[SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?
...and getting good if not better results? I ask this after reading an interesting article about the importance of ripping your music from CDs (if you take that approach). Picking out this particular sentence from the article: There's a huge difference between a CD ripped by a home computer and one ripped through a professional system - leads on to imply that when using your home PC to rip your CD's, the quality will not be as good as the original CD itself which could be alarming news for audiophiles if they were unaware of this issue. The article is here: http://www.ecoustics.com/tl/21081/ OK, if you are using the SBT for the convenience then this does not really apply to you. However if you are an audiophile after high quality SQ then this certainly does apply to you!! I personally always wondered why a CD player should sound better than an SBT, because an SBT does not have any moving parts or spinning disks to worry about. But if you don't take the greatest of care when it comes to ripping your music then your hi-end CD player or Transport will always be the SQ king (even though not quite so convenient) it would appear. stop-spinning's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43254 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97019 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?
There is no substantiation or any data used in the article to support the statement that Theres a huge difference between a CD ripped by a home computer and one ripped through a professional system. If you: 1. Rip to a lossless format, FLAC, ALAC, APE, WMA-Lossless, etc.; and 2. Use a program which will insure your rip is accurate, e.g. http://www.exactaudiocopy.org/ http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm the rip will be identical to the information on the original CD. This does not require a professional system, whatever that means. There is a clue as to why the unsubstantiated statement was made. The author is president and co-founder of a company which charges customers to rip their CD's for them. This is from the company's website: -RipDigital's default configuration for converting your CD collection is 192 kbps MP3, while most player software packages claim 128 kbps to be CD quality. The higher bit-rate at which RipDigital encodes guarantees you even better sound quality than you would experience using CD quality on the most popular players. That said, virtually all encoding technologies compress your music. Though indistinguishable to even the most tuned ears, the technical truth is that encoded music is not exactly the same as the original.- I'll pass on the professional system ripping my collection to 192 kbps MP3 files and will stick with my FLAC rips using Exact Audio Copy. Jeff52's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=103 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97019 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?
The trick to getting professional CD rips is to use the appropriate pen prior to ripping. Every audiophile knows that! :) http://www.elusivedisc.com/AUDIOPRISM-CD-STOPLIGHT-PEN/productinfo/AP-CDSL/ toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97019 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?
Yes an EAC or dBp rip with accurate rip is as good as it gets . But even if don't do that most CD's rip problem free in a more humble ripper unless you used your CD's as drink coasters, in my case I'd say that most of my disc are scratch free. Rip to lossles flac and use a Touch as player you get the same result or in some cases better than any transport . IMO I have no problem using a squeezebox as high end transport . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97019 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple way to control and view SBT screen from my listening position.
and in case you haven't found it, squeezeplay is here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/ And as an extra, in addition to using squeezeplay to control your touch, SqueezePlay also turns the computer running it into a Player as well. (You just have to choose player and choose the Squeezeplay program as player rather than the TOUCH. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97005 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot reach SBTouch through browser
sroux, welcome to the unhelpful world of the Touch. Well, the people here are great, the Touch isn't. FWIW, Logitech have been having serious problems. I think the U.S. ones are now OK (I recognise your name) but in the UK mysqueezebox.com is up and down like, well, I'd better not say! I shall post separately on this. ITM, best of luck fighting this hugely flawed piece of... Mardler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56487 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97003 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playing Music from Android Device (e.g. Samsung Galaxy SIII, Note II)
The Samsung android phones/tablets such as those you mention generally have AllShare installed. These are UPNP/DLNA servers which should be able to share music from your phone. I think you should be able to play music from these AllShare but can't remember how. Will check this weekend and get back to you. lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96947 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] mysqueezebox.com problems (UK)
There are serious problems with mysqueezebox.com in the UK since yesterday. Please see this thread:- http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/mysqueezebox/m-p/911844#M7663 Basically, it was down most of last night and is intermittent today. Given that a fundamental facility of the Touch (SBT) is that, once set up, it can operate without a PC, this is a serious breach of (UK) Sale of Goods law. The residual problem I now have is that, whilst my SBT can now see Favourites and Apps Gallery (via mysqueezebox.com when it's up) the Player page in the PC browser still shows my SBT as Not Connected. Any of you excellent bods know:- 1. Why my SBT is accessing MySb.com but it shows disconnected? 2. Is (1) important? 3. Whether the password in LMS/Settings should go blank after setting it (seems reasonable). 4. When this mess (Logitech's lousy support for MySB.com) will end? TIA Mardler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56487 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple way to control and view SBT screen from my listening position.
