Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-15 Thread Sebastian Pfeifer
Am 15.09.2013 04:44, schrieb Roger Dingledine:
 On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 07:36:34PM +0200, Sebastian Pfeifer wrote:
 I now upgraded to Version 0.2.4.17-rc but it still crashes somehow, but
 without writing anything related to the logfiles.
 Sep 14 10:26:05.000 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done.
 Sep 14 11:19:58.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
 2358/2359 TAP, 4/4 NTor.
 Sep 14 12:19:59.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
 2422/2422 TAP, 16/16 NTor.
 Sep 14 13:19:58.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
 2563/2563 TAP, 35/35 NTor.
 Sep 14 19:30:55.000 [notice] Tor 0.2.4.17-rc (git-36eb3e0da4c3a821)
 opening log file.
 It stopped working at 15:32, at least Tor weather says that.
 It sounds like your Tor process is mysteriously disappearing.

 You might like
 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorFAQ#MyTorkeepscrashing.

 My guess is that it's running out of memory, and the system is
 quietly killing it. In that case 'dmesg' would give you some hints
 to confirm it.

 If that is the case, it's likely happening because all of these Tor
 clients are creating many more TLS connections, and each of those TLS
 connections makes OpenSSL use more memory. The current best fix is
 'then give it more memory'.

 --Roger
It somehow could be true what you say as I run tor on a machine with
really really really small RAM (128MB) as I don't 'shit' money as a
pupil to afford a bigger server.
I use Munin to monitor the server and it says that tor last used 80MB of
the RAM and then the graph stops at around 3PM so it might have been a
system or host related issue that tor stopped working this time.
top - 07:37:58 up 12:07,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Tasks:  67 total,   1 running,  66 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  8.2%us,  1.2%sy,  0.0%ni, 88.4%id,  0.3%wa,  1.2%hi,  0.8%si, 
0.0%st
Mem:124880k total,   118764k used, 6116k free,   24k buffers
Swap:   109560k total,54988k used,54572k free,13460k cached
This is what it mostly looks like...
dmesg doesn't show me anything related. (I never had to use it though -
It looks like it stops when the system reboots?)

As I currently can't just give it more memory, would it help to reduce
the bandwidth?
At the moment I have
RelayBandwidthRate 300 KB
RelayBandwidthBurst 350 KB
and
AccountingMax 450 GB
AccountingStart month 01 00:01

LG
Sebastian
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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-15 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:45:57 +0200
Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at wrote:

 It somehow could be true what you say as I run tor on a machine with
 really really really small RAM (128MB) as I don't 'shit' money as a
 pupil to afford a bigger server.

I wonder how much are you paying for it. For example [1] provides 512 MB of
RAM for $5/month. Is that really too expensive?

But even there, Tor regularly starts to use 200+ MB of swap, in effect it
tries to use ~700+ MB of RAM. So I would say trying to run a relay on just
120+106 MB as you are trying to do is not feasible currently.

(Although I run a 64 bit system there in hope that crypto would be faster on
64 bit; possibly the RAM usage would be lower on 32 bit).

[1] https://www.digitalocean.com/

 I use Munin to monitor the server and it says that tor last used 80MB of
 the RAM and then the graph stops at around 3PM so it might have been a
 system or host related issue that tor stopped working this time.
 top - 07:37:58 up 12:07,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
 Tasks:  67 total,   1 running,  66 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  8.2%us,  1.2%sy,  0.0%ni, 88.4%id,  0.3%wa,  1.2%hi,  0.8%si, 
 0.0%st
 Mem:124880k total,   118764k used, 6116k free,   24k buffers
 Swap:   109560k total,54988k used,54572k free,13460k cached


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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-14 Thread Sebastian Pfeifer

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I now upgraded to Version 0.2.4.17-rc but it still crashes somehow, but
without writing anything related to the logfiles.
Sep 14 10:26:05.000 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done.
Sep 14 11:19:58.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
2358/2359 TAP, 4/4 NTor.
Sep 14 12:19:59.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
2422/2422 TAP, 16/16 NTor.
Sep 14 13:19:58.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
2563/2563 TAP, 35/35 NTor.
Sep 14 19:30:55.000 [notice] Tor 0.2.4.17-rc (git-36eb3e0da4c3a821)
opening log file.
It stopped working at 15:32, at least Tor weather says that.


