Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Marco Bonetti (si...@slackware.it):

> I did some quick tests with TBB on Linux, versions 0.2.33-2 and 0.2.33-3.
> In both cases I get these results:
> 1) https://check.torproject.org/ - no warning
> 2) https://check.torproject.org/?lang=en-US&small=1 - warning

Yes, we made this page warn because all TBBs fetching it without
adding uptodate=1 were assumed to be the old, vulnerable versions.

In hindsight, what we should have done was also create a small=2 page
with no warning, for use as the default in new TBBs when the versions
file is inaccessible. I didn't expect this case to happen, but I also
didn't expect deployment of #4222 to span 24 hours..

> 3) https://check.torproject.org/?lang=en-US&small=1&uptodate=1 - no warning
> 
> 2 was the home page used in TBB 0.2.33-2
> 3 is the newer home page used in TBB 0.2.33-3
> 
> Ciao,
> Marco
> 
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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk

On 10/13/2011 3:48 AM, Mike Perry wrote:

Thus spake Koh Choon Lin (2choon...@gmail.com):


Hi


the same think happened for me...
after downloading the nwe version and running TBB

aurora come out with the same message of update...

Second that.

What URL are you guys being sent to on check.torproject.org? Have you
tried restarting Tor Browser in the past couple hours? You need to
restart to actually perform the versioncheck...
I  think you misunderstood the later posts after OP - the REAL latest - 
latest TBB ver was downloaded & on FIRST start gave the notice an update 
was avail.
I believe others said it's fixed now (thanks) - but w/ the orig details 
of problem, there shouldn't be any need  to install a new ver & 
immediately RESTART it to stop false warnings.  That makes no sense.  It 
wasn't just that it DID a ver check on 1st start, but said a new ver was 
avail, when it wasn't.

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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Koh Choon Lin
Hi

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Koh Choon Lin <2choon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
>> the same think happened for me...
>> after downloading the nwe version and running TBB
>>
>> aurora come out with the same message of update...
>
> Second that.
>

I did a check again and its fixed now. Thanks tor.



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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Zaher F .

it is fixed now.

> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:42:56 +0800
> From: 2choon...@gmail.com
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install   
> latest TBB
> 
> Hi
> 
> > the same think happened for me...
> > after downloading the nwe version and running TBB
> >
> > aurora come out with the same message of update...
> 
> Second that.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Marco Bonetti
I did some quick tests with TBB on Linux, versions 0.2.33-2 and 0.2.33-3.
In both cases I get these results:
1) https://check.torproject.org/ - no warning
2) https://check.torproject.org/?lang=en-US&small=1 - warning
3) https://check.torproject.org/?lang=en-US&small=1&uptodate=1 - no warning

2 was the home page used in TBB 0.2.33-2
3 is the newer home page used in TBB 0.2.33-3

Ciao,
Marco

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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Koh Choon Lin (2choon...@gmail.com):

> Hi
> 
> > the same think happened for me...
> > after downloading the nwe version and running TBB
> >
> > aurora come out with the same message of update...
> 
> Second that.

What URL are you guys being sent to on check.torproject.org? Have you
tried restarting Tor Browser in the past couple hours? You need to
restart to actually perform the versioncheck...

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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-12 Thread Koh Choon Lin
Hi

> the same think happened for me...
> after downloading the nwe version and running TBB
>
> aurora come out with the same message of update...

Second that.



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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-12 Thread Zaher F .

the same think happened for me...
after downloading the nwe version and running TBB
aurora come out with the same message of update...


THX



> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:50:20 -0500
> From: joebtfs...@gmx.com
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install 
> latest TBB
> 
> On 10/12/2011 10:05 AM, and...@torproject.org wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:47:26AM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 0.5K 
> > bytes in 11 lines about:
> > : Immediately after extracting / starting the "latest stable" TBB
> > : 2.2.33-2 (today) from
> > : https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en, Aurora
> > : popped a msg saying a newer version was available.
> >
> > What time did you get the notice on check? The updated version file was
> > in place at 2011-10-12 12:53 GMT. Prior to that time, you may have hit a
> > false positive result.
> 
> Well, I see the version (S) listed apparently did change just after I 
> d/l it this morning, BUT...
> 
> There are still diff ver #s listed in diff places as the "latest."
> Here, (dated * Sept.* 10, 2011 ???) it says the new ver is *Tor Browser 
> Bundle (2.2.32-4) -   
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-6***
> **I don't know if the page url "... bundles-6" refers to ver of Firefox, 
> but if so, shouldn't it be "bundles-7"?
> 
> Follow that link - for Windows - & it says: /Version 2.2.33-3/.  So, 
> what is the latest TBB version?
> 
> My apologies, but I've thought for a while that news about new releases 
> for many Tor Project apps was a bit disorganized.  I see diff things 
> about releases, in diff places on the Tor site.
> This isn't a big deal - I just think it could be better organized.  At 
> times, sort of appears the right hand doesn't know what the left is 
> doing.  I understand developers are in a rush, but Tor is confusing 
> enough for less savvy users w/o posting conflicting info.  I don't 
> consider myself (severely) "less savvy," but I know how they feel.
> *
> 
> 
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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-12 Thread Zaher F .