If you do choose to use a laptop/notebook/etc to control your Touch you can access the LMS Web Control on your main PC from the laptop by pointing your laptop browser at: http://999.999.999.999:9000/ where 999.999.999.999 is the IP address of your main PC that runs LMS. Substitute your own IP address. For example, I use: http://192.168.1.20:9000/ on my main PC to access the LMS Web Control on my Ubuntu server. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97005 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple way to control and view SBT screen from my listening position.
garym wrote: and in case you haven't found it, squeezeplay is here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/ And as an extra, in addition to using squeezeplay to control your touch, SqueezePlay also turns the computer running it into a Player as well. (You just have to choose player and choose the Squeezeplay program as player rather than the TOUCH. Yes I found it. Tks sportflyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97005 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch: Listening to radio without mysqueezebox.com
Now THAT, Supertramp, is very interesting. Would you care to provide a step by step guide? E.g. m3u? Mardler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56487 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96597 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple way to control and view SBT screen from my listening position.
JohnB wrote: If you do choose to use a laptop/notebook/etc to control your Touch you can access the LMS Web Control on your main PC from the laptop by pointing your laptop browser at: http://999.999.999.999:9000/ where 999.999.999.999 is the IP address of your main PC that runs LMS. Substitute your own IP address. For example, I use: http://192.168.1.20:9000/ on my main PC to access the LMS Web Control on my Ubuntu server. can't recall if he's using LMS on a PC or tinyLMS inside the TOUCH, or even simply connecting the TOUCH directly to mysqueezebox.com with no local LMS. The above instructions only work if you are using LMS running on your local PC and NOT for tinyLMS on the touch or direct connection to mysb.com. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97005 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple way to control and view SBT screen from my listening position.
Thanks, you are absolutely right of course. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97005 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playing Music from Android Device (e.g. Samsung Galaxy SIII, Note II)
The perfect solution wood be a stand alone LMS for android Would It be possible to have a Logitech Media Server for android ?? Here are a view projects that look really good Its a Logitech Media Server for Raspberry Pi and Synology NAS: - http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=6803 - http://www.squeezeplug.de/ - http://www.synology-forum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=82t=2102 Maybe an android developer could turn this into a LMS for droid So many android devices these days I personally would have a use for this on my android UG802 HDMI stick running 24/7 with USB HDD attached to it But I can imagine a whole lot off possibilities Turn your old android phone Into a Logitech Media Server and you have a power efficient music server gadus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57813 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96947 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch going off whilst playing
Hi, My touch is now going off in the middle of playing a song for no specific reason. Any suggestions? Maybe I changed some settings in powersave mode.. Rgds Vinod vinodt1347's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97032 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Commands
Hi Is there a definitive list of Linux commands that are supported on the Touch following SSHing into it? TVM Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97034 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch not working
Yes that was what I thought until they emailed me claiming they are unable to replace my SB (even though they are still selling them on Amazon!). Anyway I have had a refund, not bad considering I bought a another replacement. So I am a few pounds up on the deal! Just had it installed yesterday when this problem with the SB Euro started today...Ughhh! Nickcope's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57691 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96854 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?