Am 13.09.2013 22:46, schrieb Elrippo:
 Du solltest die repositories von Tor verwenden.
 Bitte nutze die experimental [1] repo. Danach ein update und upgrade
auf 2.4.17-rc

 [1] https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en





 Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:

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  Tor 0.2.3.25 on Debian

  Am 13.09.2013 21:52, schrieb Elrippo:
  Which version of Tor are you running?
 
 
 
 
  Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:
  Hi all!
  From a quick search over my phone's internet I wasn't really able
  to
  find a similar case so I ask this here:
 
  Since a few days my Tor Exit Node keeps crashing. The logfile says
  Sep 12 22:58:29.000 [warn] Your computer is too slow to handle
  this
  many circuit creation requests! Please consider using the
  MaxAdvertisedBandwidth config option or choosing a more restricted
  exit
 
  policy. [27 similar message(s) suppressed in last 60 seconds]
 
  But the CPU is never loaded more than 40% and RAM only up to 70%...
  So
  whats up with that?
 
  LG,
  Sebastian
 
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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-14 Thread Elrippo
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You have to be pacient..
That relates to the NTor Handshake. Unfortunately there aren't so many nodes 
with 2.4.17-** or higher installed. Growing but solely :D



Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:

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I now upgraded to Version 0.2.4.17-rc but it still crashes somehow, but
without writing anything related to the logfiles.
Sep 14 10:26:05.000 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done.
Sep 14 11:19:58.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
2358/2359 TAP, 4/4 NTor.
Sep 14 12:19:59.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
2422/2422 TAP, 16/16 NTor.
Sep 14 13:19:58.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
2563/2563 TAP, 35/35 NTor.
Sep 14 19:30:55.000 [notice] Tor 0.2.4.17-rc (git-36eb3e0da4c3a821)
opening log file.
It stopped working at 15:32, at least Tor weather says that.


Am 13.09.2013 22:46, schrieb Elrippo:
 Du solltest die repositories von Tor verwenden.
 Bitte nutze die experimental [1] repo. Danach ein update und upgrade
auf 2.4.17-rc

 [1] https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en





 Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:

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  Tor 0.2.3.25 on Debian

  Am 13.09.2013 21:52, schrieb Elrippo:
  Which version of Tor are you running?
 
 
 
 
  Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:
  Hi all!
  From a quick search over my phone's internet I wasn't really able
  to
  find a similar case so I ask this here:
 
  Since a few days my Tor Exit Node keeps crashing. The logfile
says
  Sep 12 22:58:29.000 [warn] Your computer is too slow to handle
  this
  many circuit creation requests! Please consider using the
  MaxAdvertisedBandwidth config option or choosing a more
restricted
  exit
 
  policy. [27 similar message(s) suppressed in last 60 seconds]
 
  But the CPU is never loaded more than 40% and RAM only up to
70%...
  So
  whats up with that?
 
  LG,
  Sebastian
 
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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-14 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 07:36:34PM +0200, Sebastian Pfeifer wrote:
 I now upgraded to Version 0.2.4.17-rc but it still crashes somehow, but
 without writing anything related to the logfiles.
 Sep 14 10:26:05.000 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done.
 Sep 14 11:19:58.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
 2358/2359 TAP, 4/4 NTor.
 Sep 14 12:19:59.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
 2422/2422 TAP, 16/16 NTor.
 Sep 14 13:19:58.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time:
 2563/2563 TAP, 35/35 NTor.
 Sep 14 19:30:55.000 [notice] Tor 0.2.4.17-rc (git-36eb3e0da4c3a821)
 opening log file.
 It stopped working at 15:32, at least Tor weather says that.

It sounds like your Tor process is mysteriously disappearing.

You might like
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorFAQ#MyTorkeepscrashing.

My guess is that it's running out of memory, and the system is
quietly killing it. In that case 'dmesg' would give you some hints
to confirm it.

If that is the case, it's likely happening because all of these Tor
clients are creating many more TLS connections, and each of those TLS
connections makes OpenSSL use more memory. The current best fix is
'then give it more memory'.