the same think happened for me...
after downloading the nwe version and running TBB 

aurora come out with the same message of update...


thx

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:50:20 -0500
> From: joebtfs...@gmx.com
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install 
> latest TBB
> 
> On 10/12/2011 10:05 AM, and...@torproject.org wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:47:26AM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 0.5K 
> > bytes in 11 lines about:
> > : Immediately after extracting / starting the "latest stable" TBB
> > : 2.2.33-2 (today) from
> > : https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en, Aurora
> > : popped a msg saying a newer version was available.
> >
> > What time did you get the notice on check? The updated version file was
> > in place at 2011-10-12 12:53 GMT. Prior to that time, you may have hit a
> > false positive result.
> 
> Well, I see the version (S) listed apparently did change just after I 
> d/l it this morning, BUT...
> 
> There are still diff ver #s listed in diff places as the "latest."
> Here, (dated * Sept.* 10, 2011 ???) it says the new ver is *Tor Browser 
> Bundle (2.2.32-4) -   
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-6***
> **I don't know if the page url "... bundles-6" refers to ver of Firefox, 
> but if so, shouldn't it be "bundles-7"?
> 
> Follow that link - for Windows - & it says: /Version 2.2.33-3/.  So, 
> what is the latest TBB version?
> 
> My apologies, but I've thought for a while that news about new releases 
> for many Tor Project apps was a bit disorganized.  I see diff things 
> about releases, in diff places on the Tor site.
> This isn't a big deal - I just think it could be better organized.  At 
> times, sort of appears the right hand doesn't know what the left is 
> doing.  I understand developers are in a rush, but Tor is confusing 
> enough for less savvy users w/o posting conflicting info.  I don't 
> consider myself (severely) "less savvy," but I know how they feel.
> *
> 
> 
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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk

On 10/12/2011 10:05 AM, and...@torproject.org wrote:

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:47:26AM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 0.5K bytes 
in 11 lines about:
: Immediately after extracting / starting the "latest stable" TBB
: 2.2.33-2 (today) from
: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en, Aurora
: popped a msg saying a newer version was available.

What time did you get the notice on check? The updated version file was
in place at 2011-10-12 12:53 GMT. Prior to that time, you may have hit a
false positive result.


Well, I see the version (S) listed apparently did change just after I 
d/l it this morning, BUT...


There are still diff ver #s listed in diff places as the "latest."
Here, (dated * Sept.* 10, 2011 ???) it says the new ver is *Tor Browser 
Bundle (2.2.32-4) -   
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-6***
**I don't know if the page url "... bundles-6" refers to ver of Firefox, 
but if so, shouldn't it be "bundles-7"?


Follow that link - for Windows - & it says: /Version 2.2.33-3/.  So, 
what is the latest TBB version?


My apologies, but I've thought for a while that news about new releases 
for many Tor Project apps was a bit disorganized.  I see diff things 
about releases, in diff places on the Tor site.
This isn't a big deal - I just think it could be better organized.  At 
times, sort of appears the right hand doesn't know what the left is 
doing.  I understand developers are in a rush, but Tor is confusing 
enough for less savvy users w/o posting conflicting info.  I don't 
consider myself (severely) "less savvy," but I know how they feel.

*


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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
NOTE:  my 2nd reply to Andrew's response - still getting "update 
available" after installing (latest) latest TBB.  Tor-talk must be down 
- not seen new msgs in a while.


On 10/12/2011 10:05 AM, and...@torproject.org wrote:

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:47:26AM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 0.5K bytes 
in 11 lines about:
: Immediately after extracting / starting the "latest stable" TBB
: 2.2.33-2 (today) from
: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en, Aurora
: popped a msg saying a newer version was available.  Unless the
: website is messed up on "latest version," then seems like some bug
: in the version checking for TBB?

What time did you get the notice on check? The updated version file was
in place at 2011-10-12 12:53 GMT. Prior to that time, you may have hit a
false positive result.
Downloaded what now appears to be latest - latest TBB - 2.2.33-3 & 
extracted.
When start TBB, it's still prompting w/ "an update is available for 
TBB."  When click link, the ver it shows is same I just unpacked 
2.2.33-3.  Yep, I'm sure that's the one I started, when getting this 
msg.  Looking in the folder where files were unpacked - in readme - 
clearly states ver is 2.2.33-3.

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Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-12 Thread andrew
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:47:26AM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 0.5K bytes 
in 11 lines about:
: Immediately after extracting / starting the "latest stable" TBB
: 2.2.33-2 (today) from
: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en, Aurora
: popped a msg saying a newer version was available.  Unless the
: website is messed up on "latest version," then seems like some bug
: in the version checking for TBB?

What time did you get the notice on check? The updated version file was
in place at 2011-10-12 12:53 GMT. Prior to that time, you may have hit a
false positive result.

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[tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Immediately after extracting / starting the "latest stable" TBB 2.2.33-2 
(today) from https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en, 
Aurora popped a msg saying a newer version was available.  Unless the 
website is messed up on "latest version," then seems like some bug in 
the version checking for TBB?


Thanks.
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