Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Browsing to mixers for the artist of a song
Thank you erland, the gui is taking a bit of getting used to after the SB3 text based interface. I'm also missing Lazy Search 2, I think I will end up using iPeng mainly to control the touch. I do like the album art display, it adds a bit more than scrolling text. -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73362 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
KMorgan;592748 Wrote: > Well my old Belkin Router and my new Belkin router don't even need a > single mouse click. By default the lease time is "Forever". Sounds > like your world is more complicated than it need be. > > Keith Agree, I'm on my third router, all from major brands (Zyxel, Netgear, Linksys), and all of them have easy support for DHCP Reservation. And DHCP is really fast too, it doesn't take 10 seconds to get an IP from DHCP (as claimed). On my squeezeboxes I can see the "Obtaining IP adress..." text for about 1-2 seconds, and keep in mind that this is only needed if the squeezebox has been powered off - So this is a non issue for me. -- Letten Duet -> Audioengine A5 Classic -> Sony surround reciever -> Jamo 5.1 Speakers / JBL 120Ti 2 Boom's 1 Radio SC 7.5.2 on Laptop running Windows 7 Linksys WRT54G wireless router Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Browsing to mixers for the artist of a song
Wirrunna;592775 Wrote:
> Did this ever get fixed ?
> (Just bought a Touch, still exploring how to use it - XP, Version:
> 7.6.0 - r31479 )
I don't think so.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Browsing to mixers for the artist of a song
Philip Meyer;501273 Wrote: > >My personal feeling is that hold-touch on an artist should always open > >the context menu independent on where you are standing, even if you > are > >standing on an artist item inside a context menu. > Totally agree. And only ever bring up the context menu with a > long-touch action, never single press. Single press should navigate > into the item (eg. touch artist to show albums by that artist, touch > album name to show songs on the album, long-touch to get actions for > the item). Did this ever get fixed ? (Just bought a Touch, still exploring how to use it - XP, Version: 7.6.0 - r31479 ) -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73362 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive
iPhone;576550 Wrote: > I can second the Toshiba drives as not giving me any issues. I have a > 320GB, a 500GB, a '640GB' > (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0316591), > and the new 'Canvio 1TB USB drive' > (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0330202) > all working well with Touch. By the way, for those like me trying to keeping track of all those Toshiba drives and all the technical details... Note that the specs on Toshiba web site are not very helpful, so those are my guesses... The original Toshiba external drives are still available in the usual places and are well tested with the Touch. The drive has a single wave on them. The largest 2 platter is 640GB, the 1T was a 3 platters design. The Canvio drives are also now well tested with the Touch and widely available. The drives have fairly large squares on them. It looks like the largest 2 platter is still 640GB (like the original Toshiba external drives), the 750GB and 1T seems to be 3 platters designs. However, I see that on the Toshiba web site there are new Canvio models, the Canvio 3.0 and Canvio Basics, those seems to already available in some places (but quite expensive). The 3.0 has very small squares on them, the basic seems all black. Obviously, those have not been tested with the Touch and I would like to have feedback on those before recommending them, hopefully Toshiba did not change the formula. The 3.0 is overkill for the Touch, as the Touch does not support USB 3.0, and I would worry about the encryption feature. For those drives, it looks like the largest 2 platters is 750GB and only the 1TB is 3 platters. Note that the number of bare/internal drives at 5400rpm on Toshiba web site is much more limited, so I'm assuming that most of those external drives use the same drive inside, and the only changes are the enclosure and the software... Good luck... Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81987 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
EricBergan;592718 Wrote: > > In my world, it's not a single mouse click in my router, it's cutting > and pasting the MAC address, etc. and plus having to re-enter them when > I upgrade the router firmware. Not terrible, but why should I have to do > it for something that I can do simply on my SB3? Why was it necessary to > remove that feature from the Touch - or was it just development team > lack of attention to detail? Well my old Belkin Router and my new Belkin router don't even need a single mouse click. By default the lease time is "Forever". Sounds like your world is more complicated than it need be. Keith -- KMorgan - Sorry, can't spare enough hours today for that 5 min job on the computer. KMorgan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and WD Elements 1 TB USB drive
jnathanson;592534 Wrote: > So... When using a Mac to format a hard drive exclusively for use with a > Touch, what format should I tell the Mac's Disc utility to use to > maximize the chance that things will work? My brother who is an experienced MAC fanboy asked me to partition his external drive with my Linux laptop, so it does not look like a trivial task. The issue you have is not the formatting, but the disk partitioning. Please don't confuse the two. As far as I am aware, the MAC tend create non standard partitions that give grief to other OS, whereas formating of FAT and FAT32 filesystems by the MAC has to be standard. Once I had partitioned the drive (which is very quick), my brother was able to format the partitions I had created to FAT32 and NTFS with his MAC without any troubles. Moreover, the initial issue you have looks like the drive playing tricks with the partition table. I hope you can find a friend with a Win32 or Linux box that can wipe out those hidden partitions. The alternative is to go for one of the recommended hard drive which will make your life much simpler. A simple search on the forums will reveal quite a lot of information, my favorite thread is still : http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81987 Regards, Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83630 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A touch remote?
