Re: [tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits
On 4/8/2011 5:35 PM, Mike Perry wrote: Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com): Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 There's an endless, constantly increasing list of scrubbed circuits - like below. It just keeps going thru them like a ticker tape. "Apr 08 14:36:37.277 [Notice] We tried for 15 seconds to connect to '[scrubbed]' using exit 'politkovskaja'. Retrying on a new circuit." NOTE: I CAN connect to some sites using Tor - so it IS working, it's just so slow, apparently because of all the scrubbed circuits, it's of no use for anything. Any ideas what's causing this behavior? I did uninstall / reinstall tor bundle. Have closed Tor& browser, then restarted - no joy. One of the things that can cause this is a set of bad guards (the first hop in your Tor circuits). If you got unlucky and Tor picked only slow guards, this can cause you poor performance. You can check them out in the vidalia window by noting the first hop in your circuits. There should only be 3 different nodes chosen for that first hop. Note you should not post your guard list in public, as it can be used to identify you. If that is the issue, you can try using bridges to see if that helps, or you could try to stop tor and wipe away your tor state file, which will cause new guards to be chosen. Are you saying a "bad" guards can cause an ENDLESS, rapid stream of log entries: "We tried for 15 seconds to connect to '[scrubbed]' using exit 'x'. Retrying on a new circuit"? When it is doing this (it seems) the listed speed of the 3 nodes in the 1st hop are often listed as high. Listed speed may mean nothing. If it * does * mean anything, then that isn't the only problem in my case, because they often show higher speeds. But I digress. If we're talking about same thing, the entry guard - in Tor Network Map, 1st entry under "connection" column in L pane? When select that 1st connection, shows 3 nodes in R pane, w/ their IP address, bandwidth, etc. Early last evening, after reinstalling Vidalia bundle again, I was able to load pages * almost as fast as w/o Tor. * (yes, I'm sure Tor was working) I tried a # of pages - all worked well. Looked at the Vidalia log - didn't see constant stream scrubbed circuits. It was still quite early & would've been lots of traffic. Regardless of what the 1st 3 nodes look like, it *seems * when I'm able to connect to a site - at all - the behavior of an endless stream of scrubbed circuits in the log is NOT happening. When it IS happening, connecting to any site (not high traffic ones, or very slow servers) either fails or takes well > 1 min (usually more, IF at all). Usually, by then it times out. It's not the site's servers, because can stop Tor & same sites load instantly. I've tried this on numerous sites, days & times, that I know to usually be fast w/o Tor - or w/o it. If this was the typical state / function of Tor network, no one would be using it, so I know it can't be happening to everyone on a regular basis. This is now the norm rather than exception, for me. As it is, Tor is useless for me > 90% of time (I mean it won't load pages - at ALL). Today, checked it again & basically can't load pages at all - even though (at times) the 3 nodes in entry guard all show fairly high speeds, while still unable ot load pages. Again, at times, entry guard changes frequently. I stopped Tor, wiped the Tor state file (the "lock" file - what ever it can contain - is empty now). It did cause pages to load much faster - for now. If "bad" entry guards are the problem AND if happening to most users MOST of the time, like me, I'll need a "clear Tor state file" button addon. :-( By design, how often does the entry guard (and the 3 nodes in it) change / get refreshed - w/ no user intervention? I've noticed at times, mine seems to change quite often - sometimes every 30 - 60 sec or so. When I AM able to load pages normally (by Tor standards), I don't think the entry guard is constantly changing, but the log definitely does not show a constant stream of scrubbed entries. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits
Edit: I uninstalled / reinstalled Vidalia bundle (once more). This time I del all files in (Vista) C:\users\\App Data\Roaming\Tor\ Now as soon as start Tor & enable Tor button 1.3.2, pages load fairly quickly. I don't think it should be necessary to install / uninstall / reinstall 3 times to get it to work. I always shut all other prgms before installing. Though never have problems installing prgms w/ Kaspersky IS 2011 running (it notifies whether it trusts the prgm or not), I shut it down & disconn. from web. After doing all the above, seems to finally work. Maybe this will help others. On 4/8/2011 2:46 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 Loading the simplest web page (no busy sites, no d/l sites, etc.) is incredibly slow, & usually times out. Much slower than I've ever seen it unless there was something wrong w/ internet conn in general. Seems like it started when upgraded (actually did clean install) of latest Vidalia bundle. Not a one time thing - have tried it on diff days at diff times - always slow. Software seems to be loading OK - Tor, vidalia, polipo are all running. Tor chk sites confirm using Tor exit node. There's an endless, constantly increasing list of scrubbed circuits - like below. It just keeps going thru them like a ticker tape. "Apr 08 14:36:37.277 [Notice] We tried for 15 seconds to connect to '[scrubbed]' using exit 'politkovskaja'. Retrying on a new circuit." NOTE: I CAN connect to some sites using Tor - so it IS working, it's just so slow, apparently because of all the scrubbed circuits, it's of no use for anything. Any ideas what's causing this behavior? I did uninstall / reinstall tor bundle. Have closed Tor & browser, then restarted - no joy. Thanks. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits
Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com): > Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, > Firefox 4.0 > > There's an endless, constantly increasing list of scrubbed circuits - > like below. It just keeps going thru them like a ticker tape. > "Apr 08 14:36:37.277 [Notice] We tried for 15 seconds to connect to > '[scrubbed]' using exit 'politkovskaja'. Retrying on a new circuit." > > NOTE: I CAN connect to some sites using Tor - so it IS working, it's > just so slow, apparently because of all the scrubbed circuits, it's of > no use for anything. > > Any ideas what's causing this behavior? I did uninstall / reinstall tor > bundle. Have closed Tor & browser, then restarted - no joy. One of the things that can cause this is a set of bad guards (the first hop in your Tor circuits). If you got unlucky and Tor picked only slow guards, this can cause you poor performance. You can check them out in the vidalia window by noting the first hop in your circuits. There should only be 3 different nodes chosen for that first hop. Note you should not post your guard list in public, as it can be used to identify you. If that is the issue, you can try using bridges to see if that helps, or you could try to stop tor and wipe away your tor state file, which will cause new guards to be chosen. -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs pgpfd5I1gPnn8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits
Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 Loading the simplest web page (no busy sites, no d/l sites, etc.) is incredibly slow, & usually times out. Much slower than I've ever seen it unless there was something wrong w/ internet conn in general. Seems like it started when upgraded (actually did clean install) of latest Vidalia bundle. Not a one time thing - have tried it on diff days at diff times - always slow. Software seems to be loading OK - Tor, vidalia, polipo are all running. Tor chk sites confirm using Tor exit node. There's an endless, constantly increasing list of scrubbed circuits - like below. It just keeps going thru them like a ticker tape. "Apr 08 14:36:37.277 [Notice] We tried for 15 seconds to connect to '[scrubbed]' using exit 'politkovskaja'. Retrying on a new circuit." NOTE: I CAN connect to some sites using Tor - so it IS working, it's just so slow, apparently because of all the scrubbed circuits, it's of no use for anything. Any ideas what's causing this behavior? I did uninstall / reinstall tor bundle. Have closed Tor & browser, then restarted - no joy. Thanks. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
