170 download with 2nd top-country UAE)
 - Browser4Tor  (357 download, with 46% from UAE)

 That analysis is a bit old, September 2013, but may contain userful info
 for people digging into that problem.

 Also TorProject.org and mirrors may be blocked by countries or by
 netnannies/firewalls, but SourceForge and Cnet download sites typically
 arent, even though they often contain malware of late.  Thus the uptake
 on malicious fakes can be high for some of Tor's likely users.

Randolph tried to spam cpunks with firefloo.sf.net which spawned
various posts/threads including some new OSINT and mail exchange
with them...

https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2014-September/date.html
https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2014-September/005505.html

I've seen some postings/accounts from, or related to, these guys
on Cnet, Linkedin, Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia, etc but haven't
yet collated the links as it was easier and just as well to call
them out in email and get it indexed that way.

People should feel free to add my intel to the sheet, or to their
own work, and to carry any efforts forward. Thanks.
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[tor-talk] TPO/TBB clone on SourceForge, use of TPO name

2014-09-22 Thread grarpamp
Whether clones or worse, there's something
very weird going on with these guys.

http://browser4tor.sourceforge.net/
http://torbrowser.sourceforge.net/

Has anyone dissected this software?

Was this issue ever resolved?

Does anyone know of any other instances and
URL's where a TPO project has been seriously
abused like this. (I don't mean casual use of
the string 'tor' in the name of other projects or
simple bundlings of tor. ie: things like torchat
and piratebrowser don't count as in this degree).

What's the trac ticket for these, or this sort of thing?
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Re: [tor-talk] TPO/TBB clone on SourceForge, use of TPO name

2014-09-22 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 09/22/2014 05:42 PM, grarpamp wrote:

 What's the trac ticket for these, or this sort of thing?

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/11515

Sourceforge/Dice don't care. We even sent them snail mail to no effect.

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Re: [tor-talk] TPO/TBB clone on SourceForge, use of TPO name

2014-09-22 Thread Nima Fatemi
Andrew Lewman wrote:
 On 09/22/2014 05:42 PM, grarpamp wrote:
 
 What's the trac ticket for these, or this sort of thing?
 
 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/11515
 
 Sourceforge/Dice don't care. We even sent them snail mail to no effect.
 

Seems like the one mentioned in #11515 is gone, either those letters
have been actually effective or the maintainer decided to remove the
project (which imo is unlikely to be the case).

I say it's worth a shot to submit another complaint for these two forks.

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Re: [tor-talk] TPO/TBB clone on SourceForge, use of TPO name

2014-09-22 Thread Griffin Boyce

Nima Fatemi wrote:

Seems like the one mentioned in #11515 is gone, either those letters
have been actually effective or the maintainer decided to remove the
project (which imo is unlikely to be the case).

I say it's worth a shot to submit another complaint for these two 
forks.


  I've complained on both of those.  After some digging, I *might* have 
located one of the maintainers (Sergey Varankevich).  Reached out and 
will let you know if I hear anything back.


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