Don't forget to have a look into SqueezePad as well, if you go for an iPad. -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83583 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A touch remote?
Thanks to you all for some very helpful advice. My Touch is visible from across the room but plumbed in, so moving it closer is not really an option. It looks as though I shall have to pluck up courage and take a bite of Apple. Thank you. -- Cholas Cholas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40960 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83583 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
Letten;592642 Wrote: > Because it's easier! > > Don't tell me assigning and maintaining true static IP adresses is > easier than loging into the router and checkmark the devices you want > to keep the same IP (reservation) - thats ONE click pr. device! doesn't > get any easier if you ask me. > > I maintain my point: > - DHCP is just fine for most users, > - DHCP reservation is just fine for most advanced users, > - True static IP's is for the IT specialist only. > > I use some DHCP reservation myself, but it's just a bad habbit. > Actually it originated from what I thought was Squeezbox problems (2 > years ago) but turned out to be a bad combination SBS on Windows Vista > and old router firmware (dropping connection at lease end) - so I > really didn't need to use DHCP reservation, it works just fine > without. > > It must be nice to live in a world where you know what everyone's problems are and the perfect solution... I've been doing network system software development for 30+ years, so I actually like to think I do understand some of the pros and cons of various approaches... In my world, it's not a single mouse click in my router, it's cutting and pasting the MAC address, etc. and plus having to re-enter them when I upgrade the router firmware. Not terrible, but why should I have to do it for something that I can do simply on my SB3? Why was it necessary to remove that feature from the Touch - or was it just development team lack of attention to detail? As I said, as for why I want to assign the addresses, I have devices, like the SBs, that have been known for instance to suddenly start spewing lots of broadcast packets or connecting to foreign sites, and it's nice to know what IP address is what so you can investigate. eric -- EricBergan EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Out of Stock at Logitech
jfo;591728 Wrote: > You could try here... > http://solutionsav.ca/slimdevices.html > > I bought mine from them since Logitech took forever to list them in > Canada. Good service and the price is competitive. I'm going to try SA/V now. I cancelled the order at Logitech on the phone with them but I have this strange feeling that it's still going to show up someday -- the ordering system is THAT bad! -- mbg mbg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83473 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
Mnyb;592690 Wrote: > > But there is no shortcut here even if you use DHCP and it works > flawlessly, to operate a home network you must learn some basics about > networking and learn something about how your router works and so on. > I don't think networking can be a totally transparent "just works" > thing ever, you must eventually learn something about it. > > For Many SB users this is the first time they really have a "network" > previously it only was the PC connected to a mystery box provided by > the ISP. And now it's time to network multiple clients and run a simple > server and -stream continuously- this puts higher demands than > websurfing with a laptop for example. It's can also be a learning curve > re firewalls now you suddenly sending out stuff. > Excellent post. Particularly the point above. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
Historically squeezeboxes DHCP implementation has been somewhat fragile . And many routers has bugs in this to, so DHCP -can fail- so a solution that don't use DHCP is -less likely to fail- . And you shave off some 10 seconds in reconnecting time as it does not have negotiate for an ip . That said things seems to have got better, Touch copes fine with dhcp too, and there is 3rd party router firmware to replace the stock fw that should sort out that end. But the overwhelmingly most common problems seems to be that some users have more than one DCHP running and other configuration mistakes. And the receiver for example have no gui so you cant figure whats going on . The Touch onnthe other hand can tell you whats going on. But there is no shortcut here even if you use DHCP and it works flawlessly, to operate a home network you must learn some basics about networking and learn something about how your router works and so on. I don't think networking can be a totally transparent "just works" thing ever, you must eventually learn something about it. For Many SB users this is the first time they really have a "network" previously it only was the PC connected to a mystery box provided by the ISP. And now it's time to network multiple clients and run a simple server and -stream continuously- this puts higher demands than websurfing with a laptop for example. It's can also be a learning curve re firewalls now you suddenly sending out stuff. I think the Squeeboxes get unnecessary trashing for this sometimes, you will get the same problems with other stuff that relies on you network such as it is to work. When I got my first SB3 i know absolutely nothing about networks and servers, but I learned, first i had no router then a hideous shoddy netgear router that i replaced with an WRT54GL running Tomato. Then I brigded my dsl modem (to avoid