--Roger

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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-13 Thread Elrippo
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Which version of Tor are you running?




Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:
Hi all!
 From a quick search over my phone's internet I wasn't really able to
find a similar case so I ask this here:

Since a few days my Tor Exit Node keeps crashing. The logfile says
Sep 12 22:58:29.000 [warn] Your computer is too slow to handle this
many circuit creation requests! Please consider using the
MaxAdvertisedBandwidth config option or choosing a more restricted exit

policy. [27 similar message(s) suppressed in last 60 seconds]

But the CPU is never loaded more than 40% and RAM only up to 70%... So
whats up with that?

LG,
Sebastian

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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-13 Thread Sebastian Pfeifer

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Tor 0.2.3.25 on Debian

Am 13.09.2013 21:52, schrieb Elrippo:
 Which version of Tor are you running?




 Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:
  Hi all!
  From a quick search over my phone's internet I wasn't really able to
  find a similar case so I ask this here:

  Since a few days my Tor Exit Node keeps crashing. The logfile says
  Sep 12 22:58:29.000 [warn] Your computer is too slow to handle this
  many circuit creation requests! Please consider using the
  MaxAdvertisedBandwidth config option or choosing a more restricted exit

  policy. [27 similar message(s) suppressed in last 60 seconds]

  But the CPU is never loaded more than 40% and RAM only up to 70%... So
  whats up with that?

  LG,
  Sebastian

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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-13 Thread Michael Wolf
On 9/13/2013 4:19 PM, Sebastian Pfeifer wrote:
 
 Tor 0.2.3.25 on Debian
 

Your problem likely stems from the botnet that has been overwhelming the
network:

https://blog.torproject.org/blog/how-to-handle-millions-new-tor-clients

The solution would be to upgrade to Tor 0.2.4.17-rc, which prioritizes
NTor handshakes to counter this:

https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian#development



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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-13 Thread Elrippo
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Du solltest die repositories von Tor verwenden.
Bitte nutze die experimental [1] repo. Danach ein update und upgrade auf 
2.4.17-rc

[1] https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en





Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:

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Tor 0.2.3.25 on Debian

Am 13.09.2013 21:52, schrieb Elrippo:
 Which version of Tor are you running?




 Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:
  Hi all!
  From a quick search over my phone's internet I wasn't really able
to
  find a similar case so I ask this here:

  Since a few days my Tor Exit Node keeps crashing. The logfile says
  Sep 12 22:58:29.000 [warn] Your computer is too slow to handle
this
  many circuit creation requests! Please consider using the
  MaxAdvertisedBandwidth config option or choosing a more restricted
exit

  policy. [27 similar message(s) suppressed in last 60 seconds]

  But the CPU is never loaded more than 40% and RAM only up to 70%...
So
  whats up with that?

  LG,
  Sebastian

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Re: [tor-talk] Your computer is too slow...

2013-09-13 Thread Nathan Suchy
My node is overwhelmed but remaining stable at 20mbps up and down on tor.
It's only internally relaying currently though...


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Elrippo elri...@elrippoisland.net wrote:

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 Du solltest die repositories von Tor verwenden.
 Bitte nutze die experimental [1] repo. Danach ein update und upgrade auf
 2.4.17-rc

 [1] https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en





 Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:
 
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 Tor 0.2.3.25 on Debian
 
 Am 13.09.2013 21:52, schrieb Elrippo:
  Which version of Tor are you running?
 
 
 
 
  Sebastian Pfeifer sebast...@pfeifer.or.at schrieb:
   Hi all!
   From a quick search over my phone's internet I wasn't really able
 to
   find a similar case so I ask this here:
 
   Since a few days my Tor Exit Node keeps crashing. The logfile says
   Sep 12 22:58:29.000 [warn] Your computer is too slow to handle
 this
   many circuit creation requests! Please consider using the
   MaxAdvertisedBandwidth config option or choosing a more restricted
 exit
 
   policy. [27 similar message(s) suppressed in last 60 seconds]
 
   But the CPU is never loaded more than 40% and RAM only up to 70%...
 So
   whats up with that?
 
   LG,
   Sebastian
 
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