Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Input question

2021-07-01 Thread M-dB


Bonjour all, having a small family emergency and will return in a day or
two. 

Thank you so much for your time and suggestions.   

M



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Input question

2021-07-01 Thread garym


Just adding my 2 cents to the OP's question (and confirming all the
other advice).  Yes, one must be running LMS somewhere to use the Touch.
It is not a player that one simply directly connects to a computer.  It
is a "network streamer".  LMS manages the local music files, or internet
radio streams, or services such as Pandora, Spotify, Tidal, etc.  LMS
then STREAMS the content to players on the same network (like the
Touch).  LMS can run on a Mac, Windows, Linux, etc. that's on the same
network as the Touch. Others are recommending running LMS on an
raspberry Pi instead of the Mac.  I agree. I run LMS on an rPi4B running
piCorePlayer.  This setup includes LMS.  And I then use a TOUCH (or
other squeezebox players) for the actual network attached players.



*Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000
*The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS &
Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin,
or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
*Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes,
TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Input question

2021-07-01 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> I'm a bit immersed, each day, dans Le Grande Boucle :):)
> 
> 

Hi Ronnie, ah, yes, that time of year again! Enjoy all of the pedal
rotations! ;):D

I have a friend who is an amateur cycle competitor, so he is glued to
the tube, me, it's the NHL Hockey playoffs! But, I think the cyclists
are crazier :eek:

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Input question

2021-07-01 Thread Man in a van


Hey Jim :)

> Ronnie, I am curious though, why would you not suggest just using the 
> picore as a LMS server, and the touch as a player? Is there something I 
> am missing (said the guy who uses a touch as a player)?

Mostly because I was eating my porridge and don't know enough about the
OP's user case. 
Also there are a lot of permutations that are too much for "a bear of
little brain" :p and maybe I forgot to add the word 'controller' in 
there somewhere :rolleyes:

> 
> Also, I am wondering what the thought is for music library storage, a
> network location, or local drive? 

Again, not enough info and I'm a bit immersed, each day, dans Le Grande
Boucle :):)

Keep safe

ronnnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Input question

2021-07-01 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> @M-DB
> 
> I will make the assumption (not a good thing to do:() that you use
> iTunes for your music file playback and mysqueezebox.com for streaming
> from the internet ?
> 
> The Metrum  dac
> 
> 
> 
> so there is not much benefit to be gained from installing the EDO applet
> on the SBTouch.
> 
> Likewise your Mac-mini is restricted to High Sierra, and frankly,
> installing LogitechMediaServer on the Mac-mini is too much of a hassle.
> 
> My suggestion is that you purchase a raspberry pi 3b+ or 4b (2g) with
> the official rpi foundation power supply  and a  good quality (see
> Sandisk) micro sd card.
> 
> If you buy new, then do so from a seller approved by the Raspberry Pi
> Foundation.
> 
> There are daughter boards for the raspberrypi called HATS. Some of these
> have SPDIF (co-ax and Toslink) outputs. 
> 
> Raspberry pi and HATS are sometimes available second-hand from furum
> members upgrading.
> 
> Install LMS on the raspberry pi using the piCorePlayer OS and also
> utilise the raspberry pi as the player (with attached HAT) and plug the
> preferred output into the Metrum dac.
> 
> Connect the rasperry pi to the network via Ethernet
> 
> Use the SBTouch to control the player output from the raspberry pi (with
> your Mac-mini running) you will be able to access the iTunes music
> files. 
> 
> This will not provide any great change in sound quality but will enhance
> your user experience and prove a relatively low cost introduction to
> "digital options"
> 
> There is a learning curve :):), but plenty of support is availble from
> the members here
> 
> Please let us know your approximate location, there may be someone close
> who can offer a trial unit or invite you to a demo.
> 
> Don't rush; have a think about how you want to proceed and do some
> research :p.
> 
> atb
> 
> ronnie

+1

@M-dB, what Ronnie is suggesting sounds daunting at first, but is quite
easy and inexpensive. If you decide to go this route there are alot of
"get started" threads which address "how to's" for the new to the game.
Also, "official" picoreplayer instructions.

There are alot of benefits to what he is suggesting, ease, stability,
24/7 operation, low power consumption, and a very large user
base/support. I ditched running LMS on a Windows machine years ago.

Ronnie, I am curious though, why would you not suggest just using the
picore as a LMS server, and the touch as a player? Is there something I
am missing (said the guy who uses a touch as a player)?

Also, I am wondering what the thought is for music library storage, a
network location, or local drive? 

@M-db, you say that you "don't know what LMS is..." It is a music
"server" the source that provides (to a player) either your own music
library (downloads, ripped albums/cd's), internet radio stations, and/or
music services (spotify, tidal, etc). You interface/control your
"player" (touch, or as Ronnie suggested a rpi with a hat) to access LMS,
and stream the requested media (music, track info, etc).

Further, there are just "controllers" (phone/pad apps, URL's, etc) which
are your user interface. One of many many nice things about squeezebox
devices (like your touch) is they are both players and controllers, and,
can control other players. That is what Ronnie was suggesting to control
the pi with hat. The pi with hat on it's own does not have a user
interface to act as a controller (but one could be added, or use a
phone/pad/desktop)

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Input question

2021-07-01 Thread Man in a van


@M-DB

I will make the assumption (not a good thing to do:() that you use
iTunes for your music file playback and mysqueezebox.com for streaming
from the internet ?

The Metrum  dac

>  75Ω coaxial input is limited to a maximum data sample rate of
> 176.4kHz, the Toshiba optical link limits at 96kHz

so there is not much benefit to be gained from installing the EDO applet
on the SBTouch.

Likewise your Mac-mini is restricted to High Sierra, and frankly,
installing LogitechMediaServer on the Mac-mini is too much of a hassle.

My suggestion is that you purchase a raspberry pi 3b+ or 4b (2g) with
the official rpi foundation power supply  and a  good quality (see
Sandisk) micro sd card.

If you buy new, then do so from a seller approved by the Raspberry Pi
Foundation.

There are daughter boards for the raspberrypi called HATS. Some of these
have SPDIF (co-ax and Toslink) outputs. 

Raspberry pi and HATS are sometimes available second-hand from furum
members upgrading.

Install LMS on the raspberry pi using the piCorePlayer OS and also
utilise the raspberry pi as the player (with attached HAT) and plug the
preferred output into the Metrum dac.

Connect the rasperry pi to the network via Ethernet

Use the SBTouch to control the player output from the raspberry pi (with
your Mac-mini running) you will be able to access the iTunes music
files. 

This will not provide any great change in sound quality but will enhance
your user experience and prove a relatively low cost introduction to
"digital options"

There is a learning curve :):), but plenty of support is availble from
the members here

Please let us know your approximate location, there may be someone close
who can offer a trial unit or invite you to a demo.

Don't rush; have a think about how you want to proceed and do some
research :p.

atb

ronnie



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