many problems including dual DHCP and dual NAT and dual port-forwarding problems) then I chucked dsl and got real networking instead. Also I think they should disable the TinySC server, it's very rarely meets customer expectations , It is good idea to try to market a standalone server imho Touch is not there it's simply to limited. I'm perfectly happy with that a standalone server should be somewhat limited, you cant compete with an 8 core server, but Touch aimed to low imho. For example everyone knows that bus powered USB drives cheats with the power specs, practically all of them, so to design the product to power USB exactly to spec but not much more is a recipe for predictable failure, this is not rocket science. And 128mB ram ? NAS boxes with that spec is routinely mocked on this forum ;) Maybe TinySC could be kept for USB stick only as a guest music playback system ? but refuse to mount harddrives or large libraries -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
toby10;592672 Wrote: > As a non techie user myself I certainly agree. The one catch is in > cases where the same device IP is needed but the router does not > support reserved IP's. > In the SB environment this then becomes a kludge to accomplish, > apparently. > > I have a single device that requires the same IP, a networked printer. > Using router reserved IP a single mouse click next to that devices > IP/MAC and my problem is solved. I think that most routers support DHCP reservation. Still Squeezeboxes work just fine without, they certainly don't require static IP's. I think that some users, when they have network problems, seek advice in these forums. Then other users, perhaps by mistake or because they don't know the difference between the two, advice them to try static IP's. When they should try and solve the underlying problem of their network and maybe also DHCP reservation - but certainly not static IP's. It's like all those regular users who get stuck trying to hack/install SBS on a NAS-devices because they don't know the first thing about unix - then they complain about Logitech making things complicated - What the hell are they thinking!? I ask, why make things complicated for yourself? -- Letten Duet -> Audioengine A5 Classic -> Sony surround reciever -> Jamo 5.1 Speakers / JBL 120Ti 2 Boom's 1 Radio SC 7.5.2 on Laptop running Windows 7 Linksys WRT54G wireless router Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch... reboot loop!
Blazer;592628 Wrote: > I'm not sure what yo mean. I was using the Touch (wireless) trough the > server software running on my desktop PC. Does that mean I was using My > Squeezebox? In the background, yes. My Radio was actually connected to MySB. If these are even related I don't know. Just seemed like a similar experience in a similar time frame. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83645 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
Letten;592642 Wrote: > Because it's easier! > ... > - DHCP is just fine for most users, > - DHCP reservation is just fine for most advanced users, > - True static IP's is for the IT specialist only. > .. As a non techie user myself I certainly agree. The one catch is in cases where the same device IP is needed but the router does not support reserved IP's. In the SB environment this then becomes a kludge to accomplish, apparently. I have a single device that requires the same IP, a networked printer. Using router reserved IP a single mouse click next to that devices IP/MAC and my problem is solved. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
toby10;592670 Wrote: > Luckily I've never had to mess with IP's for my SB players, but it sure > sounds like a PITA for those that need to do so. And even worse PITA for those that "think" they need to do so. But in reality they most propably have other network problems and they could have used DHCP or DHCP Reservation just fine. No wonder that Squeezeboxes get a reputation of being technically complicated to setup and run when people start messing with statis IP and/or try to install SBS on underpowered NAS's using an OS they are (often) completely unfamiliar with. -- Letten Duet -> Audioengine A5 Classic -> Sony surround reciever -> Jamo 5.1 Speakers / JBL 120Ti 2 Boom's 1 Radio SC 7.5.2 on Laptop running Windows 7 Linksys WRT54G wireless router Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch-fatigue
JJZolx;592593 Wrote: > I doubt that's true if the other end of ethernet cable isn't connected > to anything. Should be the same as having no cable at all. > > Same here, but it's crazy how stupid they've made the setup of > something so simple. LOL, sorry, I didn't word that correctly. As JohnSwenson corrected my poor choice of words to correctly say "..connect the other end to anything *BUT* a router..", this is indeed a much clearer way to state it. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 'local service stopped' error message: related to USB power or album art?
This morning, after restarting the touch from standby, the connection to the USB drive was lost. I had to eject the drive (which tooks some tries as it was 'in use' according to the Touch). I'm now in the process of moving my collection to a different, powered, USB drive (WD Elements 500 GB), to rule out power shortage as cause of the errors. In the meantime, I'm running the server from a desktop-PC which works flawlessly. nthx, I agree that some more details in the error messages would make problem-solving easier. I guess that right now, the 'local service stopped' message can be caused by various causes. -- Ronnus Ronnus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41824 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
