Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
... buffering is happening on the Touch itself. artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Yikes, this is funny, I did not realize how ambiguous my comment was. Computer connected to internet via wifi. Touch connected also via wifi. By "radio" I mean the radio function on the Touch. Some stations play nicely, others though I just get a "teststream" notification. I have now unchecked the "use itunes" box in Library, which I think is what you were suggesting. Just did a rescan and yes I point it to the itunes media folder which contains the music folder among other folders. The rescan happens oddly quickly. 30856 +---+ |Filename: Screen Shot 2020-06-27 at 8.27.20 PM.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30856| +---+ artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
8 vs 7.9.3 not likely the issue with rebuffering. Provide more detail. Where are your files located? how attached to Mac. Wired vs Wifi. and you mention radio, but before you talked about Touch players. Playing local files or streaming? *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Radio seems to work ok, nicely actually, but when I try to play music from my iTunes database on Mac via LMS, it keeps rebuffering. Running 7.9.3 thinking it sounds more stable than 8 right now, but, willing to try 8 if you think that might help. 2015 MacBook Pro 13" 16gig I7 running 10.15.5 (latest MacOS). I did a "rescan". Is there a clear solution here or a matter of debugging? I assume the wifi connection is ok since the radio plays quite well. Thank you. Art artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Daverz wrote: > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, > but looks like that was launched back in 2012, so you may know about > that already. > > The Touch is still pretty capable with the EDO app installed. I still > use mine for my headphone system. I use an RPi4 (headless) running > piCorePlayer for my speaker system. > > For me, the biggest changes in LMS were: > > * LMS 7.9 including a Composer menu. > * Qobuz > * Material Skin, finally a decent web interface > * Music & Artist Info (I can read all those PDFs in my music folders) I'd say it is very capable even without the EDO applet.:rolleyes: (in case the OP doesn't know, the EDO applet will allow the Touch to play 24/192 files (normally limited to 24/96 files). EDO will also allow the one to connect the Touch to the USB input of a DAC. (full disclosure, I've not used the EDO applet on my Touch players.) *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > What's the current situation with Squeezebox Touch and LMS? Would any > of you be willing to give me a short summary? I've been out of touch > with this community since 2012! > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, but looks like that was launched back in 2012, so you may know about that already. The Touch is still pretty capable with the EDO app installed. I still use mine for my headphone system. I use an RPi4 (headless) running piCorePlayer for my speaker system. For me, the biggest changes in LMS were: * LMS 7.9 including a Composer menu. * Qobuz * Material Skin, finally a decent web interface * Music & Artist Info (I can read all those PDFs in my music folders) Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so > pleasantly surprised! > > More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer > versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get > involved with beta's just yet because I'm not familiar with how things > are supposed to work, so the risk of bugs is just too much for me. > > Thanks so much. > Art I've thought about moving to 8, but I'm mostly running 7.9.3, and it does everything I want. So good enough for now (for me) *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I must mention that LMS8 is the latest and greatest, of course, but it's far from finalized. It's stable as of today, but this could change at any time. If you want to take the risk, I'd suggest you check the status before updates. I'm going to announce bigger changes when they hit LMS8 nightlies. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so > pleasantly surprised! > > More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer > versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get > involved with beta's just yet because I'm not familiar with how things > are supposed to work, so the risk of bugs is just too much for me. > > Thanks so much. > Art Go for 8. TimT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22971 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so pleasantly surprised! More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get involved with beta's just yet because I'm not familiar with how things are supposed to work, so the risk of bugs is just too much for me. Thanks so much. Art artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
I'll just add that the Touch remains a very competitive device for the purposes you've described. It's DAC is fine for direct output to a set of small powered speakers, and if connected to an external DAC it is completely up to the demands of a great system. The Raspberry Pi solutions come into play if you want to add a zone, or if a Touch stops working; their sound quality is as good or better than the Touch. For me, the big improvement of the past eight years has been the convenience of using mobile devices as control points. There are apps for Android and iOS that duplicate the library and control functionality of LMS. There also is now, as mentioned, a contemporary "Material Skin" installable via plugin that looks great on desktop or in mobile browser. There is nothing I need from Squeezebox that it can't do. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > QUESTION: what's changed other than Logitech obviously dropping support. > Per the forums, it looks like there is a huge community continuing to > update the software and loving these units. Does the old functionality > still exist? New functionality? Should I be running a newer LMS (and > why?)? I see some references to Tidal, is that a thing on the Touch? Significant change in development - development is done by community, no big release backed up by big testing team, lots of continuous updates with feedback on bugs from community. 8.0 is latest version which has most development. 7.9.3 only gets essential support. Most new development are driven external internet services - Spotify, Tidal, Deezer etc and huge variety of streaming live and on-demand and podcast services. New service often require new support of internet standards such as security https with TLS 1.3 and so latest version of LMS has latest support. There is support via plugins for playing via Airplay, Chromecast and uPNP devices. RPI based players have choice of an array of "hats" with DACs of varying quality. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
1. In many ways the squeezebox/LMS ecosystem has never been stronger. The rPi revolution (and piCorePlayer), among others, has solved the discontinuation of the hardware. The usergroups at this forum are doing amazing work. 2. LMS can allow one to play spotify, tidal, and Quobuz streaming services. 3. You should run either LMS 7.9.3 or LMS 8.0 http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9 http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=8.0 4. You can point the LMS music library to wherever you have your itunes music files stored, and LMS will scan this location and make those files available to use. no need for any special "use itunes xml file" etc. 5. Load up LMS, set it up. fire up your Touch players and have fun. As you can see from my signature, I'm still using my Squeezebox players with great results. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
What's the current situation with Squeezebox Touch and LMS? Would any of you be willing to give me a short summary? I've been out of touch with this community since 2012! I used to use my pair of Squeezebox Touch's relentlessly until mid-2012 when I moved from a large home in California to a smaller apartment in Manhattan. They have been gathering dust in closet ever since. Last week I cleaned them up and plugged them in and they look like they will work fine. LMS version 7.7.6 downloaded and runs on my MacBook pro with Catalina, v10.5.5 though I've yet to try to play music. QUESTION: what's changed other than Logitech obviously dropping support. Per the forums, it looks like there is a huge community continuing to update the software and loving these units. Does the old functionality still exist? New functionality? Should I be running a newer LMS (and why?)? I see some references to Tidal, is that a thing on the Touch? I used to use them to play the iTunes music database on my Mac. One Touch in the bedroom powering Audioengine 5's, sounded great. The other in my high end tube audio system, using a high end DAC, and it was glorious; always better than Bluetooth music because wifi has better bandwidth, I believe. The Touch's units would synchronize perfectly. But today iTunes has been replaced with "Music". Implications? Would any of you kindly update me on the current situation, and/or point me to forum entry(s) that do this? I have searched and not found it. Thank you very much. Art Altman artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
