Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread zoleprole


Yes, you completely understood me.
I'll buy Raspberry Pi only for LMS,
is it necessary Pi 4 with 4 gb RAM or something cheaper ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread Redrum


garym wrote: 
> I had forgotten he was using the "tiny LMS" built into the TOUCH.  Yes
> that's mostly a disaster.  You'll be VERY happy with the TOUCH as a
> player and LMS running on your rPi4.  And you don't need a HAT, because
> your rPi won't be attached to the DAC. It will just run LMS.  The DAC
> will connect to the TOUCH via optical or coax.

@zoleprole - this is exactly what I am doing with two systems I use and
others I have built for friends - use the RPI as a LMS server only. It's
a relatively cheap investment - pi 3b+ or 4, power supply, sd card -
<$50USD. Case if you want

Of course you can also have the pi be a "player" also, but I still like
using my players = touch, radio, boom (and also Philippe's squeezeamp).


I setup a friend originally with a touch running "tiny LMS" with his
library on a usb jump drive, and while it worked, it crashed and became
very limited (no Radio Paradise FLAC, no https which many radio stations
and moving toward, etc.). So I just put together a pi for him as a
server only, installed it, and said "you owe me $50". :)

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread P Nelson


If you are looking for a simple solution to running LMS, there is
CORE32.  https://polyvection.com/en/product/core32/.
CORE32 will run LMS and talk to the Touch over your network (WiFI or
ethernet).  I have not used CORE32, but from reading the forum, it is
supposed to be more plug and play solution.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread garym


I had forgotten he was using the "tiny LMS" built into the TOUCH.  Yes
that's mostly a disaster.  You'll be VERY happy with the TOUCH as a
player and LMS running on your rPi4.  And you don't need a HAT, because
your rPi won't be attached to the DAC. It will just run LMS.  The DAC
will connect to the TOUCH via optical or coax.



*Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000
*The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS &
Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin,
or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
*Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread Redrum


garym wrote: 
> And I suspect your TOUCH is fine as player. first I'd add LMS to rPi4
> and use with TOUCH and see how that works. That's what Jeff was
> suggesting.

agree with Gary and Jeff. The probable reason that the Touch "got on
your nerves" is because you were running "tiny LMS" (built into the
touch). You can crash "tiny" if you ask it to do too much, and it hasn't
been supported or upgraded in years. I'm betting when you get a much
more powerful and supported LMS your love for your touch will
return

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread garym


And I suspect your TOUCH is fine as player. first I'd add LMS to rPi4
and use with TOUCH and see how that works. That's what Jeff was
suggesting.



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(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000
*The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS &
Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin,
or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
*Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes,
TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread garym


zoleprole wrote: 
> Is not correct, I can not conect RPi4 and my DAC without Allo DigiOne,
> am I right?
> Now understand what Jeff07971 advises me.

Does your DAC have a USB input. If so, you can connect to the USB on
your rPi4. Otherwise you'll need some sort of HAT (the Allo is just one
of many).



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(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000
*The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS &
Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin,
or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
*Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes,
TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread zoleprole


Is not correct, I can not conect RPi4 and my DAC without Allo DigiOne,
am I right?
Now understand what Jeff07971 advises me.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread garym


zoleprole wrote: 
> I have DAC, and I don't need 2 players, and my ST sometimes  getting on
> my nerves.
> OK, I I need to buy RPi4 with 4 Gb RAM, some box, touch screen if I want
> to , power supply, sd card and that is all?
> Put my hard disk with music in usb on RPi4 and I listen to music .

correct. Put piCorePlayer on the SD card and you're in business.  See:
https://www.picoreplayer.org/



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(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000
*The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS &
Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin,
or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
*Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes,
TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread zoleprole


I have DAC, and I don't need 2 players, and my ST sometimes  getting on
my nerves.
OK, I I need to buy RPi4 with 4 Gb RAM, some box, touch screen if I want
to , power supply, sd card and that is all?
Put my hard disk with music in usb on RPi4 and I listen to music .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread Jeff07971


zoleprole wrote: 
> OK, I understend, you suggest me replace my ST to Raspberry Pi 4.
> I will do that.
> For Raspberry Pi 4 it is not necessary separate computer, LMS install on
> SD card Raspberry Pi 4, right?

You can replace the ST with a RPi4 but do not have to.

You need the RPi to run LMS v8.2.1 ( The latest stable) as the ST
cannot
You can still use your Touch as the PLAYER and the RPi 4 running LMS is
the SERVER which handles the transcoding etc for your FLAC streams.
To begin you just need to burn a pCP (PicorePlayer) SDCard and put in
RPi

Later you can add a Dac HAT to the Rpi4 to have ANOTHER player if you
wish it is not REQUIRED

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread Paul Webster


Correct (if by computer you mean a computer that is not a Raspberry Pi
computer).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread zoleprole


OK, I understend, you suggest me replace my ST to Raspberry Pi 4.
I will do that.
For Raspberry Pi 4 it is not necessary separate computer, LMS install on
SD card Raspberry Pi 4, right?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread Jeff07971


zoleprole wrote: 
> And computer must be always turn on?

Needs to be on and booted before you can play from it yes.

A Raspberry Pi 4 makes a good and well supported LMS server using
PicorePlayer
You can leave this on 24/7 as its low powered 5W or so


https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114828-Announce-piCorePlayer-8-0-0&p=1027389&viewfull=1#post1027389

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread zoleprole


And computer must be always turn on?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread mrw


zoleprole wrote: 
> Where I install LMS , on hard disk which I put in ST or separate
> computer like laptop?

On a separate computer.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS

2021-09-13 Thread zoleprole


Where I install LMS , on hard disk which I put in ST or separate
computer like laptop?



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