[tor-talk] Torproject.org Being Censored in Canada
Hello Gents, I made a disturbing discovery for me and my fellow Canucks today when I was sitting at a Tim Hortons(very popular coffee chain in Canada that provides free WiFi) enjoying my coffee while working on my laptop. When I went to venture to torproject.org to go lookup some documentation I encountered a invalid cert page from chrome, upon further investigation I found the cert that the server was providing was from a that provides IT services to said coffee chain. I also quick popped up nmap and did a quick traceroute and found the server not to be one of the ones regularly in the tor projects regular pool. At this point I am not sure how to proceed to see that this injustice is fixed. Below is a link to screenshots that I took and a export version of the bad cert. http://imgur.com/a/h3kXB https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3449800/badtor.cer Regards, -- Andrew Paolucci www.paolucci.ca W: +1 (647) 692-0632 M: +1 (416) 276-2021 F: +1 (905) 508-6141 S: adpaolucci ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Torproject.org Being Censored in Canada
Hi! Growing up in Toronto, I have many memories at Tim Hortons :) It seems that Tim Hortons is using some Wifi service that is rewriting torprojects.org's website: http://www.datavalet.com/index.php/en/services/guess-access-networks Can you try connecting to some mirrors: http://torproject.is/dist/ https://www.torservers.net/mirrors/torproject.org/dist/ All the best, SiNA Try Andrew Paolucci: Hello Gents, I made a disturbing discovery for me and my fellow Canucks today when I was sitting at a Tim Hortons(very popular coffee chain in Canada that provides free WiFi) enjoying my coffee while working on my laptop. When I went to venture to torproject.org to go lookup some documentation I encountered a invalid cert page from chrome, upon further investigation I found the cert that the server was providing was from a that provides IT services to said coffee chain. I also quick popped up nmap and did a quick traceroute and found the server not to be one of the ones regularly in the tor projects regular pool. At this point I am not sure how to proceed to see that this injustice is fixed. Below is a link to screenshots that I took and a export version of the bad cert. http://imgur.com/a/h3kXB https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3449800/badtor.cer Regards, -- “Be the change you want to see in the world.” Gandhi ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Torproject.org Being Censored in Canada
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:41:19 -0400 Andrew Paolucci adpaolu...@gmail.com wrote: I made a disturbing discovery for me and my fellow Canucks today when I was sitting at a Tim Hortons(very popular coffee chain in Canada that provides free WiFi) enjoying my coffee while working on my laptop. Tim Horton's filters their wifi. Most coffee shops do. They subscribe, or use a 3rd party who subscribes, to commercial blocklists, like Websense, who classify torproject.org as a proxy avoidance site (why yes, yes we are and we're funded to do just that) as if the world will end when Tim Horton's can't stalk all their customers for datamining, malware protection, or safety--or whatever silly reason they have for censoring the Internet. About the only course of action is to complain to Tim Horton's every time. -- Andrew http://tpo.is/contact pgp 0x6B4D6475 ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Torproject.org Being Censored in Canada
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.is wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:41:19 -0400 Andrew Paolucci adpaolu...@gmail.com wrote: I made a disturbing discovery for me and my fellow Canucks today when I was sitting at a Tim Hortons(very popular coffee chain in Canada that provides free WiFi) enjoying my coffee while working on my laptop. Tim Horton's filters their wifi. Most coffee shops do. They subscribe, or use a 3rd party who subscribes, to commercial blocklists, like Websense, who classify torproject.org as a proxy avoidance site (why yes, yes we are and we're funded to do just that) as if the world will end when Tim Horton's can't stalk all their customers for datamining, malware protection, or safety--or whatever silly reason they have for censoring the Internet. About the only course of action is to complain to Tim Horton's every time. Anecdotal evidence in my possession suggests that direct complaints will not work. That said, I do have some ideas that I'll bring up with Andrew P offlist. FWIW though, I *never* use open wifi, most especially corporate-sponsored free wifi for the reasons mentioned above. -- Scott Elcomb @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca / Github more Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems http://code.google.com/p/atomos/ Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Torproject.org Being Censored in Canada
Anecdotal evidence in my possession suggests that direct complaints will not work. That said, I do have some ideas that I'll bring up Explaining blockage to local staff will result in dumb stares. Any staffer who brings it up in a meeting will be passed over. Any manager who brings it to corp will be passed over. These are mega fad franchises, they don't care about losing a few customers. It only accelerates their pump and dump model. You might be well served to describe in terms of not being able to use your 'corp VPN' via their net... FWIW though, I *never* use open wifi, most especially corporate-sponsored free wifi for the reasons mentioned above. Central logging, every Starbucks all back to one point, one more reason to always change your MAC. While the big chains do contract with site filter companies, to the point of making use of Tor over them perhaps a better esperience... there are plenty of small stores offering free unfiltered service to those who wish to access a site that blocks Tor exits. In a way, the small store often becomes a frustrated Tor user's guaranteed path to popular services, under some level of acceptable location tradeoff. Now if Tor could be peer aware and connect and exit relay through other Tor nodes also using such small shops, there would be no location tradeoff... It's another toggle in vidalia... I'm in an open shop, help my friends. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