I feel even the worst RIP quality could at most produce a few milliseconds of distortions, and rarely at that. If you use the tools and CD ripping discussed above, you will be more than fine. The reduced jitter of the SBT compared to many CD players, coupled with common jitter reduction built into most modern DACs, is what makes a difference. I am quite happy with the SBT as a high-end music front-end. jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97019 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playing Music from Android Device (e.g. Samsung Galaxy SIII, Note II)
lrossouw wrote: The Samsung android phones/tablets such as those you mention generally have AllShare installed. These are UPNP/DLNA servers which should be able to share music from your phone. I think you should be able to play music from these AllShare but can't remember how. Will check this weekend and get back to you. That would be great! Thank you! Also a big Thanks to gadus! What I found out in the meantime is that with BubbleUPnP for Android and http://www.avm.de/de/Produkte/FRITZ_WLAN/FRITZ_WLAN_Repeater_NG/index.php which has a UPnP-renderer feature it should be possible to play music. The BubbleUPnP app has the built in feature to add an equalizer app to it. I'll give it a shot next week, as soon as I have the Note II Cavcalade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57757 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96947 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?
Many old high end transports is also operating in real time they read continiusly at 1x and only once so read errors will appear more often that on a computer any old pc can beat that with the proper ripping . Good ripping software re reads iffy parts and try several times to get the data . There is also some hybrid solutions , the MeridianG98DH DVDA player is used for CD's before I got a squeezebox actually use a computer drive and some tricks to read ahead and do it multiple times , so it is essentially ripping a disc as it plays them. There really isno point in an elaborate mechanical design at 10k$ to make this real time cd read perfect when you can if allowed some memory buffer do it for 10$ . And actually the computer evolution has served us very well here , if a computer drive had severe read error people would have problem installing software etc. and computer stuff has been lower the prices all the time . So even the cheapest drive today is an amazing piece of technology . Imagine what a computer would cost if it where designed by a high end audio company and the electricity bill to go with that :) And all the tubes you had to change... Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97019 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch not working
Nickcope wrote: Yes that was what I thought until they emailed me claiming they are unable to replace my SB (even though they are still selling them on Amazon!). Anyway I have had a refund, not bad considering I bought a another replacement. So I am a few pounds up on the deal! Just had it installed yesterday when this problem with the SB Euro started today...Ughhh! Install the local server and give it some workout with some off your own files . I'm deep down in my collection now this radio free Friday :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96854 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
garym wrote: I'd personally recommend that you stay away from Computer Audiophile. I've seen some very stupid and plainly wrong stuff there. Have to agree with that recommendation. Confused Audiophool has a lot of opinions, but very little actual knowledge. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] mysqueezebox.com problems (UK)
No comments? Anybody? mysqueezebox.com still down. Mardler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56487 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple way to control and view SBT screen from my listening position.
garym wrote: can't recall if he's using LMS on a PC or tinyLMS inside the TOUCH, or even simply connecting the TOUCH directly to mysqueezebox.com with no local LMS. The above instructions only work if you are using LMS running on your local PC and NOT for tinyLMS on the touch or direct connection to mysb.com. I am running LMS on the PC that stores my Music files . So pointing the laptop to http:\\ xxx.xxx.x.xxx:9000 will do the job? Tks sportflyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97005 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
lake_eleven wrote: I updated touch to 7.8. Installed TT 3.0, installed EDO. I use HRT II+ USB DAC with hub. I am getting clicks and pops. Commented the priority line in rcs.local file as suggested by John Swenson. Still I get the clicks. Any suggestions?. Any clicks without TT3.0? EDO is really designed to work without it, so can you confirm this works? Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple way to control and view SBT screen from my listening position.
sportflyer wrote: I am running LMS on the PC that stores my Music files . So pointing the laptop to http:\\ xxx.xxx.x.xxx:9000 will do the job? Tks Yes garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97005 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Commands
The following command will display everything in $PATH which is where all executable files are located. ls `echo $PATH | sed 's/:/ /g' ` Unfortunately it lists about 2000 files. ls /bin is probably closer to what you're thinking of - only 133 files. Have fun browsing, Kim On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Waldo Pepper waldo.pepper.5le...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Hi Is there a definitive list of Linux commands that are supported on the Touch following SSHing into it? TVM Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97034 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
With only EDO there is no clicks or pops. When combining EDO and TT 3.0 is when the clicks come in. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
lake_eleven wrote: With only EDO there is no clicks or pops. When combining EDO and TT 3.0 is when the clicks come in. Suggest using with EDO only then ;-) Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] mysqueezebox.com problems (UK)
Ah that's why I couldn't connect this evening (well, once only, then it died). jezbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
